S*********g 发帖数: 24893 | 1 博纳打开门加税,转移财政悬崖会谈
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华盛顿(路透社) - 的第一个真正的运动中的“财悬崖”谈判始于上周日,与共和党
的众议院议长约翰·博纳磨边稍微接近奥巴马总统的关键需求作为他们试图避免的陡峭
税加息和削减开支采取的12月31日,除非国会干预的影响。
但博纳的新职位,税率及新的收入总额包括在一个赤字削减协议,仍然远离那些由奥巴
马举行。
而且双方还没有取得进展的棘手问题,如配额,要远远超过民主党,共和党很可能会容
忍在削减医疗补助和医疗保险,政府为穷人和老年人的医疗保健计划。
知情人士透露奥巴马和博纳谈判,博纳提出延长低税率为大家谁也赚不到100万美元,
上面说的工资和价格将上升。奥巴马希望该阈值设置为25万美元。
根据现行法律,35%的最高税率定为1月1日届满,并会自动去到39.6% - 它是在克林
顿执政期间。
博纳也增加了他的身影1万亿美元的总收入相比,奥巴马的1.4万亿美元的数字。 10年
的赤字削减计划将来自削减开支的平衡。
白宫不接受博纳建议。
博纳接受要约的税率增加对最富有的美国人击倒一个关键的共和党的路障,以解决年底
的“财政悬崖的交易。”
现在的问题归结到总统奥巴马提供的回报。等重大问题,仍然没有答案如此接近年底的
建议,但是,没有支出和税收协议是迫在眉睫。
随着财政悬崖的600亿美元在自动加税和削减开支的刚刚超过两个星期前被触发,一个
新的经济衰退威胁,很少有时间来制定一个全面的协议,这将满足民主党和共和党。
直到最近共和党报价,博纳坚持延长布什时代的低税率。声浪高涨的企业管理人员也已
敦促共和党同意。
一些国会议员和国会幕僚曾预测,共和党,开始一次认真的谈判,可能会尝试筹集25万
美元的门槛,说50万美元或100万美元。他们还推测,共和党,如果被迫进入加息对高
收入群体的税率,可能会寻求一个较小的增加,说37%左右。
虽然白宫还没有接受博纳的开局,它可以推动谈判,远离根深蒂固的意识形态立场。
“博纳的前提下接受更高的价格,所以现在我们只是在争论细节,我认为这是一个重要
的步骤,”格雷格━瓦莱尔说,在Potomac Research Group的首席政治战略家。
拼写出税收和支出削减目标,将在新的一年完成的框架协议是可能的,━瓦莱尔说。
“博纳的提议,让纳税人的收入超过100万美元的税率从根本上转变财政的悬崖谈判,
西方,美国的政策,政治风险顾问公司欧亚集团(Eurasia Group)分析师补充说:”
肖恩。
在给客户的报告中,西写信号,重要的是,这博纳最终相信了一项协议,避免了悬崖仍
然是可能的。
“的政治责任,现在转回到总统,他们必须愿意接受对他的党,以获得一个交易博纳最
终通过,我们不认为总统会超越:奥巴马与博纳得到一个处理“。
还有几个关键要素的交易,除了增加对富人的税率,包括共和党要求削减社会福利计划
的开支。
昂贵的医疗保险和医疗补助的老人和穷人的医疗保健计划的变更可能是中央的任何交易
,还必须包括所需要的二月底的联邦债务上限的增加。
要求削减社会计划
博纳空调奥巴马的协议,以削减社会计划支出,通常被称为配额税率上调报价。
许多共和党议员们希望在提高,医疗保险的资格年龄从65至67。他们还希望连接医疗保
险到收件人的收入,富裕的退休人员支付更多的对自己的关爱。
目前,医疗保险确实有一定的检测手段,收取较高的保费,投保的医生访问和处方药的
个人收入超过$ 85,000,年薪17万美元的已婚夫妇。只有约5%的受助人支付更高的保
费。
迄今为止,奥巴马已经提出只有约400亿美元,在10年期限的储蓄,主要是通过控制医
疗保健成本 - 没有根本的改变,如提高年龄小的调整。
只是,作为博纳面临着反对他自己的党,以提高任何税率,奥巴马面临着反对削减医疗
保险,医疗补助和社会民主党人,在竞选活动中承诺,他们会保护这些程序的安全性。
一个大集团的民主党国会议员已经表示,他们将主要削减医疗保险的作为任何财政悬崖
交易的一部分,不接受。
众议院少数党领袖南希·佩洛西的加利福尼亚州和马里兰州马里兰州众议员克里斯·范
·Hollen之间的高层民主党在众议院已经出来了有力最近几天对资格的医疗保险的年龄
提高到67岁。
在波托马克研究,跟踪华盛顿的政策,为投资者,分析师,“保罗说,”正在谈论从医
疗保险的储蓄水平,你无法得到它的所有供应商和药品生产商Heldman。
因此,有理由相信如果一个大型的交易被切断,的受益者将采取某种命中对手的资格年
龄提高,“他说。”
在确保削减福利项目,以换取增加对富人的所得税率,如果共和党都没有成功,他们是
坚定的关于使用债务上限的增加作为检修的社会保障和医疗保险的杠杆作用。
到今年年底,美国财政部预计将达到其164000亿美元的法定债务上限,并将于2月中旬
左右,耗尽剩余的借贷能力可能会导致潜在的违约。
从来没有投票提高债务上限的保守的茶党党团的成员,路易斯安那州共和党众议员约翰
•弗莱明(John Fleming)表示,他将支持上调债务上限,如果它是使医疗保险
和社会保障可持续发展的交易的一部分。
活动的步伐,未来一周可以拿起。
众议院共和党人被告知要准备下周可能的周末的时间,可能中断的圣诞假期长周末的旅
行计划。
众议院多数党领袖埃里克·坎托“可能的立法,相关的法律规定,过期,”一提到即将
到期的减税政策,结束的一周,预示着一个周末的时间安排。康托尔说,众议院将通过
在圣诞假期和满足。
Boehner opens door to tax hikes, shifts fiscal cliff talks
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first real movement in the "fiscal cliff" talks
began on Sunday, with Republican House Speaker John Boehner edging slightly
closer to President Barack Obama's key demands as they try to avert the
steep tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect unless Congress
