z******n
发帖数: 336 | 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urj8q2Qqsig
Michael Milton is one of Australia's best-known athletes. His four-gold-
medal haul at the 2002 Winter Paralympic Games endeared him to a sport-
loving nation and earned him the title of Laureus World Sportsperson of the
Year with a Disability. |
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 2 我见过一个单脚人在滑雪，在至少25度的一个道上，还有多次看见有人抬起一只脚专门
练习内脚走外刃。
the
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urj8q2Qqsig
: Michael Milton is one of Australia's best-known athletes. His four-gold-
: medal haul at the 2002 Winter Paralympic Games endeared him to a sport-
: loving nation and earned him the title of Laureus World Sportsperson of the
: Year with a Disability.
|
W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 3 So according to your theory, why bother? The two foot skiing/carving is
already enough :)
BTW, in case you are in the mood to argue again :) that is the proper/
advanced training to master weight shifting, the skier intentionally takes
off one ski, and use only one ski to both edges to make turns both ways. I
would not recommend you trying it until you can even ski on one foot first.
还有多次看见有人抬起一只脚专门
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 我见过一个单脚人在滑雪，在至少25度的一个道上，还有多次看见有人抬起一只脚专门
: 练习内脚走外刃。
:
: the
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 4 哦，你误会了，我只是看见了而已。qmc版大不是以前也看见过？脱掉了一只的话走路
可能不方便，我看到的那人是抬一只ski在滑。
这个可能我下次去滑雪的时候会试一下，本来没打算声张，你真是知我心啊（版大语）。
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: So according to your theory, why bother? The two foot skiing/carving is
: already enough :)
: BTW, in case you are in the mood to argue again :) that is the proper/
: advanced training to master weight shifting, the skier intentionally takes
: off one ski, and use only one ski to both edges to make turns both ways. I
: would not recommend you trying it until you can even ski on one foot first.
:
: 还有多次看见有人抬起一只脚专门
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 5 Lifting one ski is one thing, taking off one ski is completely different
thing. Anyway, why bother if two-footed "carving" is your thing? :)
）。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 哦，你误会了，我只是看见了而已。qmc版大不是以前也看见过？脱掉了一只的话走路
: 可能不方便，我看到的那人是抬一只ski在滑。
: 这个可能我下次去滑雪的时候会试一下，本来没打算声张，你真是知我心啊（版大语）。
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 6 没人说这两个一样，不过我都没做过，感觉至少重心分配就不一样。从最后一句看出你
开始胡乱联想了，我展开想象的翅膀飞呀飞（版主表拍我）。。。
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Lifting one ski is one thing, taking off one ski is completely different
: thing. Anyway, why bother if two-footed "carving" is your thing? :)
:
: ）。
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z******n
发帖数: 336 | 7 WO12345 is so patient and polite to explain things for you. Even if he
misunderstood your point, then just simply reexplain it clearly. It is
really unneseccary to say that 问题不在这里你就别忙了, or 你开始胡乱联想了.
You often accuse others to be "阴阳怪气" to you. Yes, it is fact that some
of them are not friendly to you and I don't think they are right. BUT, have
you ever looked at your own condescendig attitude? It is a vicious cycle with yourseld as an essential part of it. |
q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 8 当初Yoss回答他的问题一样耐心
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: WO12345 is so patient and polite to explain things for you. Even if he
: misunderstood your point, then just simply reexplain it clearly. It is
: really unneseccary to say that 问题不在这里你就别忙了, or 你开始胡乱联想了.
: You often accuse others to be "阴阳怪气" to you. Yes, it is fact that some
: of them are not friendly to you and I don't think they are right. BUT, have
: you ever looked at your own condescendig attitude? It is a vicious cycle with yourseld as an essential part of it.
|
z******n
发帖数: 336 | 9 I know.
I learned a lot from YOSS and MO12345's reply posts. I hope I will have
chance to learn from them in person next season. I feel that my bad habits
will become permanent soon if I don't get good instructions.
