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z******a
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Doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
BY RICHARD POLLOCK | DECEMBER 6, 2013 AT 7:27 AM
An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are
rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't
participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.
“It doesn't surprise me that there's a high rate of nonparticipation,”
said Dr. Richard Thorp, president of the California Medical Association.

Independent insurance brokers who work with both insurance companies and
doctor networks estimate that about 70 percent of California's 104,000
licensed doctors are boycotting the exchange.

Thorp has been a primary care doctor for 38 years in a small town 90 miles
north of Sacramento. The CMA represents 38,000 of the roughly 104,000
doctors in California.
“We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But
we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business
would do that,” he said.
California offers one of the lowest government reimbursement rates in the
country -- 30 percent lower than federal Medicare payments. And
reimbursement rates for some procedures are even lower.
In other states, Medicare pays doctors $76 for return-office visits. But in
California, Medi-Cal's reimbursement is $24, according to Dr. Theodore M.
Mazer, a San Diego ear, nose and throat doctor.
In other states, doctors receive between $500 to $700 to perform a
tonsillectomy. In California, they get $160, Mazer added.
Only in September did insurance companies disclose that their rates would be
pegged to California’s Medicaid plan, called Medi-Cal. That's driven many
doctors to just say no.
They're also pointing out that Covered California's website lists many
doctors as participants when they aren't.
“Some physicians have been put in the network and they were included
basically without their permission,” Lisa Folberg said. She is a CMA’s
vice president of medical and regulatory Policy.
“They may be listed as actually participating, but not of their own
volition,” said Donald Waters, executive director of the Alameda-Contra
Costa Medical Association.
Waters' group represents 3,100 doctors in the East Bay area that includes
Oakland, with an estimated 200,000 uninsured individuals.
“This is a dirty little secret that is not really talked about as they
promote Covered California,” Waters said. He called the exchange's doctors
list a “shell game” because “the vast majority” of his doctors are not
participating.
Independent insurance brokers who work with both insurance companies and
doctor networks estimate that about 70 percent of California's 104,000
licensed doctors are boycotting the exchange.
Mazer, a past president of the San Diego County Medical Society, agreed,
saying, “I cannot find anybody in my specialty in the area that has signed
a contract directly with any of these plans.
"The real question," Mazer added, "is how many doctors have signed up for
how many programs, and whether there’s more than 50 percent participation.”
Dr. Sherry Franklin, a pediatric endocrinologist at Rady’s Children’s
Hospital, San Diego, and at the University of California San Diego Hospital,
isn't joining the exchange.
Franklin said last summer she "got a letter in the mail letting me know if I
wanted to participate with Blue Cross through the exchange, which is
different from my regular Blue Cross practice, because they are paying less.
They did not tell me how much less. You had to agree or disagree. So, of
course, I said no."
For its part, Covered California expects as many as 85 percent of the state
’s doctors will join the new exchange.
“The Covered California board says we have plenty of doctors, and they
allege they have 85 percent of doctors participating," notes Mazer. "But
they’ve shown no numbers."
The exchange issued a May release making that claim before doctors could
respond to a memorandum of understanding from insurers. Most didn't because
the MOU lacked reimbursement rates.
“When they sent out MOU information and said, ‘Would you be willing to
participate?’ earlier this year, most of us said, ‘How about sending us
the rates?’ " Mazer recalled.
Mazer said that not only are many doctors not participating, but many are
also thinking of retiring.
“I just turned 55, and a lot of us are kind of going, ‘Maybe there’s
something else we can do in the last 10 years,’ because this is just
getting too onerous to keep on going.”
If a large number of doctors either balk at participating in the exchange or
retire, the state’s medical system could be overwhelmed.
No one is more aware of this than Alex Briscoe, health director for Alameda
County Health Care Services Agency, which includes Oakland.
“Enrollment doesn’t mean access, because there aren’t enough doctors to
take the low rates of Medicaid,” he said. “There aren’t enough primary
care physicians, period.”
Briscoe hopes his eight community health centers can handle the 200,000
uninsured individuals he said reside in his county, but he warned that “
there is a doctor shortage. It is going to get worse as more people enter
the market.”
Briscoe professed not to be surprised by the refusal of doctors to
participate in Covered California. “It rings true. I’ve been kind of
wondering in my head, ‘How are they offering such low premiums?’ ”
A spokesman for Anthem Blue Cross declined to comment on doctor
participation in its commercial and exchange networks, claiming it would not
be an “apples to apples” comparison.
Blue Shield of California did not return phone calls and emails.
Covered California did not respond to the Examiner's questions about doctor
participation and the accuracy of the exchange's participating doctors list.
z******a
发帖数: 5381
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In other states, Medicare pays doctors $76 for return-office visits. But in
California, Medi-Cal's reimbursement is $24, according to Dr. Theodore M.
Mazer, a San Diego ear, nose and throat doctor.
In other states, doctors receive between $500 to $700 to perform a
tonsillectomy. In California, they get $160, Mazer added.
B******e
发帖数: 5730
3
医疗从来不应该是致富途径
历史上的名医,哪一个是巨富?
这些美国医生太贪心了
应该送给土共,上山下乡做赤脚医生去
z******a
发帖数: 5381
4
我老可是听了你黑茶的话才选了O8!!
本来你不是说要保证我老医疗的么?
现在你索性把医生都送到土共那里,那你负责我老医疗的承诺是不是就如同放屁随风而
逝了?