intervenes by December 31.
But Boehner's new positions, on tax rates and the total amount of new
revenue to be included in a deficit-reduction deal, were still far from
those held by Obama.
And the two sides have yet to make headway on tough issues such as
entitlements, with the Republicans wanting far more than Democrats are
likely to tolerate in cuts to Medicaid and Medicare, the government
healthcare programs for the poor and seniors.
Sources familiar with the Obama-Boehner talks confirmed that Boehner
proposed extending low tax rates for everyone who has earned less than $1
million, and rates would rise for wages above that. Obama wants that
threshold set at $250,000.
Under current law, the 35 percent top tax rate is scheduled to expire on
January 1, and would automatically go to 39.6 percent - where it was during
the Clinton administration.
Boehner also has increased to $1 trillion his figure for total revenue,
compared to Obama's figure of $1.4 trillion. The balance of a 10-year
deficit-reduction plan would come from spending cuts.
The White House has not accepted the Boehner proposals.
The Boehner offer to accept a tax rate increase for the wealthiest Americans
knocks down a key Republican road block to a deal resolving the year-end "
fiscal cliff."
The question now boils down to what President Barack Obama offers in return.
Such major questions, still unanswered so close to the end of the year
suggest, however, that no spending and tax agreement is imminent.
With just over two weeks before the fiscal cliff's $600 billion in automatic
tax hikes and spending cuts are triggered, threatening a new recession,
there is little time to craft a comprehensive deal that will satisfy both
Democrats and Republicans.
Until the latest Republican offer Boehner had insisted on extending all of
the Bush era's lower tax rates. A rising chorus of business executives also
had urged Republicans to agree to this.
Some lawmakers and congressional aides had predicted that Republicans, once
serious negotiations began, might try to raise the $250,000 threshold, say
to $500,000 or $1 million. They also speculated that Republicans, if forced
into a tax rate hike on the upper-income groups, might seek a smaller
increase, say to around 37 percent.
Although the White House has not accepted Boehner's gambit, it could push
negotiations away from entrenched, ideological positions.
"Boehner has now accepted the premise of higher rates. So now we're just
arguing over details. I think it's a significant step," said Greg Valliere,
chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group.
A framework deal spelling out tax revenue and spending cut targets to be
finalized in the new year could be possible, Valliere said.
