w****a
发帖数: 452 | 1 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
拍！ |
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 2 6 month performance is pure luck, doesn't matter it's 10% plus or minus.
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
H**********1
发帖数: 3056 | |
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 4 初学半年能赚10%很牛了吧。本青蛙学了半年到现在也就只有3%的盈利。当然，之前没
有概念，前4个月亏了15%。后来两个月扳回到3%。我还觉得我学得挺快的。和你比我就
是个loser。
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
r*****t
发帖数: 7278 | 5 散户炒股不如出租房子
两万在houston就可以买个小condo出租了 一个月稳拿250的纯利润 |
s*****n
发帖数: 5488 | 6 就冲你这个得瑟劲。算吧。10%的收益哎。先喝几口海水，几年后再看吧。
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
s*****n
发帖数: 5488 | 7 尼玛，这是15%的年收益率。有这种好事？
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 散户炒股不如出租房子
: 两万在houston就可以买个小condo出租了 一个月稳拿250的纯利润
|
m*****i
发帖数: 4342 | 8 我怎么感觉是在BSO啊!
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
s**********o
发帖数: 14359 | 9 确实很BLOODY
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 我怎么感觉是在BSO啊!
|
m*****i
发帖数: 4342 | 10 I heard you had to do lots of repair when you rented to Mexican.
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 散户炒股不如出租房子
: 两万在houston就可以买个小condo出租了 一个月稳拿250的纯利润
|
|
|
H**********1
发帖数: 3056 | 11 两万在houston就可以买个小condo,kao
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 散户炒股不如出租房子
: 两万在houston就可以买个小condo出租了 一个月稳拿250的纯利润
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 12 You can try, and see if you will get rich, hehe
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 散户炒股不如出租房子
: 两万在houston就可以买个小condo出租了 一个月稳拿250的纯利润
|
t****9
发帖数: 4491 | 13 re
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: 6 month performance is pure luck, doesn't matter it's 10% plus or minus.
|
w***n
发帖数: 1519 | 14 太牛了，半年10%，4年翻一番，40年就是一千多倍！以后要是技艺更上一层楼了，八千
多倍也都可能。这得是什么样的机缘巧合啊？仙姑指点，还是羊肚子里有盗魔经
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
w****a
发帖数: 452 | 15 真的没有BSO.我是看板上牛人太多。动不动就几十万的。我这个是小本生意。只是对赚
多少没有什么概念。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 我怎么感觉是在BSO啊!
|
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 16 蓝螃蟹哪看得上这点回报率。人家卖put卖call赚钱轻松得很。
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: You can try, and see if you will get rich, hehe
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 17 I don't think there is anyone on this board made much money playing option,
just like I don't think anybody made much money playing gold here. Hehe
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】
: 蓝螃蟹哪看得上这点回报率。人家卖put卖call赚钱轻松得很。
|
w****a
发帖数: 452 | |
y***n
发帖数: 2806 | 19 取决于你投入多少精力。你如果天天跟盘，时时看盘，然后还牺牲下班时间分析大盘，
个股。那就比较划不来了。除非你准备把这个当成自己的事业。
我有时在赌场很有你这种感触。奋斗一天，小心谨慎，各种计算，出一脑门汗，然后看
着桌面上那两三百块筹码，感觉比上班还累，赚的还少。然后加大赌注，筹码全没了，
回家。
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
t*****e
发帖数: 2228 | 20 说得太对了，其实现在市场动荡很大，很多股票短期内都有10-20%的波动，虽然LZ攥得
很多，但我觉得还是偏投机吧。而且谁也不能保证下一把肯定赚阿，统计害死人阿。。
【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 取决于你投入多少精力。你如果天天跟盘，时时看盘，然后还牺牲下班时间分析大盘，
: 个股。那就比较划不来了。除非你准备把这个当成自己的事业。
: 我有时在赌场很有你这种感触。奋斗一天，小心谨慎，各种计算，出一脑门汗，然后看
: 着桌面上那两三百块筹码，感觉比上班还累，赚的还少。然后加大赌注，筹码全没了，
: 回家。
|
|
|
x*******0
发帖数: 2439 | 21 我靠， 我从去年到现在亏费了 down 15% |
r*****e
发帖数: 4611 | |
s****0
发帖数: 894 | 23 我也是零基础，一个月钱投资2k刀觉得没钱赚后在月中加码到12k，到现在也就挣个1.
