o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 1 So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大
家给发包
子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-)
Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400
(worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not
likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW
may be able to loan one out from the
physics department.
this link has information about average background radiation.
http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm |
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r********0 发帖数: 470 | |
g*****A 发帖数: 14950 | 4 专业
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 6 How did you get this figure?
Is it normal, above average, or below average?
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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c*****a 发帖数: 1238 | 8 The average annual dose in the Northern Hemisphere is less than 1 millirem
annually. That falls below the 100 millirem exposure limit the Nuclear
Regulatory Commission recommends.
so 0.008 mrem/hour.
is close to 70 millirem per year...
where is your location of data reporting? |
z********o 发帖数: 4284 | 9 这说的是西雅图?
有没有简易设备的?每人家里装一个那种? |
b****n 发帖数: 1179 | |
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N*D 发帖数: 3641 | 12 置个顶先,记得每天更新啊。
谁有不同意见,也请发表发表,呵呵。
008
400
UW
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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h********0 发帖数: 70 | 15 1. The worldwide average background dose for a human being is about 2.4
millisievert (mSv) per year. See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation
2. 1 mrem = 0.01 mSv therefore 70 mr/year is equivalent to .70 mSv/year -
see http://energyfaq.ottawa.on.ca/new-energy/question-about-rem-and-sievert-15282-2.html
So the reading is way below world average.
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The average annual dose in the Northern Hemisphere is less than 1 millirem : annually. That falls below the 100 millirem exposure limit the Nuclear : Regulatory Commission recommends. : so 0.008 mrem/hour. : is close to 70 millirem per year... : where is your location of data reporting?
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b****n 发帖数: 1179 | 17 30年啊?那原来切尔诺贝利的核云飘到基辅上空以后,当时死了很多人,后来怎么慢慢
搞好了? |
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w****r 发帖数: 17566 | 19 ding
008
Please
400
UW
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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c*****a 发帖数: 1238 | 20 Thanks for info.
3/16/2011, radiation around .011 mrem/hour.
which is equal to 964 mrem/year, or 9.64 mSv/year.
seems elevated, keep watching.
【在 h********0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1. The worldwide average background dose for a human being is about 2.4 : millisievert (mSv) per year. See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation : 2. 1 mrem = 0.01 mSv therefore 70 mr/year is equivalent to .70 mSv/year - : see http://energyfaq.ottawa.on.ca/new-energy/question-about-rem-and-sievert-15282-2.html : So the reading is way below world average.
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W**i 发帖数: 447 | 21 前几天zlike贴的那张图上说几天飘到这儿来着?
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks for info. : 3/16/2011, radiation around .011 mrem/hour. : which is equal to 964 mrem/year, or 9.64 mSv/year. : seems elevated, keep watching.
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c*****a 发帖数: 1238 | 22 The elevated radiation level confirms that the wind is already blowing west
coast. |
w****r 发帖数: 17566 | 23 5
【在 W**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 前几天zlike贴的那张图上说几天飘到这儿来着?
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 24 我估计是今天晴天了。。。
008
Please
400
UW
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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M****I 发帖数: 428 | 25 我觉得lz的update一楼更新比较好,
省得大家一楼一楼的爬 |
d*****g 发帖数: 1538 | 26 wrong math!
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks for info. : 3/16/2011, radiation around .011 mrem/hour. : which is equal to 964 mrem/year, or 9.64 mSv/year. : seems elevated, keep watching.
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A******c 发帖数: 595 | |
w***w 发帖数: 1552 | 28 先把前面的数字算对了,再来考虑从0.008 -》0.011就可以"confims that the wind i
s already blowing west coast?"
west
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The elevated radiation level confirms that the wind is already blowing west : coast.
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z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 29 6天,恰好就是今天(最早的话)。
没这么准吧...
我的碘片还在路上ship中...
【在 W**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 前几天zlike贴的那张图上说几天飘到这儿来着?
