k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 1 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。
要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵
别再整到10大去了。
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g***e 发帖数: 1256 | 3 please make another post when you sell it.
Thanks thanks thanks........
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。 : 要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵 : 别再整到10大去了。 : 去睡觉了,下周再说。
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n********g 发帖数: 190 | 4 油工不能睡觉啊,NOK现在风口浪尖,要实时指导青蛙 |
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g***o 发帖数: 196 | 6 没钱,不跟了
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。 : 要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵 : 别再整到10大去了。 : 去睡觉了,下周再说。
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G*******1 发帖数: 6411 | 10 油工说说怎么把心脏练得肥大
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。 : 要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵 : 别再整到10大去了。 : 去睡觉了,下周再说。
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k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 11
铁人三项
憨吃酣睡
【在 G*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 油工说说怎么把心脏练得肥大
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a****b 发帖数: 3588 | 12 上十大
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。 : 要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵 : 别再整到10大去了。 : 去睡觉了,下周再说。
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G*******1 发帖数: 6411 | 13 这个太难了。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 铁人三项 : 憨吃酣睡
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h**********9 发帖数: 3252 | |
k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 16
新闻出来了,Elop卖光了微软股票反手买了15万股在9.1附近(根据前天和昨天价格推算)
另外,Elop 和微软正在准备跟对手打价格战,从cheaper smartphone 入手,因为全球将有70亿的低价位移动互联
网智能手机需求(根据Elop上周在巴塞罗那发表言论)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/18/us-nokia-ceo-idUSTRE7
一些技术上的问答
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/02/18/nokia-ceo-off
partner=yahootix
摘要部分来自巴塞罗那的评论文章
http://seekingalpha.com/article/253765-takeaways-from-mobile-wo
A broader discussion I had with my Microsoft contact and several others was whether mobile users will stay with Apps
or move to Browsing. Apps make sense for tasks. If you know where you want to go, or what you want to buy, apps are
great today. Furthermore, people are creatures of habit. The more they get used to apps, especially fanatically loyal
Apple iPhone users, the more it becomes ingrained by a larger-and-larger user base. So, while intuitively it makes
sense to browse the web on your smart phone, just like you do on a laptop or PC, this transition to browsing may take
longer than expected. Two factors that may accelerate the adoption of browsing on smart phones are 1) the pace of
improvement in smart phone operating systems that improve the browsing experience, and 2) Apple's proprietary
ecosystem, which together could drive users toward browser-based Google and Microsoft operating systems.
While I think Apple is a great stock today, many smart people at the show concurred that Apple's iPhone will lose
market share not only to Google's Android (which has happened already), but to Microsoft too. Apple has two strikes
working against it: 1) Apple charges 30% commission on many apps, and are angering major media customers, who
are already moving to Android platforms after their most recent flack with Apple; 2) Apple has a semi-proprietary supply
chain, which over time leads to a less competitive cost structure (versus off-the-shelf components from the rest of the
industry), forcing Apple to charge premium prices with lower market penetration.
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Matt Rosoff, On Friday February 18, 2011, 5:51 pm EST
Nokia CEO Stephen Elop said he has sold all his remaining Microsoft shares yesterday and purchased 150,000 shares
of Nokia, according to Reuters.
Elop joined Nokia from Microsoft in October, and according to Daily Finance, he had more than 130,000 shares worth
more than $3 million. His holdings caused some speculation that he was actually a "Trojan horse" planted by Microsoft
to secure the world's largest phone maker as a partner for Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 platform, which launched in
November. Elop also considered switching Nokia to Google's Android OS, but chose Microsoft's platform in the end.
The sale has not been recorded with the SEC yet.
Elop mentioned the sale in a meeting with Finnish journalists. He also predicted that prices of Windows Phone
hardware would drop quickly, claiming that he received some concessions from Microsoft to help get hardware prices
down.
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【在 n********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 油工不能睡觉啊,NOK现在风口浪尖,要实时指导青蛙
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c**t 发帖数: 9197 | 17 9.1x seems resistance.
but ge gu is hard to predict. |
K********g 发帖数: 9389 | 18 我日,原来从9.11突然上9.2是被你搞上去的哦。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 短线操作。。别跟了,大周五的,风险很大。 : 要是被套,俺就死捂放长线了。。。呵呵 : 别再整到10大去了。 : 去睡觉了,下周再说。
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k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 19
牛二兄弟,那时候俺在睡梦中啊!
