o*********n
发帖数: 706 | 1 我知道要选好stop loss不是个容易的事情，我做TNA和TZA时，一般选取4%作为
trailing stop loss的点，但连续2次都是股票在刚触发了止损点之后马上就开始反弹
，今天TZA又被knock out了，不过股票在触发之后又继续跌了1%，如果我再买回来的话
，和没设stop loss相比，相当于赚了1%，但各位在stop loss激发后通常会买回来吗？
另外对于TNA，TZA这样volatility比较大的股票，trailing stop loss选多少比较合适
呢？我连续两次触发止损点之后，马上就反弹，总觉得设的可能不合理。
其实我一开始没设stop loss的时候，随着上一波大涨，赚了25%左右，之后听说设stop
loss是principle，但自从设stop loss开始，被触发好几次，短短两周，又赔进去8%
，是不是我stop loss应该设得再宽松一点？比如10%啥的？ |
g*****u
发帖数: 14294 | 2 被knock out没关系，
被knock up有关系。
stop loss也一个道理，要么用Plan B立即小代价解决问题，要么四五，等个一年半载看有人收养不。 |
a**1
发帖数: 213 | 3 stop loss是高级技巧，大牛说要设在支撑下面一点。哪里是支撑只有大牛知道。
捂帮不设。只average down.
首先要想好是否AD，如果不想AD，最开始就不要买。TraderRex说的，首先要想好是否
会加仓这只股票，如果否，就不要买。这需要见识和眼力。就是选股。开始时跟真正大
牛，有经验了之后在单练。 |
l*******r
发帖数: 3799 | 4 (1) If you look at the historical price of a stock, you can find that the
it forms a various of pattern, e.g. triangle, channel, double top or so.
When you look at a stock's recent price moving, you may have an estimation
that what kind of pattern it will most probably form. Based on this
estimation, you set a stop accordingly. Set a stop so that when it is
touched, your estimated formation will be broken.
(2) After you get a stop price, estimate how much loss you can afford in
this trade ( |
g*****u
发帖数: 14294 | 5 Speaking of TraderRex, what's he been up to?
【在 a**1 的大作中提到】
: stop loss是高级技巧，大牛说要设在支撑下面一点。哪里是支撑只有大牛知道。
: 捂帮不设。只average down.
: 首先要想好是否AD，如果不想AD，最开始就不要买。TraderRex说的，首先要想好是否
: 会加仓这只股票，如果否，就不要买。这需要见识和眼力。就是选股。开始时跟真正大
: 牛，有经验了之后在单练。
|
S*********N
发帖数: 6151 | 6
stop
it is case by case.
depending on the momentum and your risk tolerance.
【在 o*********n 的大作中提到】
: 我知道要选好stop loss不是个容易的事情，我做TNA和TZA时，一般选取4%作为
: trailing stop loss的点，但连续2次都是股票在刚触发了止损点之后马上就开始反弹
: ，今天TZA又被knock out了，不过股票在触发之后又继续跌了1%，如果我再买回来的话
: ，和没设stop loss相比，相当于赚了1%，但各位在stop loss激发后通常会买回来吗？
: 另外对于TNA，TZA这样volatility比较大的股票，trailing stop loss选多少比较合适
: 呢？我连续两次触发止损点之后，马上就反弹，总觉得设的可能不合理。
: 其实我一开始没设stop loss的时候，随着上一波大涨，赚了25%左右，之后听说设stop
: loss是principle，但自从设stop loss开始，被触发好几次，短短两周，又赔进去8%
: ，是不是我stop loss应该设得再宽松一点？比如10%啥的？
|
o*********n
发帖数: 706 | 7 Thank you for your reply!
I also heard that the stop loss can be chosen based on the pattern of stock,
support and resistance of stock. Does it work if the stock is ETF based on
the index such as TNA and TZA? Since I think the support and resistance of
stock for index is not as useful as a single stock.
you
trade
【在 l*******r 的大作中提到】
: (1) If you look at the historical price of a stock, you can find that the
: it forms a various of pattern, e.g. triangle, channel, double top or so.
: When you look at a stock's recent price moving, you may have an estimation
: that what kind of pattern it will most probably form. Based on this
: estimation, you set a stop accordingly. Set a stop so that when it is
: touched, your estimated formation will be broken.
: (2) After you get a stop price, estimate how much loss you can afford in
: this trade (
|
o*********n
发帖数: 706 | 8 Thank you for your reply!
I also heard that the stop loss can be chosen based on the pattern of stock,
support and resistance of stock. Does it work if the stock is ETF based on
the index such as TNA and TZA? Since I think the support and resistance of
stock for index is not as useful as a single stock.
you
trade
【在 l*******r 的大作中提到】
: (1) If you look at the historical price of a stock, you can find that the
: it forms a various of pattern, e.g. triangle, channel, double top or so.
: When you look at a stock's recent price moving, you may have an estimation
: that what kind of pattern it will most probably form. Based on this
: estimation, you set a stop accordingly. Set a stop so that when it is
: touched, your estimated formation will be broken.
: (2) After you get a stop price, estimate how much loss you can afford in
: this trade (
|
r***k
发帖数: 13586 | 9 恩，中短线止损主要的意义是当趋势改变时及时出场。高手止损不需要拘泥于涨落的绝
对值，根据走势形态即可判断趋势是否转向。长线止损则是因为股票的基本面发生重大
变化，这种时候应该根据基本面消息止损，忽略股价的变动。 |
c***m
发帖数: 2630 | 10 thanks. what about the spy option? what is the relationship between spy and
its put?
1:3 scale?
you
trade
【在 l*******r 的大作中提到】
: (1) If you look at the historical price of a stock, you can find that the
: it forms a various of pattern, e.g. triangle, channel, double top or so.
: When you look at a stock's recent price moving, you may have an estimation
: that what kind of pattern it will most probably form. Based on this
: estimation, you set a stop accordingly. Set a stop so that when it is
: touched, your estimated formation will be broken.
: (2) After you get a stop price, estimate how much loss you can afford in
: this trade (
|
c***m
发帖数: 2630 | 11 lili:
what is the support level for spy? |
l*******r
发帖数: 3799 | 12 It is daily rebalanced, so the resistance/support of TNA/TZA does not wrok.
But you can check the underlying
index ($RUT), and trade accordingly.
stock,
on
【在 o*********n 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for your reply!
: I also heard that the stop loss can be chosen based on the pattern of stock,
: support and resistance of stock. Does it work if the stock is ETF based on
: the index such as TNA and TZA? Since I think the support and resistance of
: stock for index is not as useful as a single stock.
:
: you
: trade
|
l*******r
发帖数: 3799 | 13 definitely 1150.
But SPY is a little bit difficult to trade based on these horizontal support
. Look back in last year, in every
correction, the index dip below the previous high. I guess if you set a
stop @ 1150, you will most probably be
stopped out prematurely.
So, I don't know how to do with SPY.
【在 c***m 的大作中提到】
: lili:
: what is the support level for spy?
|
r******o
发帖数: 1530 | 14 我建议你把图画出来，pattern, support/resistence, channel的线一标，把自己stop
loss的地方画个圈，你看看自己的stop loss都在什么点位被激发了，我就是这样找了
一下，很有用处，发现自己大多数情况是在pattern还在develop的时候，几个关键的点
位被激发，从此，学会了耐心。
其实，你要这样想，这是有好处的，总比套牢了好，少赚要比亏好。 |