4k。 |
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 24 I usually judge someone's investment talent by looking at his/her 3-year
compound return rate minimum. I would prefer to look at a 5-year period,
because that time frame will probably show some staying power of that person
.
If he/she is a phony, that person will either have given up or wiped out by
then. If that person is good, he/she will most likely be well off already.
So ask yourself, do you have 5 years of investment experience? Are you a
millionnaire already? If your answer to either of the question is no, then
whatever money you made from the stock market is just pure luck. If your
first answer is yes and your second is no, then I'd suggest you give up
stock and do sth else.
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 什么时候才不算随机波动呢？
|
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 25 I don't think this is true for day trader. If a day trader makes steady
small profits in one year, that should be a solid evidence for his/her
performance. Anyway, trading frequency matters, and whether your profit is
due to a small number of big gains also matters. But I do agree that the
number of years of experience matters in its absolute value as well since
one needs to experience a full set of market conditions.
person
by
.
then
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I usually judge someone's investment talent by looking at his/her 3-year
: compound return rate minimum. I would prefer to look at a 5-year period,
: because that time frame will probably show some staying power of that person
: .
: If he/she is a phony, that person will either have given up or wiped out by
: then. If that person is good, he/she will most likely be well off already.
:
: So ask yourself, do you have 5 years of investment experience? Are you a
: millionnaire already? If your answer to either of the question is no, then
: whatever money you made from the stock market is just pure luck. If your
|
c******m
发帖数: 491 | 26 说得真好。
我觉得如果不是职业炒股， 就不要花那么多经历。 每天花半小时， 看看大盘， 和自
己比较熟悉的股票。 看准了在入。
我曾经玩blackjack， 每把5元， 好不容易赢了50， 心一横， 立刻倒输50.
【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 取决于你投入多少精力。你如果天天跟盘，时时看盘，然后还牺牲下班时间分析大盘，
: 个股。那就比较划不来了。除非你准备把这个当成自己的事业。
: 我有时在赌场很有你这种感触。奋斗一天，小心谨慎，各种计算，出一脑门汗，然后看
: 着桌面上那两三百块筹码，感觉比上班还累，赚的还少。然后加大赌注，筹码全没了，
: 回家。
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 27 Obviously you don't know anyone who is a trader, and your answers to my
questions are most likely 2 nos. hehe
Typical newbie mentality. Hehe
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】
: I don't think this is true for day trader. If a day trader makes steady
: small profits in one year, that should be a solid evidence for his/her
: performance. Anyway, trading frequency matters, and whether your profit is
: due to a small number of big gains also matters. But I do agree that the
: number of years of experience matters in its absolute value as well since
: one needs to experience a full set of market conditions.
:
: person
: by
: .
|
w****a
发帖数: 452 | 28 谢谢啊，我大概前前后后有十只股票，7只很好，3个很挫。中和下来，亏的那些我一卖
买上就涨，没忍过来。 |
w****a
发帖数: 452 | 29 对对对。就是这种感觉，辛辛苦苦，有钱赚就是不多，跟农民一样；可是稍不注意就输
很惨！
【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 取决于你投入多少精力。你如果天天跟盘，时时看盘，然后还牺牲下班时间分析大盘，
: 个股。那就比较划不来了。除非你准备把这个当成自己的事业。
: 我有时在赌场很有你这种感触。奋斗一天，小心谨慎，各种计算，出一脑门汗，然后看
: 着桌面上那两三百块筹码，感觉比上班还累，赚的还少。然后加大赌注，筹码全没了，
: 回家。
|
w****a
发帖数: 452 | 30 1 million????omg how much money should you use to start the trading to
achieve 1 million in 5 years?
person
by
.
then
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I usually judge someone's investment talent by looking at his/her 3-year
: compound return rate minimum. I would prefer to look at a 5-year period,
: because that time frame will probably show some staying power of that person
: .