发信人: qmc (qmc), 信区: Ski
标 题: Re: 有本事一只脚,My Hero Michael Milton
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 22 13:33:15 2009), 转信
当初Yoss回答他的问题一样耐心 |
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 10 这个，好像我没问过Yoss问题吧。你纠正一下，如果当时是我问本版网友问题但是却不
虚心，那我就道歉。
了.
some
have
with yourseld as an essential part of it.
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 当初Yoss回答他的问题一样耐心
|
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 11 Yoss的录像不错，前几天我还拿来给Randonee推荐呢，不过他的点杖观点和录像无关。
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: I know.
: I learned a lot from YOSS and MO12345's reply posts. I hope I will have
: chance to learn from them in person next season. I feel that my bad habits
: will become permanent soon if I don't get good instructions.
: 发信人: qmc (qmc), 信区: Ski
: 标 题: Re: 有本事一只脚,My Hero Michael Milton
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 22 13:33:15 2009), 转信
: 当初Yoss回答他的问题一样耐心
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 12 不跑题，不PA的帖子，不乱揣测的话，我想说阴阳怪气都难啊。为什么大家非要给我这
个机会呢？我反思我检讨。
have
with yourseld as an essential part of it.
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: WO12345 is so patient and polite to explain things for you. Even if he
: misunderstood your point, then just simply reexplain it clearly. It is
: really unneseccary to say that 问题不在这里你就别忙了, or 你开始胡乱联想了.
: You often accuse others to be "阴阳怪气" to you. Yes, it is fact that some
: of them are not friendly to you and I don't think they are right. BUT, have
: you ever looked at your own condescendig attitude? It is a vicious cycle with yourseld as an essential part of it.
|
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 13 我在雪场见过单腿滑动，很厉害
今年还见过一个老大爷背了氧气瓶滑
the
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urj8q2Qqsig
: Michael Milton is one of Australia's best-known athletes. His four-gold-
: medal haul at the 2002 Winter Paralympic Games endeared him to a sport-
: loving nation and earned him the title of Laureus World Sportsperson of the
: Year with a Disability.
|
q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 14 You are speaking 阴阳怪气 here. Please don't always say other people are 阴
阳怪气.
）。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 哦，你误会了，我只是看见了而已。qmc版大不是以前也看见过？脱掉了一只的话走路
: 可能不方便，我看到的那人是抬一只ski在滑。
: 这个可能我下次去滑雪的时候会试一下，本来没打算声张，你真是知我心啊（版大语）。
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 15 对不起，版大我道歉。下次我一定用心心相通这种无关的词。我还以为你不在乎呢，不
好意思。
走路
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: You are speaking 阴阳怪气 here. Please don't always say other people are 阴
: 阳怪气.
:
: ）。
|
W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 16 I don't think I "胡乱联想" that your No 1 rule was always two-footed equal
weight "carving" was the best, and now you said you wanted to try ski on one
-foot since I can read your mind:) I am sure that is my wild imagination:)
You are so lovely :)
It is a joke when you showed the two-footed carving of that swiss skiier and
used it to support your point of equal two-foot carving. His is CARVING,
extreme carving I might say. And yours?! Maybe you should show him your ski
video and ask him to support y
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 没人说这两个一样，不过我都没做过，感觉至少重心分配就不一样。从最后一句看出你
: 开始胡乱联想了，我展开想象的翅膀飞呀飞（版主表拍我）。。。
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 17 开始了开始了，论证我其实并不会xxx。你赢了，算我根本没滑过雪吧。
Yoss贴的那个录像是为了教学吧，不是单单show一下啊（Yoss是那么有耐心的好人）。
我是好学生我照做过了，你做过没？
one
and
ski
how
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: I don't think I "胡乱联想" that your No 1 rule was always two-footed equal
: weight "carving" was the best, and now you said you wanted to try ski on one
: -foot since I can read your mind:) I am sure that is my wild imagination:)
: You are so lovely :)
: It is a joke when you showed the two-footed carving of that swiss skiier and
: used it to support your point of equal two-foot carving. His is CARVING,
: extreme carving I might say. And yours?! Maybe you should show him your ski
: video and ask him to support y
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 18 Very much so as far as carving is concerned. All you need is to admit this
and don't try to use theories you don't understand or fantasize techniques
you know very little about to justify your beginner skills. I think that is
what caused so many people to respond because in a way, they don't want you
to mislead others, who may want to improve their skiing with proper
techniques.
