g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 1 滑了几次,还是绿道水平,勉强能滑蓝道。有些问题想问一下:
我是平行滑,速度比较快,路面又有连续的小包时,完全控制不住,硬撑一会儿,就注
定失去平衡。请问这是滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯?还是应该观察路,绕过那些小包?
滑了三个小时,觉得脚踝和膝盖都很累。请问高手滑完也会这样?还是没什么感觉。因
为看见你们连滑几天的,我猜应该没什么感觉,是吧?
要想从绿道,进阶到蓝道,然后黑道,哪些练习会比较有帮助? |
s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 2 Since you are a beginner, you can try to control the speed by turn shape (e.
g., J turn). Since you are talking about "平行滑", so you will need to know
how to do hockey stop. "失去平衡" - balance is the most important thing.
"滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯 ... 哪些练习会比较有帮助?" - yes, more mileage
will make you better.
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 滑了几次,还是绿道水平,勉强能滑蓝道。有些问题想问一下: : 我是平行滑,速度比较快,路面又有连续的小包时,完全控制不住,硬撑一会儿,就注 : 定失去平衡。请问这是滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯?还是应该观察路,绕过那些小包? : 滑了三个小时,觉得脚踝和膝盖都很累。请问高手滑完也会这样?还是没什么感觉。因 : 为看见你们连滑几天的,我猜应该没什么感觉,是吧? : 要想从绿道,进阶到蓝道,然后黑道,哪些练习会比较有帮助?
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 3 我可以做hockey stop, 但不熟,尤其是高速时,要一下子完全停下来,脚上控制不了。
e.
know
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : Since you are a beginner, you can try to control the speed by turn shape (e. : g., J turn). Since you are talking about "平行滑", so you will need to know : how to do hockey stop. "失去平衡" - balance is the most important thing. : "滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯 ... 哪些练习会比较有帮助?" - yes, more mileage : will make you better.
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 4 你上面说的,遇到小包就紧张,控制不住速度。滑三个小时,膝盖等就特累。这都是正常的,因为你还不会掌握平衡。
hockey stop需要二只脚一起用劲,如果学会掌握平衡,不需要特大力量就能停下来。一上来就练hockey stop,比较brutal。
我觉得初学最重要还是练习基本姿势。然后找平衡,先慢点,时间长了就会了。你每个
周末都去滑,别三天打鱼二天晒网,一年以后你说的这些就都不是问题了。
了。
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 我可以做hockey stop, 但不熟,尤其是高速时,要一下子完全停下来,脚上控制不了。 : : e. : know :
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O****e 发帖数: 3290 | 5 Hocky stop is a double blade knife. It can be an obstacle to your further
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 6 顶!养成坏毛病,今后还得改,事倍功半。
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】 : Hocky stop is a double blade knife. It can be an obstacle to your further : improvement in the future. Just keep it in mind.
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 7 ???
If you are talking about wedge turn, it is true.
LOL
I've never heard about this kind of assertion about hockey stop.
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】 : Hocky stop is a double blade knife. It can be an obstacle to your further : improvement in the future. Just keep it in mind.
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 8 What "坏毛病"???
I've never heard that Hockey Stop is a "坏毛病" ... LOL
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】 : 顶!养成坏毛病,今后还得改,事倍功半。
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 9 The actual solution of your problem is that you *have to* go back to
practice on green trails to build a solid foundation before moving to blue.
Take some ski lessons. It's hard for one to figure out the problem by him/
herself. An instructor can see your problem right away and suggest you some
solutions.
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 滑了几次,还是绿道水平,勉强能滑蓝道。有些问题想问一下: : 我是平行滑,速度比较快,路面又有连续的小包时,完全控制不住,硬撑一会儿,就注 : 定失去平衡。请问这是滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯?还是应该观察路,绕过那些小包? : 滑了三个小时,觉得脚踝和膝盖都很累。请问高手滑完也会这样?还是没什么感觉。因 : 为看见你们连滑几天的,我猜应该没什么感觉,是吧? : 要想从绿道,进阶到蓝道,然后黑道,哪些练习会比较有帮助?
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 10 hockey stop看你怎么做。我会hockey stop,但是我觉得我不会滑雪。lol。
如果身体后仰,双脚并拢,停下来不难。但这是搓雪,不是carving。要想提高,必须
要把后仰这毛病改掉。如果会了carving,停下来还是绕过去,随心所欲,不用特意去
学hockey stop。
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : What "坏毛病"??? : I've never heard that Hockey Stop is a "坏毛病" ... LOL
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 11 扯! 簡直本末倒置 Have you seen anyone who really knows Carving but does
not know Hockey Stop?
I suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by turn shape, but I did not
suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by using Hockey Stop. Since
gloomyturkey mentioned "平行滑" then "完全控制不住", I suggested Hockey Stop
so that at least s/he can *stop*.
Talking about "carving", carving is the ultimate goal that a skier wants to
achieve when skiing on a groomed trail. Hockey Stop has nothing to do with
and will never be the obstacle of Carving.
