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标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题 (转载)
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标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 21 11:03:53 2013, 美东)
Black, female, and a Silicon Valley 'trade secret'
By Julianne Pepitone
How diverse is Silicon Valley? Most tech companies really, really don't want
you to know, and the U.S. government isn't helping shed any light on the
issue.
In an investigation that began in August 2011, CNNMoney probed 20 of the
most influential U.S. technology companies, the Department of Labor, and the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, filing two Freedom of Information
Act requests for workforce diversity data.
See the five companies' diversity data
A year and a half, a pile of paperwork, and dozens of interviews later, we
have a little more insight -- but not much.
Most of the companies stonewalled us, but the data we were able to get
showed what one might expect: Ethnic minorities and women are generally
underrepresented, sometimes severely so -- particularly in management roles.
White and Asian males often dominate their fields.
Our investigation demonstrated how difficult -- and sometimes impossible --
gaining any insight into Silicon Valley's employee diversity can be. It
shows a general lack of transparency in an industry known for its openness.
First attempt: In 2011, as part of CNN's Black in America series, CNNMoney
reached out to 20 tech companies: the industry's 10 largest firms by annual
sales and 10 smaller but prominent companies. We asked each for information
about the race and sex makeup of their staff.
Only Dell (DELL, Fortune 500), Ingram Micro (IM, Fortune 500) and Intel (
INTC, Fortune 500) played ball. Intel, in stark contrast to the rest of the
tech industry, actually makes its employment diversity information public on
its website.
"Intel believes that transparency with our data is the best way to have a
genuine dialogue," Intel chief diversity officer Rosalind Hudnell told
CNNMoney last week. "We are tech companies and data drives our business; we
need to get beyond our fears that the numbers are a poor reflection on our
individual organizations and work together to address the issue collectively
. "
The other 17 companies refused to turn over their data. Having made little
headway by asking the companies ourselves, the only way to compel them to
release the data was through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
Every U.S. company with more than 100 employees is required to fork over an
annual report to the government, called the EEO-1, that categorizes U.S.
workers by their race and sex. An independent federal agency called the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) collects the data, using it
to play watchdog: It keeps a close eye on companies' hiring practices and
occasionally assists in investigations.
We sent the EEOC a FOIA request on Aug. 18, 2011, and three weeks later it
was denied. The EEOC said it is legally prohibited from releasing EEO-1
reports.
Read CNNMoney's FOIA requests and the government's responses
Second attempt: After consulting with experts and CNN's legal team, we
learned the Department of Labor has access to EEOC data for some companies -
- and unlike the EEOC, no federal statute bars the DOL from releasing the
reports.
We re-filed the FOIA request to the Department of Labor on Nov. 1, 2011. It
took more than a year for that request to be processed.
On Dec. 7, 2012, we finally received the data, but for only five companies:
Cisco (CSCO, Fortune 500), Dell, eBay (EBAY, Fortune 500), Ingram Micro and
Intel.
What happened to the other 15 companies' information is complicated.
The Labor Department has no authority to release EEO-1 reports for companies
that aren't federal contractors. That knocked out 10 companies: Amazon (
AMZN, Fortune 500), Facebook, Groupon (GRPN), Hulu, LinkedIn (LNKD),
LivingSocial, Netflix (NFLX), Twitter, Yelp (YELP) and Zynga (ZNGA).
But even contractors may block the release of their data. Apple (AAPL,
Fortune 500), Google (GOOG, Fortune 500), Hewlett-Packard (HPQ, Fortune 500)
, IBM (IBM, Fortune 500) and Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) all submitted
written objections, successfully petitioning the Department of Labor for
their data to be excluded on the basis that doing so would cause "
competitive harm."
Those five companies declined or ignored CNNMoney's requests for comment on
their unwillingness to turn over their data.
The information gap: "It's absolutely preposterous," said John Sims, a FOIA
expert and law professor at the University of the Pacific. "Knowing how many
white male sales workers a company has is a trade secret? Absurd."
Sims questioned why five companies consider these reports trade secrets,
while the other five allowed them to be released.
The data show diversity in Silicon Valley remains a serious issue. Some
companies cite a "pipeline problem," saying too few minorities and women are
graduating with technical degrees. Others argue that people tend to hire
people like themselves, and in tech, that's largely white and Asian males.
But the biggest obstacle, according to industry experts, is that few are
talking about the problem.