BTW, as I said before, you don't have to learn carving to enjoy skiing like
most peoples.
As for my video, I never sai
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 开始了开始了，论证我其实并不会xxx。你赢了，算我根本没滑过雪吧。
: Yoss贴的那个录像是为了教学吧，不是单单show一下啊（Yoss是那么有耐心的好人）。
: 我是好学生我照做过了，你做过没？
:
: one
: and
: ski
: how
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 19 你发的太长了，而且越来离题越远。不用花时间论证我ski的水平了，我早就投降了。
is
you
这个算是对我提的问题（我不会carving，我不会ski，我need什么？）的回答？可我好
像没问啊。我再不懂滑雪也知道该找身边看得见摸得着的人寻求意见，你说是不是？
like
这个就更离题了。既然有愿意滑powder的，有愿意考级的，有愿意玩groomed的，各玩
各的不行吗？非要同一个世界，同一个梦想才行吗？
I?
that
水平问题也很无聊，所以一般论坛上大家都自称初学者，尽量探讨问题，就算职业教练
也不给别人上课，更何况别人还没问问题就非要上课。
't
我都练过了，你再怎么说也改变不了啊。你要是也练过一次的话，咱们就没有争执了。
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Very much so as far as carving is concerned. All you need is to admit this
: and don't try to use theories you don't understand or fantasize techniques
: you know very little about to justify your beginner skills. I think that is
: what caused so many people to respond because in a way, they don't want you
: to mislead others, who may want to improve their skiing with proper
: techniques.
: BTW, as I said before, you don't have to learn carving to enjoy skiing like
: most peoples.
: As for my video, I never sai
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 20 Remember, all started from you stating YOUR way of two-footed equal weight
carving is the best way. I didn't say anything to that effect, did I?
I simply proved that you are very wrong with your own evidences. (your own
videos, and the professional text book/pictures examples you used)
(the other being your way of pole planting... :)) For a beginner who dares
not take any level of skiing exams, stating all the "truth" is very
misleading to say the least. There are like 12 levels of ski school on |
|
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 21 好了好了，我错我错，我的书也有错，video也错，里面滑的人也错（大家对不住了）。
你现在是美国12级中的几级？我想看看那个12级标准行不？
日本的2级和1级需要严格按照动作要领滑才能过，这个不练怎么行？其它的比如3-5级
只要能不摔倒滑下来就能过，但是必须上人家的课，网上评论认为考了也是骗钱我就没
参加。
你不会以为SAJ一级是初级吧，OMG。
can
examples
lovely
了。
我好
各玩
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Remember, all started from you stating YOUR way of two-footed equal weight
: carving is the best way. I didn't say anything to that effect, did I?
: I simply proved that you are very wrong with your own evidences. (your own
: videos, and the professional text book/pictures examples you used)
: (the other being your way of pole planting... :)) For a beginner who dares
: not take any level of skiing exams, stating all the "truth" is very
: misleading to say the least. There are like 12 levels of ski school on
|
z******n
发帖数: 336 | 22 Maybe this communication obstacle can never be overcome given the different
languages, personalities, experiences and skills. Maybe somewhere in this
world, the definition is that you are "carving" as long as you are using the two edges of both skis simultaneously for any little bit of time during your skiing. (Oh No No No, we don't need to care about the transition stage of turns, regardless smooth or skid, whatever). Then, every problem solved, we are all born carving genius, everybody is carv
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Remember, all started from you stating YOUR way of two-footed equal weight
: carving is the best way. I didn't say anything to that effect, did I?