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 30 normal range is 0.006-0.015
i
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 先把前面的数字算对了,再来考虑从0.008 -》0.011就可以"confims that the wind i : s already blowing west coast?" : : west
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p******a 发帖数: 413 | 31
You guys...這讓我情何以堪啊
也不問問LZ的Geiger Counter偏差是多少
增加了0.003就成這樣了
從前用CRT的時候你發個帖子的時間都超過這個計量了
帶夜光錶的童鞋拿個計數器測測自己的表,估計也要暈掉了
拜託!!你們這樣會嚇到膽小的人,然後他們真的跑去嗑什麼碘片,磕出問題來你們負
責啊
(P.S., LZ好樣的,小心求證。無奈的是任何non-significant movement也會被大眾放
大……)
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 6天,恰好就是今天(最早的话)。 : 没这么准吧... : 我的碘片还在路上ship中...
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p******a 发帖数: 413 | 32
Bingo!
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我估计是今天晴天了。。。 : : 008 : Please : 400 : UW
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w***w 发帖数: 1552 | 33 俺不知道normal range是多少,俺只是觉得从0.008 -》0.011怎么也没可能就可以“co
nfirms that wind is already blowing west coast”,当然,要是按照他的算法要额
外乘个10的,那就是另外一说了
wind
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : normal range is 0.006-0.015 : : i
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 34 都是吃多碘片甲亢的结果
co
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俺不知道normal range是多少,俺只是觉得从0.008 -》0.011怎么也没可能就可以“co : nfirms that wind is already blowing west coast”,当然,要是按照他的算法要额 : 外乘个10的,那就是另外一说了 : : wind
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c*****a 发帖数: 1238 | 35 sorry, should be 96.4 mrem/year, or 1 mSv/year.
I should double check, as I was hurry for a meeting.
Thanks for a few people indicate the error.
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks for info. : 3/16/2011, radiation around .011 mrem/hour. : which is equal to 964 mrem/year, or 9.64 mSv/year. : seems elevated, keep watching.
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z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 36 反正是在上升,需要开始关注就对了。
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Bingo!
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x***1 发帖数: 30 | 38 刚刚看到还有一个网站公布读数说今天是0.02
http://hbhblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/seattle-radiation-update.ht
看来没什么,机器误差,测的地方不同,读数会有差,只要是level下就好.不知这里的数据
是室外还是室内.
谢谢,正靠这数据决定要不要不送小孩去上学,在家避一避.
008
Please
400
UW
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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o******6 发帖数: 159 | 41 On the updates for 3/18, the authur says "Good news from Japan: the cooling
system restarted after power connect. so i'll stop update in a couple of
days. thanks everyone for baozi!"
Howcome I did not see the good news on the media website. Can anybody give a
link about this news?
008
Please don't panick.
cooling system restarted after power connect. so i'll stop update in a
couple of days. thanks everyone for baozi!
the equivalent dosage from number of particles detected, averaged within a
couple of minutes. it probably costed around $400
UW
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 42 要知道云彩这周末才漂过来 所以前几天检测是没用的 后面几天才有用 楼主此时罢
工 有欺骗群众之嫌疑。。
cooling
a
a
【在 o******6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : On the updates for 3/18, the authur says "Good news from Japan: the cooling : system restarted after power connect. so i'll stop update in a couple of : days. thanks everyone for baozi!" : Howcome I did not see the good news on the media website. Can anybody give a : link about this news? : : 008 : Please don't panick. : cooling system restarted after power connect. so i'll stop update in a : couple of days. thanks everyone for baozi!
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h******i 发帖数: 282 | 43 楼主本来就是好心为大家提供信息,虽然我也希望他可以继续下去,但实际上他可以在
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S*****8 发帖数: 177 | 44 别人给包子了啊。
【在 h******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 楼主本来就是好心为大家提供信息,虽然我也希望他可以继续下去,但实际上他可以在 : 任何时候以任何理由停止,何来欺骗?
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 45 辐射云还远没有到 没有仪器也能知道前面几天正常 所以楼主到目前为止并没有提供
任何有用信息
【在 h******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 楼主本来就是好心为大家提供信息,虽然我也希望他可以继续下去,但实际上他可以在 : 任何时候以任何理由停止,何来欺骗?
