b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | |
b******r
发帖数: 1619 | |
J****s
发帖数: 413 | 3 wow! now I have a 大牛 supporter on this one
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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N**A
发帖数: 638 | 4 请问应该在软件上选哪个选项才是short呀？是buy to close吗？还是sell to open？ |
m****r
发帖数: 5435 | 5
看着不像pro的做法。
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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N*****d
发帖数: 9872 | 6 Sell short
【在 N**A 的大作中提到】
: 请问应该在软件上选哪个选项才是short呀？是buy to close吗？还是sell to open？
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N**A
发帖数: 638 | 7 谢谢！
【在 N*****d 的大作中提到】
: Sell short
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r*****e
发帖数: 4611 | |
T******r
发帖数: 84 | 9 牛逼！和200K TSLA一样牛逼！
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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E******2
发帖数: 88 | 10 I dont wanna bash. But are u gonna cover now or wat?
Thats real pro man, and I mean it. |
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t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | |
E******2
发帖数: 88 | 12 Mr.Bullblade is testing the forum'sentiment, dont be misled. |
t*****e
发帖数: 3276 | |
a***m
发帖数: 5037 | |
J****s
发帖数: 413 | 15 希望你是纸交。。
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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a***m
发帖数: 5037 | 16 他是著名的口交大牛吧
【在 J****s 的大作中提到】
: 希望你是纸交。。
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d******e
发帖数: 1073 | 17 我擦，已经烧糊3块了，30K浮亏
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 18 didn't add position so far.
If you don't understand market, just watch. |
E******2
发帖数: 88 | 19 A completely avoidable losing trade so far, and money could be made
elsewhere. |
v********e
发帖数: 49 | 20 不要赌气
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: didn't add position so far.
: If you don't understand market, just watch.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 21 You may want to read all my posts, and see when I opened this position.
【在 E******2 的大作中提到】
: A completely avoidable losing trade so far, and money could be made
: elsewhere.
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a***m
发帖数: 5037 | 22 不要整天贴大额口交害人了
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: You may want to read all my posts, and see when I opened this position.
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P**B
发帖数: 1051 | 23 这次没说舌头插入不动
【在 T******r 的大作中提到】
: 牛逼！和200K TSLA一样牛逼！
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E******2
发帖数: 88 | 24 LOL?
51.94 isnt that where u got ur shorts filled?
If not, then I offer my sincere sorry to you.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: You may want to read all my posts, and see when I opened this position.
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 25 i won't short twtr, but it is also unnecessary to bash LZ because he might
be right and make money eventually as long as he can hang on his position.
Unless LZ cut meat or get margin call, we can't call "this is a losing trade
". Bottom line, don't judge too early just because the current stock price
is against LZ. Who knows what will happen tomorrow, next week and next year. |
b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 26 sold 100 contracts dec20 55p @ 2.3 |
a***m
发帖数: 5037 | 27 可笑之处是
大涨后
他接着回帖说还没入
发信人: bullblade (千年大顶), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: TWTR shorted 10K shares @ 51.94
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 12 13:55:17 2013, 美东)
didn't add position so far.
trade
year.
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: i won't short twtr, but it is also unnecessary to bash LZ because he might
: be right and make money eventually as long as he can hang on his position.
: Unless LZ cut meat or get margin call, we can't call "this is a losing trade
: ". Bottom line, don't judge too early just because the current stock price
: is against LZ. Who knows what will happen tomorrow, next week and next year.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 28 I opened this position after my NG futures trades got 20K profit.
You really need to learn more before laugh at others and being laughed.
【在 E******2 的大作中提到】
: LOL?
: 51.94 isnt that where u got ur shorts filled?
: If not, then I offer my sincere sorry to you.
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E******2
发帖数: 88 | 29 I am sorry for wat I wrote there,
BUT, CMON, the losses so far is bigger than my account already (LOL)
I am just so jealous, and BTW, I lost 5k in Forex today too.
trade
year.
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: i won't short twtr, but it is also unnecessary to bash LZ because he might
: be right and make money eventually as long as he can hang on his position.
: Unless LZ cut meat or get margin call, we can't call "this is a losing trade
: ". Bottom line, don't judge too early just because the current stock price
: is against LZ. Who knows what will happen tomorrow, next week and next year.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 30 查字典吧，add是什么意思？
【在 a***m 的大作中提到】
: 可笑之处是
: 大涨后
: 他接着回帖说还没入
: 发信人: bullblade (千年大顶), 信区: Stock
: 标 题: Re: TWTR shorted 10K shares @ 51.94
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 12 13:55:17 2013, 美东)
: didn't add position so far.
