r**c
发帖数: 1334 | |
f******o
发帖数: 1505 | 2 影响不影响房价？影响不影响贫困县？硅谷会搬走吗？ |
i*********e
发帖数: 1010 | 3 对阿三的忽悠能力会不会有影响
以后翻垃圾桶会不会有生命危险 |
r**c
发帖数: 1334 | 4 hehe, 这才是我们关注的重点啊，辐射就射呗。
【在 i*********e 的大作中提到】
: 对阿三的忽悠能力会不会有影响
: 以后翻垃圾桶会不会有生命危险
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 5 Some of the evidence doesn't sound credible.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 根据这篇文章的报道
: http://www.examiner.com/article/fukushima-radiated-west-co-cove
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r**c
发帖数: 1334 | 6 但是老头的测量看起来很真实啊？反驳一下？
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: Some of the evidence doesn't sound credible.
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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r****o
发帖数: 4282 | |
f********t
发帖数: 6999 | 8 咖喱射线
【在 r****o 的大作中提到】
: 会不会有一种射线,专杀阿三
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s**x
发帖数: 7506 | 9 我感觉海这么大，应该没什么问题。
核反应堆都是重分子吧？是不是早沉海底了？ |
c******k
发帖数: 617 | 10 nonsense. USA has done hundreds of times of nuclear test in pacific..
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 根据这篇文章的报道
: http://www.examiner.com/article/fukushima-radiated-west-co-cove
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 11 老大,广岛原子弹装药50千克级别，后来的也不比这个高,氢弹的原子弹预爆更小
日本这次有100吨以上的核燃料出问题，2000次核爆炸的量，另外南北太平洋的环流不
一样，水下核爆很少
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 c******k 的大作中提到】
: nonsense. USA has done hundreds of times of nuclear test in pacific..
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 12 铯和钾钠类似，高度水溶，别想着沉底
再说，沉底了螃蟹就不能吃了
盖革计数本底5X刚刚San Mateo local official confirmed. 150是一年致癌的量，时
间上也和洋流符合，上个月海啸的垃圾也刚刚飘到，一大坨
据说下面几年南加比北加还糟，这一阵子夏威夷最差，过一阵子如果日本不排了，夏威
夷会改善
海产要少吃了，包括海带，日本碘可是一星期后就在加州海岸的海带测到了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 s**x 的大作中提到】
: 我感觉海这么大，应该没什么问题。
: 核反应堆都是重分子吧？是不是早沉海底了？
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y*****d
发帖数: 4451 | 13 “Although the radiation levels were clearly higher than is typical,
Peterson emphasized that it was still not unsafe for humans,” Noack wrote.
“A person would need to be exposed to 100 microREMs of radiation for 50,000
hours before it surpassed safety guidelines by the Occupational Safety and
Health Administration, he explained.” |
c******k
发帖数: 617 | 14 So the whole pacific ocean or all the ocean have been radiation contaminated
?水溶 then diffusion will occur..concentration will be very low. plus half
life time of many of radiation elements are short, one is 8.2 days i
remember.
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 铯和钾钠类似，高度水溶，别想着沉底
: 再说，沉底了螃蟹就不能吃了
: 盖革计数本底5X刚刚San Mateo local official confirmed. 150是一年致癌的量，时
: 间上也和洋流符合，上个月海啸的垃圾也刚刚飘到，一大坨
: 据说下面几年南加比北加还糟，这一阵子夏威夷最差，过一阵子如果日本不排了，夏威
: 夷会改善
: 海产要少吃了，包括海带，日本碘可是一星期后就在加州海岸的海带测到了
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
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r*********4
发帖数: 718 | 15 太有才了 lol
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: 咖喱射线
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a********y
发帖数: 386 | 16 求科普：
中国东部的情况如何？
日本本土情况如何？
美国西部和中国东部哪个比较严重？
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 根据这篇文章的报道
: http://www.examiner.com/article/fukushima-radiated-west-co-cove
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W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 17 the sun light may be stronger on the beach? -- lol, just kidding
This is a concern: the
radioactive dust on the beach or in the ocean may get stuck on the human
body, and the dust can be carried over to their homes. This will lead to a
higher level of exposure to radiation at home, thanks to the long half life
of the radio elements.
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 但是老头的测量看起来很真实啊？反驳一下？
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 18 求“San Mateo local official confirmed.”的公开数据
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 铯和钾钠类似，高度水溶，别想着沉底
: 再说，沉底了螃蟹就不能吃了
: 盖革计数本底5X刚刚San Mateo local official confirmed. 150是一年致癌的量，时
: 间上也和洋流符合，上个月海啸的垃圾也刚刚飘到，一大坨
: 据说下面几年南加比北加还糟，这一阵子夏威夷最差，过一阵子如果日本不排了，夏威
: 夷会改善
: 海产要少吃了，包括海带，日本碘可是一星期后就在加州海岸的海带测到了
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
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R********e
发帖数: 165 | 19 http://planet.infowars.com/preparedness/official-detects-radiat
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 求“San Mateo local official confirmed.”的公开数据
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P******5
发帖数: 4868 | |
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 21 http://planet.infowars.com/ ?