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 医疗从来不应该是致富途径
: 历史上的名医,哪一个是巨富?
: 这些美国医生太贪心了
: 应该送给土共,上山下乡做赤脚医生去

t**8
发帖数: 4527
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revoke their license if they refuse patients three times

t

【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: Doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
: BY RICHARD POLLOCK | DECEMBER 6, 2013 AT 7:27 AM
: An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are
: rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't
: participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.
: “It doesn't surprise me that there's a high rate of nonparticipation,”
: said Dr. Richard Thorp, president of the California Medical Association.
: “
: Independent insurance brokers who work with both insurance companies and
: doctor networks estimate that about 70 percent of California's 104,000

z******a
发帖数: 5381
6
这个主意到不错哈。能实施么

【在 t**8 的大作中提到】
: revoke their license if they refuse patients three times
:
: t

B******e
发帖数: 5730
7
First, 不是每个医生都那么坏,杀鸡给猴看,其他的就乖乖的
Second, double medical school enrollment, 医生多了,就不敢太嚣张
进 medical school 时的誓言,说什么要立志为人类健康做最大无私贡献,都是放屁么?
而且,就看个小病小感冒,用不着全国千里选一的优秀学生

【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 我老可是听了你黑茶的话才选了O8!!
: 本来你不是说要保证我老医疗的么?
: 现在你索性把医生都送到土共那里,那你负责我老医疗的承诺是不是就如同放屁随风而
: 逝了?

B******e
发帖数: 5730
8
zerobama, 你真听我的话?
成,你肯把你的 id 改成 terabama ?
If you don't, you show your true color of a Republican.
r****7
发帖数: 2282
9
跟建议大家把gates的钱都分了一样会得到大多数人的赞同,但是不可行

【在 t**8 的大作中提到】
: revoke their license if they refuse patients three times
:
: t

z******a
发帖数: 5381
10
请问有何良策?

【在 r****7 的大作中提到】
: 跟建议大家把gates的钱都分了一样会得到大多数人的赞同,但是不可行
z******a
发帖数: 5381
11
fool me once......

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: zerobama, 你真听我的话?
: 成,你肯把你的 id 改成 terabama ?
: If you don't, you show your true color of a Republican.

z******a
发帖数: 5381
12
可是黑茶要杀鸡给猴看

【在 r****7 的大作中提到】
: 跟建议大家把gates的钱都分了一样会得到大多数人的赞同,但是不可行
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