: If he/she is a phony, that person will either have given up or wiped out by
: then. If that person is good, he/she will most likely be well off already.
:
: So ask yourself, do you have 5 years of investment experience? Are you a
: millionnaire already? If your answer to either of the question is no, then
: whatever money you made from the stock market is just pure luck. If your
|
|
|
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 31 I do know a day trader who earned 4 million from scratch. He has been
trading for 15 years. Had consistant 45% gain per year for 6 years. The
comment I made was given by him. Now what do you think.
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: Obviously you don't know anyone who is a trader, and your answers to my
: questions are most likely 2 nos. hehe
: Typical newbie mentality. Hehe
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 32 You don't need a lot of money to start. Because investment is compound
return, unlike your salary. Your second half million will be a lot faster
than your first half.
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 1 million????omg how much money should you use to start the trading to
: achieve 1 million in 5 years?
:
: person
: by
: .
: then
|
s*****n
发帖数: 5488 | 33 Gary smith. broken even trader for 19 years. Then, he had only 2 losing
months in next 19 years. No record after 2000 but looks like he is still a
junk bond guru in 2010 online, so he must still trade well after the big
bull bubble burst. (on the contrariety, Tony Oz, a stock trading book writer
, became a real estate agent and dare not come back to this bloody market
after 2000 bubble)
I can say that this guy definitely did not trading for live based on his
luck.
person
by
.
then
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I usually judge someone's investment talent by looking at his/her 3-year
: compound return rate minimum. I would prefer to look at a 5-year period,
: because that time frame will probably show some staying power of that person
: .
: If he/she is a phony, that person will either have given up or wiped out by
: then. If that person is good, he/she will most likely be well off already.
:
: So ask yourself, do you have 5 years of investment experience? Are you a
: millionnaire already? If your answer to either of the question is no, then
: whatever money you made from the stock market is just pure luck. If your
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 34 1. Try to repeat that yourself and then talk to me.
2. I still think your answers to my questions are 2 nos. hehe
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】
: I do know a day trader who earned 4 million from scratch. He has been
: trading for 15 years. Had consistant 45% gain per year for 6 years. The
: comment I made was given by him. Now what do you think.
|
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 35 I am new, as I have said in other articles here. I only started half a year
ago, and I do not have a big account. But that does not mean I cannot
comment on your remark. I just do not give trading advice since I do not
have any.
But anyway, a trader fights battle on his own. These comments do not mean
anything at the end of the day. Fortunately, I can seek advice from that
trader I mentioned on MSN since he is a close friend of mine. I myself still
lose frequently. I am not going to hide that fact here.
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: 1. Try to repeat that yourself and then talk to me.
: 2. I still think your answers to my questions are 2 nos. hehe
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 36 See my comments to EmMeadow, hehe
writer
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: Gary smith. broken even trader for 19 years. Then, he had only 2 losing
: months in next 19 years. No record after 2000 but looks like he is still a
: junk bond guru in 2010 online, so he must still trade well after the big
: bull bubble burst. (on the contrariety, Tony Oz, a stock trading book writer
: , became a real estate agent and dare not come back to this bloody market
: after 2000 bubble)
: I can say that this guy definitely did not trading for live based on his
: luck.
:
: person
|
w****a
发帖数: 452 | 37 最重要的是什么呢？有没有什么诀窍啊，还有哪些indicator 最重要啊？谢谢指导哈。
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: You don't need a lot of money to start. Because investment is compound
: return, unlike your salary. Your second half million will be a lot faster
: than your first half.
|
f******d
发帖数: 6361 | 38 "on the contrariety, Tony Oz, a stock trading book writer
, became a real estate agent and dare not come back to this bloody market
after 2000 bubble)"
can you show me the link?
writer
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: Gary smith. broken even trader for 19 years. Then, he had only 2 losing
: months in next 19 years. No record after 2000 but looks like he is still a
: junk bond guru in 2010 online, so he must still trade well after the big
: bull bubble burst. (on the contrariety, Tony Oz, a stock trading book writer
: , became a real estate agent and dare not come back to this bloody market
: after 2000 bubble)
: I can say that this guy definitely did not trading for live based on his
: luck.
