D******8 发帖数: 114 | 1 Expecting an offer from a financial company in San Francisco. The
position is IT. The base is $120K plus 20K to 40K year end bonus. No
sign on bonus. How is the offer? I have about 10 years experience in
IT.
I am also thinking for finding a position instead in a potential Pre-
IPO startup with stock options. Do you think that is a better choice?
Your input will be very appreciated!!!
P.S. I can only type Chinese very slowly (less than 5 characters per
min). So please bear with my poor English. |
s*******e 发帖数: 4188 | 2 什么position?
schwab? barclays? |
q**j 发帖数: 10612 | 3 从金融跳回it容易么?如果容易就上,否则三思。
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Expecting an offer from a financial company in San Francisco. The : position is IT. The base is $120K plus 20K to 40K year end bonus. No : sign on bonus. How is the offer? I have about 10 years experience in : IT. : I am also thinking for finding a position instead in a potential Pre- : IPO startup with stock options. Do you think that is a better choice? : Your input will be very appreciated!!! : P.S. I can only type Chinese very slowly (less than 5 characters per : min). So please bear with my poor English.
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i***1 发帖数: 2534 | 4 没有跳吧,一直都是it
【在 q**j 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从金融跳回it容易么?如果容易就上,否则三思。
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q**j 发帖数: 10612 | 5 给将来打算。
【在 i***1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没有跳吧,一直都是it
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 6 Thanks for all the inputs so far.
I will be still in IT. Just the company will be a financial company. The
position is not related to finance. Financial knowledge is not required. |
D******8 发帖数: 114 | 7 IT Software Developer
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 什么position? : schwab? barclays?
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c***d 发帖数: 996 | 8 how many years of experience?
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks for all the inputs so far. : I will be still in IT. Just the company will be a financial company. The : position is not related to finance. Financial knowledge is not required.
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c***d 发帖数: 996 | 9 the pay itself is so so. career outlook is much more important..
as for startup thingy, this year i think it is record-breaking(since dot-com
era) in term of seeding and serie-a activities in the valley.. so.. well.
what do i know.
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Expecting an offer from a financial company in San Francisco. The : position is IT. The base is $120K plus 20K to 40K year end bonus. No : sign on bonus. How is the offer? I have about 10 years experience in : IT. : I am also thinking for finding a position instead in a potential Pre- : IPO startup with stock options. Do you think that is a better choice? : Your input will be very appreciated!!! : P.S. I can only type Chinese very slowly (less than 5 characters per : min). So please bear with my poor English.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 10 Are you talking about me or the job requirement?
I have 10. The job only requires 3+ yrs.
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : how many years of experience?
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 11 What are serie-a activities? Something like the company is in its initial
phrase?
My current pay is only about $115K with ESPP and without bonus. No stock
option either.
Should I jump? :)
com
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the pay itself is so so. career outlook is much more important.. : as for startup thingy, this year i think it is record-breaking(since dot-com : era) in term of seeding and serie-a activities in the valley.. so.. well. : what do i know.
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c***d 发帖数: 996 | 12 money wise i donot see much of difference - depending on where you are and
state tax etc. usually people expect 20% raise to jump. so if pure for money
reason, no.
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What are serie-a activities? Something like the company is in its initial : phrase? : My current pay is only about $115K with ESPP and without bonus. No stock : option either. : Should I jump? :) : : com
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q**j 发帖数: 10612 | 13 then look distance from home and coworks. pick the overall more pleasant
place.
money
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : money wise i donot see much of difference - depending on where you are and : state tax etc. usually people expect 20% raise to jump. so if pure for money : reason, no.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 14 The new company is two blocks away from my current company. In other words,
I am already working in SF.
money
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : money wise i donot see much of difference - depending on where you are and : state tax etc. usually people expect 20% raise to jump. so if pure for money : reason, no.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 15 It might be more pleasant to work in the current company in terms of
management and co-workers. They do not push me hard. Only one annoying
thing is that I have to take support calls in the middle of nights. On
average about one or two calls per week. Very disruptive to sleep.
【在 q**j 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then look distance from home and coworks. pick the overall more pleasant : place. : : money
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y*****s 发帖数: 1841 | 16 IT不都是on call么,碰上有China or India offshore office 的你基本就是要12小时
上班啊。。
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It might be more pleasant to work in the current company in terms of : management and co-workers. They do not push me hard. Only one annoying : thing is that I have to take support calls in the middle of nights. On : average about one or two calls per week. Very disruptive to sleep.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 17 With some IT jobs you do not get calls so often or at least you are not on
first level. Mine is 24/7 now.