:
: trade
: year.
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | |
E******2
发帖数: 88 | 32 Well congratulations on that one. that deserves another LOL
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: I opened this position after my NG futures trades got 20K profit.
: You really need to learn more before laugh at others and being laughed.
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L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 33 Now you are in fact LONG twtr by delta 1900
so that means you cut lost on your initial position.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: sold 100 contracts dec20 55p @ 2.3
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t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 34 it is somebody else's money, none of our business ~~~
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: LOL! 真的假的阿？
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 35 OK, maybe only you understand the trick.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: Now you are in fact LONG twtr by delta 1900
: so that means you cut lost on your initial position.
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r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 36 I sold 100k contacts of twtr 2016Jan 50call
and bought 100K contracts of 2016Jan 50put |
P**B
发帖数: 1051 | 37 尼玛，这个也是亿万富翁。100万股100万股的买卖。
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: I sold 100k contacts of twtr 2016Jan 50call
: and bought 100K contracts of 2016Jan 50put
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r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 38 of course, everyone here is 亿万富翁.
just a few key strokes, you can trade whatever size you want.
【在 P**B 的大作中提到】
: 尼玛，这个也是亿万富翁。100万股100万股的买卖。
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t*******k
发帖数: 173 | 39 contacts?contracts?
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: I sold 100k contacts of twtr 2016Jan 50call
: and bought 100K contracts of 2016Jan 50put
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 40 i also don't think shorting twtr is a good idea, but I definitely won't buy
it, so I just avoid it.
Having said that, I have impression that twtr is overvalued comparing to its
peers, say facebook. For facebook, its revenue/price ratio is about 18.0
while twtr's rev/price ratio is a whopping 50. Do you believe? twtw's 2013
revenue is even less than major chinese IT companies e.g. Sohu/NTES.
And don't forget, twtr currently doesn't make money at all. They are losing
money and even losing more money this year than last year. Even twtr is
developing much faster than facebook, the big gap between two still can't be
justified when you compare their fundamentals.
As I said, as long as LZ can hang on his position, he might make money. LZ
has been in this board for years and he is not an emotional player and I
believe he did his research before shorting twtr.
【在 E******2 的大作中提到】
: I am sorry for wat I wrote there,
: BUT, CMON, the losses so far is bigger than my account already (LOL)
: I am just so jealous, and BTW, I lost 5k in Forex today too.
:
: trade
: year.
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A**********o
发帖数: 996 | 41
哥，貌似你亏废了
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: rt
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r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 42 yes, just oral, that's trendy, isn't it?
【在 t*******k 的大作中提到】
: contacts?contracts?
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A**********o
发帖数: 996 | 43
what????
I cannot get it now.
55-2.3 = 52.7 bucks
52.7-51.94 = lose 0.76 bucks.
if TWTR goes extreme case.. you lose big
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: sold 100 contracts dec20 55p @ 2.3
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r*****e
发帖数: 4611 | 44 想了半天想明白了
就是说现在跌回去你也不能再赚钱了
如果现在继续涨，那就得继续亏
等于是cut了自己profit potential，但是保留了risk
reward 和risk比好像不太对称啊。
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: sold 100 contracts dec20 55p @ 2.3
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A**********o
发帖数: 996 | 45 not a smart move at all... |
t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 46 twtr will not turn profit through 2015 ~~~
buy
its
losing
be
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: i also don't think shorting twtr is a good idea, but I definitely won't buy
: it, so I just avoid it.
: Having said that, I have impression that twtr is overvalued comparing to its
: peers, say facebook. For facebook, its revenue/price ratio is about 18.0
: while twtr's rev/price ratio is a whopping 50. Do you believe? twtw's 2013
: revenue is even less than major chinese IT companies e.g. Sohu/NTES.
: And don't forget, twtr currently doesn't make money at all. They are losing
: money and even losing more money this year than last year. Even twtr is
: developing much faster than facebook, the big gap between two still can't be
: justified when you compare their fundamentals.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 47 嗯，第一波如果赚钱了，还有第二波。
如果第一波没赚钱，就不增加仓位，用call/put来止损。
【在 r*****e 的大作中提到】
: 想了半天想明白了
: 就是说现在跌回去你也不能再赚钱了
: 如果现在继续涨，那就得继续亏
: 等于是cut了自己profit potential，但是保留了risk
: reward 和risk比好像不太对称啊。
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E******2
发帖数: 88 | 48 We need BIG BULL on this forum to orchestrate a big short play for TWTR..
lol JK.