:
: person
|
t****9
发帖数: 4491 | 39 我觉得应该用百分比来代替1 million比较靠谱，5年平均年收益少于50%的话真的不适
应炒股
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: You don't need a lot of money to start. Because investment is compound
: return, unlike your salary. Your second half million will be a lot faster
: than your first half.
|
s********y
发帖数: 831 | 40 I think the most important thing to remember is probably patience. Even if
you have a great strategy, you won't get rich in the next week or next month
. Even if your stock does not move for a year, you need to have the
stomach to stay put.
Most people here think if they were able to make a 20% return in a few days,
they can repeat that again by studying charts and patterns. They won't.
But that's the way most people here think how the stock market is played,
and that's just stupid.
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 最重要的是什么呢？有没有什么诀窍啊，还有哪些indicator 最重要啊？谢谢指导哈。
|
|
|
f******d
发帖数: 6361 | 41 西莹炒了多少年股票了？
if
month
days,
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I think the most important thing to remember is probably patience. Even if
: you have a great strategy, you won't get rich in the next week or next month
: . Even if your stock does not move for a year, you need to have the
: stomach to stay put.
: Most people here think if they were able to make a 20% return in a few days,
: they can repeat that again by studying charts and patterns. They won't.
: But that's the way most people here think how the stock market is played,
: and that's just stupid.
|
w***n
发帖数: 1519 | 42
if
month
那为啥大牛评价人的时候只看5年能否赚到百万呢？要是第二年开窍，第三年股票不动
弹，5年下来看了你的帖子也只好放弃了。
何况5年赚不到百万有什么关系，哪怕20年从5万赚到百万，赚第二个百万可能只要再多
花4年，第三个百万只要再多花2年多。。。
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I think the most important thing to remember is probably patience. Even if
: you have a great strategy, you won't get rich in the next week or next month
: . Even if your stock does not move for a year, you need to have the
: stomach to stay put.
: Most people here think if they were able to make a 20% return in a few days,
: they can repeat that again by studying charts and patterns. They won't.
: But that's the way most people here think how the stock market is played,
: and that's just stupid.
|
o******e
发帖数: 1001 | 43 学习炒股和学习C++是两回事，在智商一定的情况下，C++学习的程度主要取决于学习时
间，而股票的学习不单单取决于学习时间，也取决于你在这段时间内经历的股市。这两
者在学习上有重要的区别。
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】
: 初学半年能赚10%很牛了吧。本青蛙学了半年到现在也就只有3%的盈利。当然，之前没
: 有概念，前4个月亏了15%。后来两个月扳回到3%。我还觉得我学得挺快的。和你比我就
: 是个loser。
|
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 44 按照这个说法，本青蛙也还可以呀。本青蛙有详细的操作判断，从来不会强行进入股市
。而且本青蛙该加仓的时候加仓，该止损的时候止损。每次盈亏量都不大，也不计较单
次操作的得失。耐心看着小盈利聚沙成塔。这不都是大牛说的基本要素么。本青蛙最大
的问题，就是自己制定的计划并不太make sense。不过好歹暂时平均盈利是正数。虽然
时间不长，不过应该至少不会再随便出现外婆的情况了。这就应该达到了青蛙的标准了
吧。
if
month
days,
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: I think the most important thing to remember is probably patience. Even if
: you have a great strategy, you won't get rich in the next week or next month
: . Even if your stock does not move for a year, you need to have the
: stomach to stay put.
: Most people here think if they were able to make a 20% return in a few days,
: they can repeat that again by studying charts and patterns. They won't.
: But that's the way most people here think how the stock market is played,
: and that's just stupid.
|
g***c
发帖数: 11523 | 45 慢慢玩吧
估计再有半年，你2W刀就都亏光了
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
G*******m
发帖数: 16326 | 46 10%，挺好。
【在 w****a 的大作中提到】
: 我之前对股票一窍不透，后来机缘巧合，慢慢学了一些。最近半年开始小打小闹。两万
: 美元的本金进去，弄了半年，只赚了大概两千美元左右。
: 感觉好累啊，花了很多心思，还只有赚两千美元。我这样的算失败吗？谢谢大家了，轻
: 拍！
|