【在 y*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : IT不都是on call么,碰上有China or India offshore office 的你基本就是要12小时 : 上班啊。。
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 18
You brought up a good point. I think I do not have career planning.
Basically, I do not know where I can go as a senior software engineer. I am
definitely not management material. Neither do I want to be a manager.
Any suggestion?
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the pay itself is so so. career outlook is much more important.. : as for startup thingy, this year i think it is record-breaking(since dot-com : era) in term of seeding and serie-a activities in the valley.. so.. well. : what do i know.
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k*********t 发帖数: 2999 | 19 How do you know you are not a management material? I take it as a mere
excuse to yourself. Don't give it up so easily, man.
am
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : You brought up a good point. I think I do not have career planning. : Basically, I do not know where I can go as a senior software engineer. I am : definitely not management material. Neither do I want to be a manager. : Any suggestion?
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u**l 发帖数: 1043 | 20 I have a friend who was IT in an insurance company, she took the layoff
package last year. I think if the startup is an IT company, it would be a
good idea to take that offer, otherwise you will basically do routine work
in that financial company and end up not gaining much valuable experience.
$120k is also low for 10 year experience IMO.
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Expecting an offer from a financial company in San Francisco. The : position is IT. The base is $120K plus 20K to 40K year end bonus. No : sign on bonus. How is the offer? I have about 10 years experience in : IT. : I am also thinking for finding a position instead in a potential Pre- : IPO startup with stock options. Do you think that is a better choice? : Your input will be very appreciated!!! : P.S. I can only type Chinese very slowly (less than 5 characters per : min). So please bear with my poor English.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 21 Thank you for being direct and the encouragement. I will consider your
suggestion. So far I am not quite interested into being a manager.
【在 k*********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : How do you know you are not a management material? I take it as a mere : excuse to yourself. Don't give it up so easily, man. : : am
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 22 Thanks for the response. The work involved in my IT jobs have been
repetitive. Assuming I can stand the repetition, are you suggesting it is
better to get into a prospective Pre-IPO IT startup than to get into a
relatively higher-paid job in a mature public financial company?
【在 u**l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I have a friend who was IT in an insurance company, she took the layoff : package last year. I think if the startup is an IT company, it would be a : good idea to take that offer, otherwise you will basically do routine work : in that financial company and end up not gaining much valuable experience. : $120k is also low for 10 year experience IMO.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | |
f*****a 发帖数: 781 | 24 $120K is too low!!!
even fresh MS can get $140K here.
With your 10y exp, you should ask for at least $200K to $250K base + $30-$
100K annual bonus
【在 u**l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I have a friend who was IT in an insurance company, she took the layoff : package last year. I think if the startup is an IT company, it would be a : good idea to take that offer, otherwise you will basically do routine work : in that financial company and end up not gaining much valuable experience. : $120k is also low for 10 year experience IMO.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 25 Thank for the reply. This is just an IT position, although it is in a
financial company. My 10yrs experience is in IT, not in finance. Do you
really think I can ask for a base of $200K, or maybe just even for $140K?
Maybe you can share more so I can build my confidence? As I am not
confident of asking such high numbers now.
【在 f*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : $120K is too low!!! : even fresh MS can get $140K here. : With your 10y exp, you should ask for at least $200K to $250K base + $30-$ : 100K annual bonus
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s*******e 发帖数: 4188 | 26 he's just asking for some honest advice and is not familiar with all the
discussions that've been going on. be gentle.
【在 f*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : $120K is too low!!! : even fresh MS can get $140K here. : With your 10y exp, you should ask for at least $200K to $250K base + $30-$ : 100K annual bonus
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f*****a 发帖数: 781 | 27 Whats IT? internal software development? if internal dev, usually you can
ask at least $150K - $180K for starter.
If just managing IT equipment, then i don't know...
【在 D******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thank for the reply. This is just an IT position, although it is in a : financial company. My 10yrs experience is in IT, not in finance. Do you : really think I can ask for a base of $200K, or maybe just even for $140K? : Maybe you can share more so I can build my confidence? As I am not : confident of asking such high numbers now.
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D******8 发帖数: 114 | 28 Information Technology, in plain words, someone work as either hardware
administrator or software developer.
【在 f*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Whats IT? internal software development? if internal dev, usually you can : ask at least $150K - $180K for starter. : If just managing IT equipment, then i don't know...
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