呵呵,还在明尼苏达?
【在 K********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我日,原来从9.11突然上9.2是被你搞上去的哦。
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J***9 发帖数: 576 | 20 师傅,看见你重新进了nokia, 好开心!好放心!
你信箱满了,清一下好么 |
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k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 21 Pre-Market Volume: 2,046,437 Pre-Market Low: $ 9.11
Learn more about the Pre-Market trading session.
Trade Detail
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这就是为何俺开盘就上nok而且安心去睡觉的原因 |
m**o 发帖数: 5261 | |
k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 23
忙着挖油,没来得及写。呵呵
【在 m**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 油工大牛的葵花宝典什麽时候能完成,盼
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S*********0 发帖数: 214 | 25 蘸着油写,边打油边写,学习工作两不误...呵呵 |
m**o 发帖数: 5261 | |
d******0 发帖数: 22800 | 27 偶9.05进的,都懊悔,觉得买贵了。你一口气吃进这么多,大盘砸下来的时候,可是要
小心啊。偶是新手,但是觉得NOK还能掉下来不少,8.10进可以,哈哈。 |
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k********n 发帖数: 18523 | 29
一些最新发展动态和数据
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/02/nokia-microsoft-part
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-16/microsoft-phone-sees-b
nokia.html
诺基亚和微软打造终极系统
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/02/windows-phone-7-posi
转贴些信息供大家研究。不作为投资参考。
Top 10 why NOK+MSFT=$$$ 18-Feb-11 09:17 am
160;
Top reasons why WP7 / NOK will eventually own 34% of the world's market.
Educate!
1) People are addicted to the best software, what makes the best soft, a
component market, one WP7 already has.
[Bing: "silverlight components" for your proof of the market within the
market] Signs of things to come. More developers
know Silverlight than anything else. The development tools are the best, MS
is fostering the app world the best, WP7
will reach 500K apps faster than apple and android. By November, expect
close to 300K apps. Impressive apps are
being built in just weeks. Exercise [YouTube "Silverlight Windows Phone 7"
for thousands of examples.]
2) You might not know this, "Windows Phone 7 grows faster than Android at
Launch", link taken straight from the word
of Android. [http://androidheadlines.com/2010/12/shoc...]
3) MS has aligned with ARM/Nvidia/QualComm/TI. NOK will benefit from this
alignment along with Microsoft. Mobile
devices and Windows technology will exist heavily in the near future.
[read http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press... and then bing search more on this topic]
4) Microsoft's Ecosystem dwarfs all others. Microsoft is literally a small
solar system at the center of the galaxy
representing the size of their ecosystem. Markets within markets within
markets, within markets revolve around
Microsoft. The total Marketcap of all companies tied to MS technology is
absolutely mind boggling. [review
https://partner.microsoft.com/US/3000010... which is a huge site, but just a
tiny fraction of the total ecosystem,
especially if you consider everyone using Word/Excel/Powerpoint/SqlServer/
IIS/etc, etc]
5) MS is putting tons of resource into WP7 as it will be the catalyst to
BING's search engine becoming a money-for-
nothing scenario. NOK is getting paid to use a system they would have
eventually migrated to. NOK will bud into the
tablet PC market with a cost advantage. "Microsoft is going to spend $9b in
total R&D this year and last year’s
Windows Mobile OPEX was $0.9B (R&D, sales and marketing) so I expect this
year’s OPEX to be around $1.4B." This
was written in March when it was announced MS was spending 1 billion in WP7.
Plus NOK deal + ARM deal = money,
plus (millions of developers + plus ease of development = massive app growth
), plus superior hardware, plus celeb
advertising$ = SMASH HIT.
6) The NOK/MSFT venture has been in the works for years. Hardware will
result shortly. [read
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclu... and then notice all the comments on bottom of page, that's called buzz.]
7) Naveq + Bing is a world class force. http://wmpoweruser.com/nokias-navteq-tal...