"后仰" - is one of the symptoms of backseat.
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】 : hockey stop看你怎么做。我会hockey stop,但是我觉得我不会滑雪。lol。 : 如果身体后仰,双脚并拢,停下来不难。但这是搓雪,不是carving。要想提高,必须 : 要把后仰这毛病改掉。如果会了carving,停下来还是绕过去,随心所欲,不用特意去 : 学hockey stop。
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 12 不是扯。你会打冰球吗?看来你没有经历过先会hockey stop,后学carving的过程。本
末倒置是可能的。
Stop
to
with
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : 扯! 簡直本末倒置 Have you seen anyone who really knows Carving but does : not know Hockey Stop? : I suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by turn shape, but I did not : suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by using Hockey Stop. Since : gloomyturkey mentioned "平行滑" then "完全控制不住", I suggested Hockey Stop : so that at least s/he can *stop*. : Talking about "carving", carving is the ultimate goal that a skier wants to : achieve when skiing on a groomed trail. Hockey Stop has nothing to do with : and will never be the obstacle of Carving. : "后仰" - is one of the symptoms of backseat.
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 13 哪些基本姿势是重点需要练的?刚借了盘Expert Skiing Simplified, 没看,不知道是
不是太难了。
正常的,因为你还不会掌握平衡。
。一上来就练hockey stop,比较brutal。
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】 : 你上面说的,遇到小包就紧张,控制不住速度。滑三个小时,膝盖等就特累。这都是正常的,因为你还不会掌握平衡。 : hockey stop需要二只脚一起用劲,如果学会掌握平衡,不需要特大力量就能停下来。一上来就练hockey stop,比较brutal。 : 我觉得初学最重要还是练习基本姿势。然后找平衡,先慢点,时间长了就会了。你每个 : 周末都去滑,别三天打鱼二天晒网,一年以后你说的这些就都不是问题了。 : : 了。
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 14 我可能就有你说的这个毛病,后仰/搓雪。我有滑旱冰的基础,真冰滑过,但不是太好
,勉强能hockey stop。
象你说的,我还是慢慢来吧。年龄也不小,不敢随便蛮干了。
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】 : hockey stop看你怎么做。我会hockey stop,但是我觉得我不会滑雪。lol。 : 如果身体后仰,双脚并拢,停下来不难。但这是搓雪,不是carving。要想提高,必须 : 要把后仰这毛病改掉。如果会了carving,停下来还是绕过去,随心所欲,不用特意去 : 学hockey stop。
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 15 是he, 谢谢你们的讨论/建议。很好奇在那种连续的小包,如果速度比较快,你们滑着
是什么感觉?是用快速的转动把那些绕过去,还是直接无视,就一路跳过去?
Stop
to
with
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : 扯! 簡直本末倒置 Have you seen anyone who really knows Carving but does : not know Hockey Stop? : I suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by turn shape, but I did not : suggest gloomyturkey to control the speed by using Hockey Stop. Since : gloomyturkey mentioned "平行滑" then "完全控制不住", I suggested Hockey Stop : so that at least s/he can *stop*. : Talking about "carving", carving is the ultimate goal that a skier wants to : achieve when skiing on a groomed trail. Hockey Stop has nothing to do with : and will never be the obstacle of Carving. : "后仰" - is one of the symptoms of backseat.
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 16 OK ... then I take it back. You did not "扯", for his problem is 因人而異.
No, I don't play hockey. I did ice skate on both figure skates and hockey
skates. Sure I did know how to hockey stop long before I started skiing.
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】 : 不是扯。你会打冰球吗?看来你没有经历过先会hockey stop,后学carving的过程。本 : 末倒置是可能的。 : : Stop : to : with
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 17 Since you have the background of (ice) skating, you have a good start
because your balance is better than most poeple who have never done that.
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 我可能就有你说的这个毛病,后仰/搓雪。我有滑旱冰的基础,真冰滑过,但不是太好 : ,勉强能hockey stop。 : 象你说的,我还是慢慢来吧。年龄也不小,不敢随便蛮干了。
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 18 別人怎樣偶不知道 ...
碰到包
偶則是能騎就騎過去
騎不過去就繞過去
繞不過去就停下來看看
實在沒辦法就脫下skis走過去 (then next time I know to stay away that trail)
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 是he, 谢谢你们的讨论/建议。很好奇在那种连续的小包,如果速度比较快,你们滑着 : 是什么感觉?是用快速的转动把那些绕过去,还是直接无视,就一路跳过去? : : Stop : to : with
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 19 赞:脱下ski走过去。原来高手也有走的时候。
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : 別人怎樣偶不知道 ... : 碰到包 : 偶則是能騎就騎過去 : 騎不過去就繞過去 : 繞不過去就停下來看看 : 實在沒辦法就脫下skis走過去 (then next time I know to stay away that trail)
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 20 走還沒什麼
摔都是有可能
:)
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 赞:脱下ski走过去。原来高手也有走的时候。
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k*****y 发帖数: 744 | 21 Don't lean back, lean forward so that your weight can get the skis engaged. Your stance should be the same as you are riding on a flat surface.