"Boehner's offer to allow tax rates to go up for taxpayers earning over $1
million fundamentally transforms fiscal cliff negotiations," added Sean West
, U.S. policy analyst at Eurasia Group, a political risk consultancy.
In a note to clients, West wrote that it signals, significantly, that
Boehner ultimately believes a deal to avoid the cliff is still possible.
"The political burden is now shifted back to the president, who must be
willing to take on his party in order to get a deal Boehner can ultimately
pass. We do not think the president will overreach: Obama will work with
Boehner to get to a deal."
There are still several critical elements to a deal besides a tax rate
increase on the wealthy, including Republican demands to cut spending on
social programs.
Changes to the expensive Medicare and Medicaid health care programs for the
elderly and the poor could be central to any deal, which must also include
an increase in the federal debt limit needed by the end of February.
DEMANDS SOCIAL PROGRAM CUTS
Boehner conditioned his tax rate increase offer on Obama's agreement to cuts
in social program spending, often called entitlements.
Many Republican lawmakers want to raise the eligibility age for Medicare to
67 from 65. They also want to link Medicare to the income of recipients,
making wealthier retirees pay more for their care.
Currently, Medicare does have some means testing, charging higher premiums
for coverage of doctors visits and prescription drugs to individuals earning
more than $85,000 and married couples earning more than $170,000. Only
about 5 percent of recipients pay these higher premiums.
Thus far, Obama has offered only about $400 billion in 10-year entitlement
savings, mostly through small adjustments in reining in health care costs -
not fundamental changes such as raising the eligibility age.
And just as Boehner faces opposition in his own party to raising any tax
rates, Obama faces opposition to cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social
Security from Democrats, who pledged in election campaigns they would
protect these programs.
A major bloc of congressional Democrats has already signaled they will not
accept major cutbacks in Medicare as part of any fiscal cliff deal.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California and Maryland Representative
Chris Van Hollen of Maryland are among the high ranking Democrats in the
House who have come out forcefully in recent days against raising the age
for eligibility for Medicare to 67 years of age.
"Given the level of savings that is being talked about from Medicare, you
can't get it all from providers and drug makers," said Paul Heldman, an
analyst at Potomac Research, which tracks Washington policy for investors.
"So opponents of raising the eligibility age have reason to believe
beneficiaries will take some sort of hit if a mega-deal is cut," he said.
If Republicans are not successful in securing entitlement program cuts in
exchange for a tax-rate increase on the wealthy, they are adamant about
using a debt-limit increase as leverage to overhaul Social Security and
Medicare.
The U.S. Treasury expects to reach its $16.4 trillion statutory debt cap by
year-end, and will exhaust its remaining borrowing capacity around mid-
February, risking a potential default.
Louisiana Republican Representative John Fleming, a member of the
conservative Tea Party caucus who has never voted to increase the debt
ceiling, said he would support a debt limit hike if it were part of a deal
to make Medicare and Social Security sustainable.
The pace of activity could pick up the coming week.
House Republicans were told to prepare for a possible weekend session next
week, potentially interrupting travel plans for the long Christmas holiday
weekend.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor scheduled "possible legislation related to
expiring provisions of law," a reference to the expiring tax cuts, for the
end of the week, portending a weekend session. Cantor has said the House
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REPUBLICANS. HE JUST NEED TO SHOW AMERICANS THAT NO PROGRESS IS BECAUSE OF
REPUBLICAN. THEN IT WILL CRASH THEIR CONFIDENCE AND THEY ARE SCARED OF DEATH
IF THEY LOSE THE THIRD ELECTION.
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【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 博纳打开门加税,转移财政悬崖会谈 : Reuters Reuters - 9小时前 : 华盛顿(路透社) - 的第一个真正的运动中的“财悬崖”谈判始于上周日,与共和党 : 的众议院议长约翰·博纳磨边稍微接近奥巴马总统的关键需求作为他们试图避免的陡峭 : 税加息和削减开支采取的12月31日,除非国会干预的影响。 : 但博纳的新职位,税率及新的收入总额包括在一个赤字削减协议,仍然远离那些由奥巴 : 马举行。 : 而且双方还没有取得进展的棘手问题,如配额,要远远超过民主党,共和党很可能会容 : 忍在削减医疗补助和医疗保险,政府为穷人和老年人的医疗保健计划。 : 知情人士透露奥巴马和博纳谈判,博纳提出延长低税率为大家谁也赚不到100万美元,
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