: I simply proved that you are very wrong with your own evidences. (your own
: videos, and the professional text book/pictures examples you used)
: (the other being your way of pole planting... :)) For a beginner who dares
: not take any level of skiing exams, stating all the "truth" is very
: misleading to say the least. There are like 12 levels of ski school on
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 23 没看见我还说了short turn吗？准备考试之前，首先得明白人家要考什么才行。有些人
明显搞不清楚大小回转区别在哪里啊。
different
this
weight
own
dares
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Maybe this communication obstacle can never be overcome given the different
: languages, personalities, experiences and skills. Maybe somewhere in this
: world, the definition is that you are "carving" as long as you are using the two edges of both skis simultaneously for any little bit of time during your skiing. (Oh No No No, we don't need to care about the transition stage of turns, regardless smooth or skid, whatever). Then, every problem solved, we are all born carving genius, everybody is carv
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 24 小菊美眉也会道歉，也有错了的时候，真难得嘛，太阳从西边出来了，心心相通呢，我
虽然吓得要起鸡皮疙瘩，不过这么难得的心心相通，你赶快回去告诉你老婆，快把你老
婆休了，再来看看你是不是合格。。。。。。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 对不起，版大我道歉。下次我一定用心心相通这种无关的词。我还以为你不在乎呢，不
: 好意思。
:
: 走路
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 25 看见你一发帖，我才是小心肝吓的乱颤呢。一不小心把boot不光左右穿反，前后也穿反
了，嘿嘿。
，不
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 小菊美眉也会道歉，也有错了的时候，真难得嘛，太阳从西边出来了，心心相通呢，我
: 虽然吓得要起鸡皮疙瘩，不过这么难得的心心相通，你赶快回去告诉你老婆，快把你老
: 婆休了，再来看看你是不是合格。。。。。。
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 26 See, you are starting to mix things to your advantages again.
I never said your profession books or examples were wrong. I never said your
skiing were wrong(only that it is beginner level). I only said trying to
equate the two was wrong. And I never tried to teach you anything, only
tried to prove equating your skiing with text book examples are wrong. I don
't think you disagree.
I am level 0. I am always learning. That is why I never ventured to impose
my
own skills or my judgements as the pro
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 好了好了，我错我错，我的书也有错，video也错，里面滑的人也错（大家对不住了）。
: 你现在是美国12级中的几级？我想看看那个12级标准行不？
: 日本的2级和1级需要严格按照动作要领滑才能过，这个不练怎么行？其它的比如3-5级
: 只要能不摔倒滑下来就能过，但是必须上人家的课，网上评论认为考了也是骗钱我就没
: 参加。
: 你不会以为SAJ一级是初级吧，OMG。
:
: can
: examples
: lovely
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 27 小菊别羞答答嘛，要勇敢点，你不敢说，我去帮你告诉你老婆你说和我心心相通
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 看见你一发帖，我才是小心肝吓的乱颤呢。一不小心把boot不光左右穿反，前后也穿反
: 了，嘿嘿。
:
: ，不
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 28 天，我可丝毫没有看不起你的意思。你自认level0了就这么有信心，我只有崇拜的份怎
么敢质疑啊。
咱们谈的就是技术，你要是觉得书里面的都对，还有什么可争的。照着练就完了，人家
也是从头开始一步步来的。
你总担心人家水平不够是个坏习惯，滑雪的话注意力应该放在自己身上是吧。
your
don
are
5级
就没
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: See, you are starting to mix things to your advantages again.
: I never said your profession books or examples were wrong. I never said your
: skiing were wrong(only that it is beginner level). I only said trying to
: equate the two was wrong. And I never tried to teach you anything, only
: tried to prove equating your skiing with text book examples are wrong. I don
: 't think you disagree.