The problem is your confidence and fear. Since you might not be able to flatten your skis and switch to the new edges to start a new turn as you would like to do them on a steeper slope. You might try to feel how to lean into the new turn to help you switch weight. Also try to edge more to have a better feeling of control and don't avoid the small bumps, just carve onto them.
Look ahead, don't concentrate too much on what is nearby just like how you drive a car. Looking side way can help reduce your fear for beginner, but eventually you need to keep the upper body facing the fall line.
Just my 2 cents.
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 滑了几次,还是绿道水平,勉强能滑蓝道。有些问题想问一下: : 我是平行滑,速度比较快,路面又有连续的小包时,完全控制不住,硬撑一会儿,就注 : 定失去平衡。请问这是滑得太少了,多滑就会习惯?还是应该观察路,绕过那些小包? : 滑了三个小时,觉得脚踝和膝盖都很累。请问高手滑完也会这样?还是没什么感觉。因 : 为看见你们连滑几天的,我猜应该没什么感觉,是吧? : 要想从绿道,进阶到蓝道,然后黑道,哪些练习会比较有帮助?
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 22 我倒不是特别害怕,因为旱冰里的交叉步和后滑,都要身体反向送出去,做习惯了就不
怕了,觉得滑冰里的姿势只要合理的,都敢去做。身体往后靠是觉得那样可以用身体的
重量去铲雪。如果身体不后靠,那完全是改变脚的侧向去carve?
lean
a
onto
【在 k*****y 的大作中提到】 : Don't lean back, lean forward so that your weight can get the skis engaged. Your stance should be the same as you are riding on a flat surface. : The problem is your confidence and fear. Since you might not be able to flatten your skis and switch to the new edges to start a new turn as you would like to do them on a steeper slope. You might try to feel how to lean into the new turn to help you switch weight. Also try to edge more to have a better feeling of control and don't avoid the small bumps, just carve onto them. : Look ahead, don't concentrate too much on what is nearby just like how you drive a car. Looking side way can help reduce your fear for beginner, but eventually you need to keep the upper body facing the fall line. : Just my 2 cents.
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 23 Good for you. 就我个人而言,养成不好的习惯很难改。一开始没人教,自己瞎琢磨
,很快上了蓝道,以为会滑了,其实不会。基本功很差。这么多年还是滑不好,还是蓝道水平。
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : OK ... then I take it back. You did not "扯", for his problem is 因人而異. : No, I don't play hockey. I did ice skate on both figure skates and hockey : skates. Sure I did know how to hockey stop long before I started skiing.
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k*****y 发帖数: 744 | 24 如果重心不在前面,skis很可能没有压弯,于是就不能under control了。
你想刹车,只要测向让它skid一会就行了。不一定非要hockey stop一下停住。
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】 : 我倒不是特别害怕,因为旱冰里的交叉步和后滑,都要身体反向送出去,做习惯了就不 : 怕了,觉得滑冰里的姿势只要合理的,都敢去做。身体往后靠是觉得那样可以用身体的 : 重量去铲雪。如果身体不后靠,那完全是改变脚的侧向去carve? : : lean : a : onto
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 25 我现在回想起来,也是基本功不够。我的循环是这样的:
加速,转弯下坡,下几个坡之后,腿和膝盖开始觉得累了,就想减速停下来歇一下,但
是那时候在坡上也不能完全停住,就只能强行接着下,后面的转弯质量变差,速度增快
,那时候再被墩几下就不行了。
【在 k*****y 的大作中提到】 : 如果重心不在前面,skis很可能没有压弯,于是就不能under control了。 : 你想刹车,只要测向让它skid一会就行了。不一定非要hockey stop一下停住。
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E*******e 发帖数: 1371 | 26 脱ski走是绝对不应该的,除非没有雪覆盖的地方
否则只要能“走”下去的地方,都可以用类似于snowboard的falling leaf的方式蹭下去
而很多能够用ski蹭下去的地方,其实很难走的,比如太陡太滑
总之下雪坡的话,skis总是比ski boots靠谱
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】 : 別人怎樣偶不知道 ... : 碰到包 : 偶則是能騎就騎過去 : 騎不過去就繞過去 : 繞不過去就停下來看看 : 實在沒辦法就脫下skis走過去 (then next time I know to stay away that trail)
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 27 說的好
那偶告訴你是怎麼回事
到了前有亂石爛泥小溪
說說吧
偶不脫走要怎麼走?
下去
【在 E*******e 的大作中提到】 : 脱ski走是绝对不应该的,除非没有雪覆盖的地方 : 否则只要能“走”下去的地方,都可以用类似于snowboard的falling leaf的方式蹭下去 : 而很多能够用ski蹭下去的地方,其实很难走的,比如太陡太滑 : 总之下雪坡的话,skis总是比ski boots靠谱
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