T***t
发帖数: 181 | 1 本人看中了一个（或一系列）环保产品，已下定决心开发后到国内生产。其中有一关键
技术，需要试验（说好听点就是研发）。本人对实验过程还算了解，打算自己搞这个技
术。整个过程可能会花费2到10万美元，主要用于材料和设备。 请问，如果我用自己个
人的钱投入，怎么操作在税收上有利？是应该先注册个公司吗？花的钱能通过某种方式
在个人所得税上抵掉一部分吗？
创业初期，花的每一分都是自己的血汗钱，况且还有失败的风险。所以能省则省，希望
大家赐教。 | t***y
发帖数: 741 | 2 operation loss of a company may be deducted in the future
【在 T***t 的大作中提到】
: 本人看中了一个（或一系列）环保产品，已下定决心开发后到国内生产。其中有一关键
: 技术，需要试验（说好听点就是研发）。本人对实验过程还算了解，打算自己搞这个技
: 术。整个过程可能会花费2到10万美元，主要用于材料和设备。 请问，如果我用自己个
: 人的钱投入，怎么操作在税收上有利？是应该先注册个公司吗？花的钱能通过某种方式
: 在个人所得税上抵掉一部分吗？
: 创业初期，花的每一分都是自己的血汗钱，况且还有失败的风险。所以能省则省，希望
: 大家赐教。
| T***t
发帖数: 181 | | t***y
发帖数: 741 | 4 Not sure what's more you are looking for. This is straightforward as my one
line answer.
Basically, all operation loss may carry over many years. The carry over
details depends on your locality and form of company, however it is
generally in the 10~20 years range, so this should not be an issue. Keep
your accounting straight, and when you file tax returns, you will have a
place on the form to state the operation loss, and carry over loss from
previous years, if this is not the first loss year. Then those losses will
be able to deduct future profit, when the company takes off.
Be sure to keep your book clean -- that does not mean you have to hire an
accountant. Just never mix personal and business up -- have official
reimbursement reports.
【在 T***t 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢答复， 能说得详细点吗？具体如何操作？
| T***t
发帖数: 181 | 5 Thank you very much for you detailed answer,Tommy.
To get future deduction (from possible profit), I will have to register a
company, then transfer my personal money to the company's account, and spend
from the company's account, right? | b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 6 我没用过，不过有startup cost可以用来抵减的。这个我不太清楚是否和Tommy说的是
一回事。lz也可以查查。 | t***y
发帖数: 741 | 7 I am not sure if you have to (never bothered to research on that one),
however you better transfer your start up funding into the company, either
as equity (shares for C/S and membership interest for LLC) or as loans. It
is much cleaner that way. Again, NEVER, I mean NEVER mix personal and biz
financials. It does not matter too much at the beginning if you have
professional bookkeeping, however do keep your books clean and straight. I
do not think IRS will audit a small, at loss startup, however it's a peace
of mind to have records. Also, do keep meeting minutes. If you do not have
formal meetings, write up unanimous consent statements in lieu of meetings,
such as the corporate agrees to take a loan from Mr. Treat (that is you!),
and sign it (that is you!).
spend
【在 T***t 的大作中提到】
: Thank you very much for you detailed answer,Tommy.
: To get future deduction (from possible profit), I will have to register a
: company, then transfer my personal money to the company's account, and spend
: from the company's account, right?
| t***y
发帖数: 741 | 8 Different. There is deduction limit on startup cost as business cost on the
return, and I forgot if the unused start up cost can carry over and deduct
in future years. However there is always other ways to structure the
corporate assets, such as use asset depreciation. In fact, IRS requires
large expenditure to be capitalized and depreciated.
What I said was if the total operation results in loss, the loss can be
carried over to to deduct against future profits.
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 我没用过，不过有startup cost可以用来抵减的。这个我不太清楚是否和Tommy说的是
: 一回事。lz也可以查查。
| T***t
发帖数: 181 | 9 Many thanks for the explanation and clarification. I feel more assured to go
forward. You guys just boosted my confidence, and that is what I need most
at this stage! | t***y
发帖数: 741 | 10 谢谢包子。给的答复不一定专业，仅供参考。我也是刚单干，前面自己看了很多东西，
属于民科。：）创业不容易，大家相互帮忙吧。
go
most
【在 T***t 的大作中提到】
: Many thanks for the explanation and clarification. I feel more assured to go
: forward. You guys just boosted my confidence, and that is what I need most
: at this stage!
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