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x***1 发帖数: 30 | 46 十分感谢楼主在大家需要的时候提供数据。这里有Washington state的daily数据,楼
主可以休息休息。如果government提供的数据trend和你的reading不一样,还拜托楼主
通知一下。
http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor-history.htm |
d****u 发帖数: 724 | 47 我也好奇樓主說的“Good news from Japan: the cooling
system restarted after power connect.”
請問是從哪裡看到的啊? |
n****7 发帖数: 8354 | 48 十分感谢楼主
【在 x***1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 十分感谢楼主在大家需要的时候提供数据。这里有Washington state的daily数据,楼 : 主可以休息休息。如果government提供的数据trend和你的reading不一样,还拜托楼主 : 通知一下。 : http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor-history.htm
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a******m 发帖数: 414 | 49 感谢lz的同时,深深地忧虑为何在最需要分享数据的时候停止。
难道被管制了? |
W**i 发帖数: 447 | 50 不会吧。表吓我们。
【在 a******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 感谢lz的同时,深深地忧虑为何在最需要分享数据的时候停止。 : 难道被管制了?
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d*****g 发帖数: 1538 | 51 今天我跟几个同事提到LZ不久要暂停更新了,他们的反应居然都是说可能被干预了。我
都没这么想呢。但愿LZ没遇到什么麻烦。 |
I****8 发帖数: 988 | 52 3月12日的为什么这么高?
【在 x***1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 十分感谢楼主在大家需要的时候提供数据。这里有Washington state的daily数据,楼 : 主可以休息休息。如果government提供的数据trend和你的reading不一样,还拜托楼主 : 通知一下。 : http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor-history.htm
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t*****s 发帖数: 2933 | 53 十有八九是被和谐了.估计官方网站也和谐了.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/SanFrancisco/33473551.html
【在 d*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天我跟几个同事提到LZ不久要暂停更新了,他们的反应居然都是说可能被干预了。我 : 都没这么想呢。但愿LZ没遇到什么麻烦。
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i***d 发帖数: 878 | 54 这个我前几天就预测过了,楼主会被请去喝咖啡的
【在 d*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天我跟几个同事提到LZ不久要暂停更新了,他们的反应居然都是说可能被干预了。我 : 都没这么想呢。但愿LZ没遇到什么麻烦。
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r**k 发帖数: 1402 | 56 Daily Data from Washington State Department of Health
http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor.htm |
t******n 发帖数: 538 | 57 why only beta radiation got monitored?
【在 r**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Daily Data from Washington State Department of Health : http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor.htm
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r**k 发帖数: 1402 | 58 "The chart shows radiations measures known as “gross beta,” a term that
refers to all radioactive materials that emit beta radiation. Gross beta
measurements are used because they give us the fastest indication of any
change in radiation levels. They’re measured in “counts per minute.”"
【在 t******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why only beta radiation got monitored?
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z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 59 Md,我没想到美国政府会无耻到这种地步。
禁止公开私人测量数据,同时在加州人工降雨。。。
天朝再如何,也是一个种族的人。日妈美国这种随便选个黑鬼当总统犹太人垂帘听政的
破烂组织,是根本没有人
性的现代奴隶社会。
【在 i***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个我前几天就预测过了,楼主会被请去喝咖啡的
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w****a 发帖数: 2049 | 60 re. 我也猜被干预了.
如果没有干预,可不可以起码公布数据直到辐射云飘到西雅图以后的几天? 现在云还在
加州呢.
关键时候,政府就是靠不住. 还是民间的靠得住些.
【在 d*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天我跟几个同事提到LZ不久要暂停更新了,他们的反应居然都是说可能被干预了。我 : 都没这么想呢。但愿LZ没遇到什么麻烦。
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c*****a 发帖数: 1238 | 61 一语中的.
