d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 1 这段时间没有滑雪，担忧和困惑倒是很多。最大的一点就是感觉我的平行滑有明显的内
八字，但是为什么呢？各位大侠指点一下吧！
抱歉，没录像。 |
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 2 害怕了？
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: 这段时间没有滑雪，担忧和困惑倒是很多。最大的一点就是感觉我的平行滑有明显的内
: 八字，但是为什么呢？各位大侠指点一下吧！
: 抱歉，没录像。
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d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 3 I don't think I was afraid of the speed nor the surroundings.
I can't watch myself throughout the turns, so I am not 100% sure. But from
the ground track and limited looking down visual, I think it happens for
each leg during the transition being outside to inside. |
l***t
发帖数: 86 | |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | |
P*****s
发帖数: 263 | 6 我也有这个问题。自己瞎琢磨。转弯的时候重心是在脚后跟。换句话说，不是用toe来
turn。还没琢磨明白。 |
O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 7 还是重心转换不到位吧。最近看了一点别人拍我的录像，发觉自己时不时的也会有这个
毛病，就我个人的感受还是一些以前养成的坏毛病一遇到状况就本能地反应出来了，明
白道理是一回事，动作要练到下意识的程度，需要不断地有意识的去检查和纠正。有机
会看自己的录像，有机会跟水平比自己高的人一起滑，应该能加速这个提高的过程。
为啥今年很少滑？ |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 8 I am in Kansas on business trip, I will be back soon ;) I will let you know
what I find out :D |
R**i
发帖数: 7994 | 9 我也总有这个问题，尤其是速度慢的时候
速度快的时候就比较能同时平行 |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 10 from another forum:
山上腿变山下腿过程不熟练，pivoting不充分，可以参考下面视频。
http://www.youtube.com/v/oO0PScO60Zk |
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O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 11 哈，不错的练习。
关于八字，在某些情形下，如果能避免skidding，我觉得带点比强行并行，结果
skidding甚至摔觉要强。
两者都是重心转换或者说山上腿变山下腿不到位造成的。
关于pivoting，如果pivot得太快，板子横得太早，雪况稍微糟点，基本上guarantee
skidding.
至于如何作到到位，对各个动作时机的把握，纸上谈兵很重要but can only get you
so far. You know what I mean. Hehe.
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: from another forum:
: 山上腿变山下腿过程不熟练，pivoting不充分，可以参考下面视频。
: http://www.youtube.com/v/oO0PScO60Zk
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 12 There are some stepping stones for beginners to get to parallel turn from
wedge turn. If you have strong ice skating background, you can go directly
to parallel without learning wedge turn. For general public, the following
are two popular appoaches:
1. Wedge Turn - Wedge Christie - Open Parallel - Parallel
2. Wedge Turn - Thousand Steps (or called Stepping Turn) - Open Parallel -
Parallel
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: 这段时间没有滑雪，担忧和困惑倒是很多。最大的一点就是感觉我的平行滑有明显的内
: 八字，但是为什么呢？各位大侠指点一下吧！
: 抱歉，没录像。
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a*****n
发帖数: 5158 | 13
from another forum:
山上腿变山下腿过程不熟练，pivoting不充分，可以参考下面视频。
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: from another forum:
: 山上腿变山下腿过程不熟练，pivoting不充分，可以参考下面视频。
: http://www.youtube.com/v/oO0PScO60Zk
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a*****n
发帖数: 5158 | 14 我下陡坡的转弯的时候,山上脚有时飘起来了，怎么回事?
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: 哈，不错的练习。
: 关于八字，在某些情形下，如果能避免skidding，我觉得带点比强行并行，结果
: skidding甚至摔觉要强。
: 两者都是重心转换或者说山上腿变山下腿不到位造成的。
: 关于pivoting，如果pivot得太快，板子横得太早，雪况稍微糟点，基本上guarantee
: skidding.
: 至于如何作到到位，对各个动作时机的把握，纸上谈兵很重要but can only get you
: so far. You know what I mean. Hehe.
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 15 这个难道不是正常的吗？我看录像里教的就是这样。
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我下陡坡的转弯的时候,山上脚有时飘起来了，怎么回事?
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O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 16 怎么个飘法？看不见，很难具体评论。瞎猜一下，可能是你的重心摆得太过了。
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我下陡坡的转弯的时候,山上脚有时飘起来了，怎么回事?
|
c******7
发帖数: 2586 | 17
我个人觉得速度快了有时候会不由自主的想wedge， 绿道和蓝道上要平行多了
【在 R**i 的大作中提到】
: 我也总有这个问题，尤其是速度慢的时候
: 速度快的时候就比较能同时平行
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a*****n
发帖数: 5158 | 18 可能是这个原因,
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: 怎么个飘法？看不见，很难具体评论。瞎猜一下，可能是你的重心摆得太过了。
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 19 我看到的很多人这么滑是因为把身体重量完全放在外侧脚，而重心又不够靠前
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: 这段时间没有滑雪，担忧和困惑倒是很多。最大的一点就是感觉我的平行滑有明显的内
: 八字，但是为什么呢？各位大侠指点一下吧！
: 抱歉，没录像。
|
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 20 I actually think it could be the shift is not on time. The inside foot was
probably less than 30% engaged and at the turn, it needs to shift to over 70
. If you body goes ahead of your balance, then this could happen.