"This data is a just a baseline for discussion, but we can't end the problem
if we can't start the conversation," said Aditi Mohapatra, associate tech
sector director at BSR, a consulting group that works with companies on
social and sustainability issues. "For the tech industry to remain silent
about diversity is so not aligned with what they preach."
The Department of Labor said it does sometimes go back to companies and
demand defense of their claims.
In "rare" situations, the DOL said, this can escalate into lawsuits between
the government and the companies.
But lawsuits and appeals take time and money, and there's no guarantee of
data waiting at the end of the road. Mike Swift, a reporter with the San
Jose Mercury News, began probing the topic in 2008 by sending similar FOIA
requests for data from the region's 15 largest employers.
His inquiry sparked a two-year legal battle, resulting in access to data
from just one company -- HP -- that had opposed its release.
The Black Economic Council and the National Asian American Coalition have
also attempted to uncover diversity data at major companies, but most of
those requests have turned up little information.
"Companies are happy to hide behind a law that provides so little access to
this data," said Sims, the law professor. "Tech is the most vibrant sector
of the American economy, and rather than trying to fix problems, they want
to keep secrets." To top of page
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/17/technology/diversity-silicon-va | Q***N 发帖数: 2972 | | c********e 发帖数: 417 | 3 这就看你怎么play ball了。其实我们可以说:根据全美国每年非裔的CS和EE毕业生的
人数,和各大公司非裔的就职人数来看,硅谷的公司很显然已经超额完成了任务,远远
超过了大多数的行业。
want
【在 p*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】 : 发信人: choming (请抵制“十万强插”计划!), 信区: USANews : 标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题 (转载) : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 21 11:59:59 2013, 美东) : 发信人: TravisBickle (Travis), 信区: Military : 标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 21 11:03:53 2013, 美东) : Black, female, and a Silicon Valley 'trade secret' : By Julianne Pepitone : How diverse is Silicon Valley? Most tech companies really, really don't want
| N********n 发帖数: 8363 | 4 LOL, 硅工们,你们整天热捧OweBummer,铁杆力薄肉。现在好,力薄肉请
你们入DIVERSITY瓮。你们要继续坚定不移的支持下去,为DIVERSITY被雷
奥夫事小,放弃DIVERSITY失节乃大。不要动摇啊,HOHO。
"Ethnic minorities and women are generally underrepresented,
sometimes severely so -- particularly in management roles.
White and Asian males often dominate their fields." | p**j 发帖数: 7063 | 5 你要这么说,那就变成招生歧视了,直接在招生时候搞aa,招到比例,然后再招聘时候
再搞aa。
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这就看你怎么play ball了。其实我们可以说:根据全美国每年非裔的CS和EE毕业生的 : 人数,和各大公司非裔的就职人数来看,硅谷的公司很显然已经超额完成了任务,远远 : 超过了大多数的行业。 : : want
| n****l 发帖数: 6652 | 6 尼码,去调查nba, nfl去吧。
资本家凭啥给你diversity, 办慈善事业呢。
want
【在 p*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】 : 发信人: choming (请抵制“十万强插”计划!), 信区: USANews : 标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题 (转载) : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 21 11:59:59 2013, 美东) : 发信人: TravisBickle (Travis), 信区: Military : 标 题: CNN调查硅谷公司种族diversity歧视黑人的问题 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 21 11:03:53 2013, 美东) : Black, female, and a Silicon Valley 'trade secret' : By Julianne Pepitone : How diverse is Silicon Valley? Most tech companies really, really don't want
| c********e 发帖数: 417 | 7 选专业和进大学不一样,你觉得老黑会立志当硅工码农?民主党也不能逼老黑选什么客
呀?
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你要这么说,那就变成招生歧视了,直接在招生时候搞aa,招到比例,然后再招聘时候 : 再搞aa。
| p**j 发帖数: 7063 | 8 同理,民主党也不能逼老黑去硅谷面试啊。那这文章是怎么来的呢?
选择有两条,要么硅谷那些赚钱的企业,都要搞一堆非编程职位来养老黑。要么给政府
交罚款。
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 选专业和进大学不一样,你觉得老黑会立志当硅工码农?民主党也不能逼老黑选什么客 : 呀?
| w***u 发帖数: 17713 | 9 同时还要调查大学招生和给分的歧视,招生比例要按人口比例,成绩给A要按人口比例
给分,招工当然也要按比例。我最近想申请个NFL的,不招我我可是要告的哦。 |
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