8) XBoxLive is a huge gaming platform. At any one time a million could be
playing. Love Call of Duty! MS has made
making games for WP7 and making these games live, very easy. Why play a game
on your phone against a stupid ai,
that's so ancient, play against other humans, nothing is more fun. http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/...
9) Go use a WP7 phone for a few days. Samsung Focus is nice. It really makes
all other OSs look outdated and basic.
After using a WP7 phone for a few days, your impression of other phone OSs
is ruined. Sure there's a few things
missing, but coming soon. I love this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUO51jMGi...
10) I'd hate to be in a room with two aggravated and wounded 900lbs Gorillas
protecting their young. MS is top in the
world with OS expertise. NOK is top in the world in manufacturing phones/
networks. These giants are wounded and
motivated to cause havoc. There is no doubt they will thrive.
【在 d******0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 偶9.05进的,都懊悔,觉得买贵了。你一口气吃进这么多,大盘砸下来的时候,可是要 : 小心啊。偶是新手,但是觉得NOK还能掉下来不少,8.10进可以,哈哈。
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t****g 发帖数: 3434 | 30 不是每个人都玩得起的。
起码要账户大。 买它个七到十只这样的股,有两三只咸鱼翻身,就赚了。
没有翻身的,继续捂, 又会有两三只翻身。 至少出水。
剩下一两只沉没,就算机会成本。即使是沉没, 也是泰坦尼克号级别的。 概率小。油
工水平高,早就找到小快艇跑路。还有, 破航母也能捡到几吨钉子。 |
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l******n 发帖数: 152 | 32 请问油工哪里能看到pre-market 的交易volume?
自己的交易软件吗?
小蝌蚪发问,上帝不要笑我!
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Pre-Market Volume: 2,046,437 Pre-Market Low: $ 9.11 : Learn more about the Pre-Market trading session. : Trade Detail : Pre-Market : Time (ET) Pre-Market : Price Pre-Market : Share Volume : 09:16 $ 9.15 100 : 09:16 $ 9.15 800 : 09:15 $ 9.15 100
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c********g 发帖数: 1173 | 33 你是大牛,我相信你能从这个transaction中挣到钱。但我认为你所引用的这些信息有
很严重的bias,不适合作为投资参
考(see my comments inline)。我还是认为,在NOK/MSFT表现出实实在在的
improvement之前,这些都是
speculation,不能轻易相信。如果作为长期hold,NOK不是个好candidate。
MS
WP7 software is far from the "best soft". Almost all serious tech/gadget
review sites have the same
conclusion. Compare to Java and Objective C, actually very little developers
know about silberlight. The
faster growth of WP7 software 是因为有前面Apple和Android铺好了路。
Again, this is just at launch. Anything new could have a boost. Let's look
it back after a year.
well, that's all from Microsoft itself.
a
Actually msft's ecosystem IS dwarfed by others. Sure windows applications
have been around for a very
long time, but it's never a ecosystem. The most important part is, almost
all of them have nothing to do
with mobile.
in
More investment doesn't equal success -- specially for msft. remember live.
com? msn.com?
that's called buzz.]
Again, it's not there yet.
Let's see.
game
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/...
Xbox is not bad at all. Probably one of the best product from msft in recent
years. But I don't see it
dominating the game platform. PS3 and iPad are both strong, if not stronger
makes
Well, consumers vote with their money.
Gorillas
Two top players don't always make a top pair. Not mention that both of them
are used-to-be-top, and on
the down trend for years.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 一些最新发展动态和数据 : http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/02/nokia-microsoft-part : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-16/microsoft-phone-sees-b : nokia.html : 诺基亚和微软打造终极系统 : http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/02/windows-phone-7-posi : 转贴些信息供大家研究。不作为投资参考。 : Top 10 why NOK+MSFT=$$$ 18-Feb-11 09:17 am : 160;
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c****a 发帖数: 546 | 34 出手真大。没有二十万以上的钱,俺学不了。
换我,顶多派上个两三千打打先锋。
不过,个人认为NOK不好说 |
O****8 发帖数: 514 | 35 这条小蝌蚪非常勤奋,假以时日必定。。。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 请问油工哪里能看到pre-market 的交易volume? : 自己的交易软件吗? : 小蝌蚪发问,上帝不要笑我!
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