: I am level 0. I am always learning. That is why I never ventured to impose
: my
: own skills or my judgements as the pro
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z******n
发帖数: 336 | 29 Hehe, actually there is a name for that kind of rhetoric technique, to destroy
the STRAW MAN.
your
don
are
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: See, you are starting to mix things to your advantages again.
: I never said your profession books or examples were wrong. I never said your
: skiing were wrong(only that it is beginner level). I only said trying to
: equate the two was wrong. And I never tried to teach you anything, only
: tried to prove equating your skiing with text book examples are wrong. I don
: 't think you disagree.
: I am level 0. I am always learning. That is why I never ventured to impose
: my
: own skills or my judgements as the pro
|
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 30 嘿，你这算人身威胁。。。
穿反
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 小菊别羞答答嘛，要勇敢点，你不敢说，我去帮你告诉你老婆你说和我心心相通
|
|
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 31 唉，每到这个时候，总会有跟着乱的出现，英语原来叫STRAW MAN啊，多谢指教了，哈
哈。
destroy
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Hehe, actually there is a name for that kind of rhetoric technique, to destroy
: the STRAW MAN.
:
: your
: don
: are
|
W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 32 See, here you go again.
You are the one that used the books and those extreme carving pictures to
prove your skiing can be justified by them, not me.
If you finally realize 人家也是从头开始一步步来的, not "mine is the just
like the professionals", then you are beginning to learn something. I am
really happy for you :)
BTW, I am not worried being looked down upon by you because it will take a
long while for you to be as good as I am :) When that day comes, I will
learn from you if you willing to teach. I have
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 天，我可丝毫没有看不起你的意思。你自认level0了就这么有信心，我只有崇拜的份怎
: 么敢质疑啊。
: 咱们谈的就是技术，你要是觉得书里面的都对，还有什么可争的。照着练就完了，人家
: 也是从头开始一步步来的。
: 你总担心人家水平不够是个坏习惯，滑雪的话注意力应该放在自己身上是吧。
:
: your
: don
: are
: 5级
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 33 摘要是，普通人必须要滑两年或者更长时间（也可以换成次数，或者里程 anyway）的
什么都不是，漏洞百出的雪后才可以学别的东西吧。
您说的是，不过天天为这个吵那不是太无聊了。
份怎
人家
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: See, here you go again.
: You are the one that used the books and those extreme carving pictures to
: prove your skiing can be justified by them, not me.
: If you finally realize 人家也是从头开始一步步来的, not "mine is the just
: like the professionals", then you are beginning to learn something. I am
: really happy for you :)
: BTW, I am not worried being looked down upon by you because it will take a
: long while for you to be as good as I am :) When that day comes, I will
: learn from you if you willing to teach. I have
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 34 哪一点是威胁了人身了？还是你怕老婆，不敢说和我心心相通了？
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 嘿，你这算人身威胁。。。
:
: 穿反
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 35 哎呀，那个谁谁谁也是你的马甲？我看他id还以为是男生呢。
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 哪一点是威胁了人身了？还是你怕老婆，不敢说和我心心相通了？
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 36 你老婆正在你身后看着吧？你整天在网上跟别人打情骂俏的，你老婆真的很大方，你家
百花齐放啊
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀，那个谁谁谁也是你的马甲？我看他id还以为是男生呢。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 37 哎呀呀，你怎么能污人清白。一般我都是看到男id才回帖的。莫非Yoss，Randonee还有
W012345其实都是mm？
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 你老婆正在你身后看着吧？你整天在网上跟别人打情骂俏的，你老婆真的很大方，你家
: 百花齐放啊
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 38 Exactly, admit your mistake, and move on. You will end up learning a lot
more in skiing than trying to prove your arguing skills here.