It also could be that you are at the ramp of terrain and the unevenness
could throw you off
another case that you are going really fast and the inertial pushes you (or
your leg) airborne. You can often see this at world cup GS or SG
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: 怎么个飘法？看不见，很难具体评论。瞎猜一下，可能是你的重心摆得太过了。
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d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 21 you got me, I am going on Sat, will let you know
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: 哈，不错的练习。
: 关于八字，在某些情形下，如果能避免skidding，我觉得带点比强行并行，结果
: skidding甚至摔觉要强。
: 两者都是重心转换或者说山上腿变山下腿不到位造成的。
: 关于pivoting，如果pivot得太快，板子横得太早，雪况稍微糟点，基本上guarantee
: skidding.
: 至于如何作到到位，对各个动作时机的把握，纸上谈兵很重要but can only get you
: so far. You know what I mean. Hehe.
|
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 22 what's open parallel?
on another note, I think I read somewhere that there are some skiers advocating for direct parallel, even with no exp in anything at all. I think I kinda suppose that view.
directly
following
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
: There are some stepping stones for beginners to get to parallel turn from
: wedge turn. If you have strong ice skating background, you can go directly
: to parallel without learning wedge turn. For general public, the following
: are two popular appoaches:
: 1. Wedge Turn - Wedge Christie - Open Parallel - Parallel
: 2. Wedge Turn - Thousand Steps (or called Stepping Turn) - Open Parallel -
: Parallel
|
O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 23 Great! Which resort are you going?
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: you got me, I am going on Sat, will let you know
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d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 24 I probably going to a hill 600ft vertical :D what about you? |
O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 25 Hehe, enough for some carving test. I am going to Pico mountain.
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: I probably going to a hill 600ft vertical :D what about you?
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 26 Open parallel is parallel skiing with minimal edging movement. When a
beginner skier starts learning parallel skiing, s/he won't be able to apply
edging movements in an effective way. Therefore, some skidding will be seen
in open parallel. The key point of getting into open parallel is to turn
both ski together at the same time instead of one after the other.
Yes, I mentioned that couple times about going direct parallel if the skier
has strong ice skatint background because it prevent the skier get a bad
habit from wedge turn.
advocating for direct parallel, even with no exp in anything at all. I think
I kinda suppose that view.
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: what's open parallel?
: on another note, I think I read somewhere that there are some skiers advocating for direct parallel, even with no exp in anything at all. I think I kinda suppose that view.
:
: directly
: following
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d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 27 so envy, you can go to the mountains all the time
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: Hehe, enough for some carving test. I am going to Pico mountain.
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d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 28 oh nice, so it is basically having the forms before the skiers can do
anything about it. I guess I see that a lot on the slope. Thanks.
apply
seen
skier
think
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
: Open parallel is parallel skiing with minimal edging movement. When a
: beginner skier starts learning parallel skiing, s/he won't be able to apply
: edging movements in an effective way. Therefore, some skidding will be seen
: in open parallel. The key point of getting into open parallel is to turn
: both ski together at the same time instead of one after the other.
: Yes, I mentioned that couple times about going direct parallel if the skier
: has strong ice skatint background because it prevent the skier get a bad
: habit from wedge turn.
:
: advocating for direct parallel, even with no exp in anything at all. I think
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a*****n
发帖数: 5158 | 29 Can ski with wide stance parallel turns.
这个wide stance是啥意思?
apply
seen
skier
think
【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
: Open parallel is parallel skiing with minimal edging movement. When a
: beginner skier starts learning parallel skiing, s/he won't be able to apply
: edging movements in an effective way. Therefore, some skidding will be seen
: in open parallel. The key point of getting into open parallel is to turn
: both ski together at the same time instead of one after the other.
: Yes, I mentioned that couple times about going direct parallel if the skier
: has strong ice skatint background because it prevent the skier get a bad
: habit from wedge turn.
:
: advocating for direct parallel, even with no exp in anything at all. I think
|
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 30 my understanding is that in real parallel turns have your shins (lower legs)
parallel, wide stance parallel means your skis are in parallel but your
legs are spread out, and it looks like an A from feet to pelvis |
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B*N
发帖数: 147 | 31 jluo? devilsponge? 神仙？妖怪？谢谢！
【在 d*********e 的大作中提到】
: 这段时间没有滑雪，担忧和困惑倒是很多。最大的一点就是感觉我的平行滑有明显的内
: 八字，但是为什么呢？各位大侠指点一下吧！
: 抱歉，没录像。
|
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 33 went skiing today, and it proves that it is not good to just think about
things ... |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 34 but I did seem to find what the problem is, to be confirmed tomorrow. |
d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 35 I see the inner 8 feet being a result of delayed or incomplete balance
transfer, where the inside foot took more than should be load and thus
reduced edging causing drag to ground, anny comment? |
