H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 1 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25 | r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 2 你这个买法， AAPL要是猪在375， 就送钱了。
明天aaple只要开在390以上，你就不会亏了吧？
我这样的小农肯定是那个赚钱卖哪个，亏的就捂捂看。不过option过期太快，你别听我
的。问问土豆姐，村长大叔。 | H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 3 Thanks.
土豆姐? 村长大叔?
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: 你这个买法， AAPL要是猪在375， 就送钱了。
: 明天aaple只要开在390以上，你就不会亏了吧？
: 我这样的小农肯定是那个赚钱卖哪个，亏的就捂捂看。不过option过期太快，你别听我
: 的。问问土豆姐，村长大叔。
| G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 4 卖一个call回本,其它的让它奔一奔,AAPL如果明天不疲软的话这个星期能上420, 短期到450的可能也不小
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
| r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 5 除非开盘就400以上，不然卖一个call很难回本。
期到450的可能也不小
【在 G*******s 的大作中提到】
: 卖一个call回本,其它的让它奔一奔,AAPL如果明天不疲软的话这个星期能上420, 短期到450的可能也不小
| a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 6 我也是两个CALL两个PUT，8月的
看看明天大涨的话先赶紧割掉PUT，留着CALL接着涨？
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
| d*****1
发帖数: 407 | 7
这种睹法不行
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
| b******u
发帖数: 3215 | | H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 9 Why? I made money through this way in goog calls/puts.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Stock/33658285.html
请指点?
【在 d*****1 的大作中提到】
:
: 这种睹法不行
| H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 10 Not 行为艺术 at all. I think I learned to play options in this way here or
some other web sites. To buy calls/puts at the same time, no matter the
price goes up or down, as if there is a big percentage price change, I will
make money. And stock's price is expected to have bigger price change around
ER time.
I buy call/put at $180/$170, $185/$165, in order to watch different results
with different buying prices.
请指点?
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: 你这是什么spread?行为艺术？
| | | b******u
发帖数: 3215 | 11 你为何不把call和put都坐在on the money
岂不是风险最小？
这样你也不用考虑vertical skew了
will
around
results
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: Not 行为艺术 at all. I think I learned to play options in this way here or
: some other web sites. To buy calls/puts at the same time, no matter the
: price goes up or down, as if there is a big percentage price change, I will
: make money. And stock's price is expected to have bigger price change around
: ER time.
: I buy call/put at $180/$170, $185/$165, in order to watch different results
: with different buying prices.
: 请指点?
| H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 12 yeah, should narrow down the call/put scope, "on the money" might be a
better choice though they are more expensive, less lost when the stock price
does not change much.
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: 你为何不把call和put都坐在on the money
: 岂不是风险最小？
: 这样你也不用考虑vertical skew了
:
: will
: around
: results
| a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 13 你的call put卖了吗？
price
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: yeah, should narrow down the call/put scope, "on the money" might be a
: better choice though they are more expensive, less lost when the stock price
: does not change much.
| H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 14 7/20/2011, market price around $395
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
I still keep 380/370 call/put. :)
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 你的call put卖了吗？
:
: price
| p****a
发帖数: 4829 | 15 Did you make money or lose moneny?
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: I still keep 380/370 call/put. :)
| H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 16 full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
7/20/2011, market price around $395
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
total income: $1546.46
exclude transaction fee: $1563
AAPL: around $376 --> around $395, +$19, +5.05%
including transaction fees: -$410.04, -21%
excluding transaction fees: -$377, -19.43%
Lesson I got:
1. should narrow down the scope, (+- 2% should be more than enough) when
the price does not expect to change much.
2. The next day after ER, when the market opens, if I am not sure how
the price will continually go, sell the option made money as soon as
possible, lock the profit. | c*********o
发帖数: 8367 | 17 straggle is hard to make money........ah..
exclude
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563
| r******o
发帖数: 1530 | 18 VOL crash..
before ER vol is high, especially for puts, long Vega kills you
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563
| z********e
发帖数: 8818 | 19 one more experience, still cong! | s********s
发帖数: 3945 | 20 Thanks a lot for sharing the lessons.
Good luck.
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563
| r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 21 Buying before ER and selling after ER, unless the price can jump/dive more
than 5%, you won't gain from your call/put straddle overall. If move only by
1~2%, both call and put will lose money. Using smaller gap between put and
call strikes will reduce the loss a little (if there is a loss), but it will
also reduce your gain (if there is a gain)
Last week, Goog moved more than 10%, that brings big profit. AAPL only moved
2~5%, so lose money.
Selling them ASAP after market open, I don't know about this.... Yesterday,
LZ sold WYNN call/put 30 second after market open and made money, but if
orders failed, maybe just 15s later, WYNN call/put started losing money. I
really don't think, for 99.9 Sanhu, any trading should rely on this type of
"skill" or "luck"....
【在 H******e 的大作中提到】
: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563
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