BTW, you don't need a long time to be good if you are talented and properly
trained. I know a lot of people who are way better than you are and I am
with shorter time on snow. Your videos has not shown any that impressed me yet.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 摘要是，普通人必须要滑两年或者更长时间（也可以换成次数，或者里程 anyway）的
: 什么都不是，漏洞百出的雪后才可以学别的东西吧。
: 您说的是，不过天天为这个吵那不是太无聊了。
:
: 份怎
: 人家
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 39 我的体会是知道了怎么滑的动作后还差得远呢。
因为雪场上面高点矮点，上面有冰，有雪堆都需要很强的适应能力，这些东西现在看来
除了靠时间慢慢积累外没有什么捷径。主要是害怕如果动作本身就有问题，那积累经验
要用的时间就更长了。
properly
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Exactly, admit your mistake, and move on. You will end up learning a lot
: more in skiing than trying to prove your arguing skills here.
: BTW, you don't need a long time to be good if you are talented and properly
: trained. I know a lot of people who are way better than you are and I am
: with shorter time on snow. Your videos has not shown any that impressed me yet.
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 40 水仙小菊嘛，你污我清白就不是污人清白，你说别人就不是阴阳怪气，别人指出你的就
都是污人清白，都是阴阳怪气。。。
刚才还说和我心心相通，现在又不说是了？还是又光说不练了？
你老婆都不知道你在网上跟人打情骂俏呢，唉，也难怪。。。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀呀，你怎么能污人清白。一般我都是看到男id才回帖的。莫非Yoss，Randonee还有
: W012345其实都是mm？
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 41 Good. we are finally communicating.
You may want to get some lessons from your skiing instructors, they are
trained to teach according to student levels, you will benefit tremondously
at your current level. As you get better, the instruction becomes more
subtle, and it will take longer to master more advanced techniques. To me,
learning is the most addictive part of skiing.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 我的体会是知道了怎么滑的动作后还差得远呢。
: 因为雪场上面高点矮点，上面有冰，有雪堆都需要很强的适应能力，这些东西现在看来
: 除了靠时间慢慢积累外没有什么捷径。主要是害怕如果动作本身就有问题，那积累经验
: 要用的时间就更长了。
:
: properly
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 42 这个得事实求实，你看我只和男id吵架的。
还有
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 水仙小菊嘛，你污我清白就不是污人清白，你说别人就不是阴阳怪气，别人指出你的就
: 都是污人清白，都是阴阳怪气。。。
: 刚才还说和我心心相通，现在又不说是了？还是又光说不练了？
: 你老婆都不知道你在网上跟人打情骂俏呢，唉，也难怪。。。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 43 我也觉得滑雪是项足够复杂的运动，所以才吸引人。
现在每次去我都发现一两个以前没意识到的重要细节，比如双脚位置，重心，身体高低
，身体反弓之类的东西。基本上哪个毛病改了后都有明显的好处。如果到了瓶颈区，自
己找不出毛病了，我就会找教练瞅瞅去。
而且不知道为什么，很多东西都是在那个室内场里面意识到的，可能是因为雪道太短，
有充足的时间回忆刚才的动作有什么毛病。加上大家挤在一起，有助于近距离观测强人
的技术。
tremondously
看来
经验
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: Good. we are finally communicating.
: You may want to get some lessons from your skiing instructors, they are
: trained to teach according to student levels, you will benefit tremondously
: at your current level. As you get better, the instruction becomes more
: subtle, and it will take longer to master more advanced techniques. To me,
: learning is the most addictive part of skiing.
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 44 只和男id吵架, 只和女id打情骂俏 :)
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 这个得事实求实，你看我只和男id吵架的。
:
: 还有
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 45 实话说了吧，我跟老婆说，我在挣伪币。
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: 只和男id吵架, 只和女id打情骂俏 :)
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 46 嗯，你既能在网上跟别人打情骂俏，又可以挣点伪币给你老婆，你老婆买得一点不贵
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 实话说了吧，我跟老婆说，我在挣伪币。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 47 买啥？
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，你既能在网上跟别人打情骂俏，又可以挣点伪币给你老婆，你老婆买得一点不贵
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