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Md,我没想到美国政府会无耻到这种地步。 : 禁止公开私人测量数据,同时在加州人工降雨。。。 : 天朝再如何,也是一个种族的人。日妈美国这种随便选个黑鬼当总统犹太人垂帘听政的 : 破烂组织,是根本没有人 : 性的现代奴隶社会。
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t******n 发帖数: 538 | 62 i read this passage before i post my question: what if i do not care about
the fastest indication, but the most harmful radiation, alpha ray in this
case?
【在 r**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "The chart shows radiations measures known as “gross beta,” a term that : refers to all radioactive materials that emit beta radiation. Gross beta : measurements are used because they give us the fastest indication of any : change in radiation levels. They’re measured in “counts per minute.”"
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t******n 发帖数: 538 | |
t******n 发帖数: 538 | 64 为你鼓掌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
008
Please don't panick.
cooling system restarted after power connect. so i'll stop update in a
couple of days. thanks everyone for baozi!
might have been premature. but today it's definitely for real, though the
cooling system is not restored yet:
more days, no worries.
the equivalent dosage from number of particles detected, averaged within a
couple of minutes. it probably costed around $400
likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW
may be able to loan one out from the
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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d*****g 发帖数: 1538 | 65 gamma射线是最相关的吧?EPA有公布gamma射线,就是我看不懂。
另,辐射云早几天就已经到西雅图了,新闻讲是周三周四在这里检测到,周五在加州检
测到的。 |
b********i 发帖数: 1252 | |
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p****u 发帖数: 517 | 68 http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-losangeles-bg.html
今天这个 beta gross count rate 一下子spike 了两三倍,有点诡异,外行看起来有
点担心。有懂的来解解惑?谢谢! |
p****u 发帖数: 517 | 69 LA刚测到新高3/21/11
那个标注都没有标normal了
这个http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/
刚测到新高3/21/11
9:55 am 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 50.9 CPM
9:22 am 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 44.5 CPM NORMAL
9:10 am 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 41.5 CPM NORMAL
8:20 am 10-minute INTERIOR average: 45.6 CPM NORMAL
3/20/11
10:25 pm 10-minute average 44.8 CPM NORMAL
7:50 pm 10-minute average: 39.6 CPM NORMAL
5:50 pm 10-minute average: 46.4 CPM NORMAL
3:55 pm 10-minute average: 43.1 CPM NORMAL
1:15 pm 10-minute average: 45.0 CPM NORMAL
3:45 am 10-minute average: 42.5 CPM NORMAL |
b****n 发帖数: 1179 | 70 现在日本福岛电站如何了?是不是冷却系统运行了,一切都安全了?这次辐射污染了多
少人啊?过几年会造成的赔偿会很大吗? |
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b********i 发帖数: 1252 | 71 thanks a lot for your effort |
N****w 发帖数: 21578 | 72 http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radia
3/24/11
10:00 am 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 48.7 CPM
8:40 am 10-minute INTERIOR average: 42.2 CPM NORMAL
3/23/11
7:00 pm 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 45.1 CPM NORMAL
6:35 pm 10-minute INTERIOR average: 49.5 CPM
2:00 pm 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 49.4 CPM
11:00 am 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 47.6 CPM
8:50 am 10-minute INTERIOR average: 48.2 CPM
【在 b********i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : thanks a lot for your effort
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g*****A 发帖数: 14950 | 73 现在是不是又严重了?
008
Please
the
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So far, 3/14/2011 Seattle, only background radiation = 0.008 mrem/hour. 谢谢大 : 家给发包 : 子, I'll need a lot of it since i am expecting :-) : Radiation is measured using a geiger counter, it probably costed around $400 : (worth the peace of mind); On the other hand, the leaks in Japan is not : likely to cause a lot of radioactive fallout here (my guess). People in UW : may be able to loan one out from the : physics department. : this link has information about average background radiation. : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm
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s***i 发帖数: 10182 | 74 主要是海水吧...洋流还没过来
【在 g*****A 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在是不是又严重了? : : 008 : Please : the
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d*****g 发帖数: 1538 | |
b****n 发帖数: 1179 | |