信息战？
卖探测器的介绍
http://blog.safecast.org/
“Also worth noting is that while normal background levels around California
are between 30-60 CPM, and measurements have been taken on these beaches in
Half Moon Bay (as well as other spots along the west coast) of upwards of
200 CPM, this is still far less than what a person is exposed to on a
typical commercial airline flight where levels are regularly over 800 CPM
for the duration of the flight. 200 CPM is within the level you would expect
to measure from a granite counter top, or a building with some kinds of
exposed brick.
So the actual science here immediately disproves claims that there is
radiation from Fukushima hitting the beach in any detectible levels. Yet –
an important distinction – as many existing scientific models show that
trace, though detectible levels will reach the coast in the next few years,
a topic we’ll address in a future post.”
【在 R********e 的大作中提到】
: http://planet.infowars.com/preparedness/official-detects-radiat
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 22 iodine, the one with 8 day half life will reach US via air in any levels.
water is too slow.in 2011, within weeks of the accident, iodine was detected
in kelp of CA coast. this is really not the one ppl worry about. Just watch
for those major release incidents along the way should be good enough.
Cs137 has half life of 30 years, so it takes 100year to drop to 1/10. this
means it is strong and it stays for generations. According to so model, the
current will carry Cs137 reach west coat in about 3 years so it is about
time anytime now. remember the debris of the tsunami already showed up late
last year and the leak would be some time behind only. vertical mixing is
not as fast as a lot of people think.
How harmful and how high level of the radiation is debatable. There were a
lot of reports showed for radiation, there is really no nonharmful limits
and there is always accumulated effects even at low level. data for such
research are claimed pulled from something like cancer rate vs local
background radiation, which naturally varies from place to place.
external radiation is less of a problem. some claim internal radiation is
about 200 to 600 more harmful if it was ingested. Cs137 will accumulate
along the food chain and soon, not to be surprised if Alaska salmon showed
up radioactive.
contaminated
【在 c******k 的大作中提到】
: So the whole pacific ocean or all the ocean have been radiation contaminated
: ?水溶 then diffusion will occur..concentration will be very low. plus half
: life time of many of radiation elements are short, one is 8.2 days i
: remember.
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m********8
发帖数: 7463 | 23 怕怕鸭。 鱼不能吃了还是小事
就怕整个湾区接近完蛋，然后政府为了维护繁荣藏着盖着
detected
watch
the
late
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: iodine, the one with 8 day half life will reach US via air in any levels.
: water is too slow.in 2011, within weeks of the accident, iodine was detected
: in kelp of CA coast. this is really not the one ppl worry about. Just watch
: for those major release incidents along the way should be good enough.
: Cs137 has half life of 30 years, so it takes 100year to drop to 1/10. this
: means it is strong and it stays for generations. According to so model, the
: current will carry Cs137 reach west coat in about 3 years so it is about
: time anytime now. remember the debris of the tsunami already showed up late
: last year and the leak would be some time behind only. vertical mixing is
: not as fast as a lot of people think.
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 24 除了食物富集效应吓人一些，倒不是那么可怕
人体的碳14，香蕉的钾40都是来源
问题是这些是自然代谢的，任何额外的辐射都是叠加的量
花岗岩是氡的主要来源，氡据说是仅次于抽烟的第二肺癌病因
所以氡是房检的一部分，花岗岩也管得很盐，不要早便宜老中老越买厨房石面，吼吼
Cs据说替代钾，会在一些器官（还有肾）富集，比较恶劣
话说回来，也可能有人因为担心这个担心出毛病来
California
in
expect
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: http://planet.infowars.com/ ?
: 信息战？
: 卖探测器的介绍
: http://blog.safecast.org/
: “Also worth noting is that while normal background levels around California
: are between 30-60 CPM, and measurements have been taken on these beaches in
: Half Moon Bay (as well as other spots along the west coast) of upwards of
: 200 CPM, this is still far less than what a person is exposed to on a
: typical commercial airline flight where levels are regularly over 800 CPM
: for the duration of the flight. 200 CPM is within the level you would expect
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 25 有趣的是好些个模型结果是，福岛停止排放后，几年内最高的是南加和baja
california那片
话说福岛还没停止排放的说，日本人现在是神风核攻击大大的 |