Valuation wise, the stock definitely got ahead of it self. its just you need
a better price to get in without getting burned or putting too much effort
hedging.
buy
its
losing
be
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: i also don't think shorting twtr is a good idea, but I definitely won't buy
: it, so I just avoid it.
: Having said that, I have impression that twtr is overvalued comparing to its
: peers, say facebook. For facebook, its revenue/price ratio is about 18.0
: while twtr's rev/price ratio is a whopping 50. Do you believe? twtw's 2013
: revenue is even less than major chinese IT companies e.g. Sohu/NTES.
: And don't forget, twtr currently doesn't make money at all. They are losing
: money and even losing more money this year than last year. Even twtr is
: developing much faster than facebook, the big gap between two still can't be
: justified when you compare their fundamentals.
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f**r
发帖数: 18 | 49 别想了，你不知道别人所有的TWTR仓位。怎么可能知道他是怎么交易的？
如果手中很多TWTR的长期的call，这样的操作基本就是profit taken或者hedge.
我告诉你今天的这些操作，根本不代表任何意义？ 只能误导别人而已。
另外一种情况，有两个账户，一个long，另一个short。只给你看short的转户的交易，
你能说我是看跌这只股吗？
【在 r*****e 的大作中提到】
: 想了半天想明白了
: 就是说现在跌回去你也不能再赚钱了
: 如果现在继续涨，那就得继续亏
: 等于是cut了自己profit potential，但是保留了risk
: reward 和risk比好像不太对称啊。
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B*S
发帖数: 945 | 50 止损了? 如果继续涨到60,还接着亏呀.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，第一波如果赚钱了，还有第二波。
: 如果第一波没赚钱，就不增加仓位，用call/put来止损。
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r*****e
发帖数: 4611 | 51 恩，确实是，
而且卖的put很短期，就一个多礼拜。很快就到期了。
不过这标题够误导青蛙们的呀
【在 f**r 的大作中提到】
: 别想了，你不知道别人所有的TWTR仓位。怎么可能知道他是怎么交易的？
: 如果手中很多TWTR的长期的call，这样的操作基本就是profit taken或者hedge.
: 我告诉你今天的这些操作，根本不代表任何意义？ 只能误导别人而已。
: 另外一种情况，有两个账户，一个long，另一个short。只给你看short的转户的交易，
: 你能说我是看跌这只股吗？
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 52 交易贴，不是给人跟的呀。今天贴的期货贴，也不是给人跟的呀。
【在 r*****e 的大作中提到】
: 恩，确实是，
: 而且卖的put很短期，就一个多礼拜。很快就到期了。
: 不过这标题够误导青蛙们的呀
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A**********o
发帖数: 996 | 53
大牛还是给我们青蛙来两个长线是金的好批克吧，
操作是最没法借鉴的。因为人的内心活动，和肾上腺分泌量都是不同的
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 交易贴，不是给人跟的呀。今天贴的期货贴，也不是给人跟的呀。
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 54 油工，咱看空啦，所以很难说服自己开多仓了。
【在 A**********o 的大作中提到】
:
: 大牛还是给我们青蛙来两个长线是金的好批克吧，
: 操作是最没法借鉴的。因为人的内心活动，和肾上腺分泌量都是不同的
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L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 55 说实话， 你那个贴子出来不管是不是给人跟的，（估计也没几个会跟你， 有人烧可能
都在你之前就烧了。） 我觉得不象一个老手会做的事。 short momentum is a frog's
favorite. 所以我很怀疑你是trade your way on to a fund's equity partner. if
in fact you ARE an equity partner
selling TSLA yesterday and today is laughable - don't matter if profitable
or cut meat. you fail to recognize one of most reliable and the most bullish
pattern - a tight flag following a big white candle. especial after
yesterday's action - a break through is just matter of time, not yes or no.
therefore you missed a big chunk of profit. and to brag about bring it down
from 145 is such a joke.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 交易贴，不是给人跟的呀。今天贴的期货贴，也不是给人跟的呀。
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c*******y
发帖数: 1630 | 56 对他水平的判断，我们好像是高度一致的，我算见识了，10：1的risk/reward交易还来
实时报，这是老脸丢尽的主，还来炫耀盈利。我早说是beginner，被他骂死你了，你等着
他等会还要威胁说要用枪，什么中国人不团结啦，哪跟哪啊，精神错乱就是。
's
if
bullish
.
down
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: 说实话， 你那个贴子出来不管是不是给人跟的，（估计也没几个会跟你， 有人烧可能
: 都在你之前就烧了。） 我觉得不象一个老手会做的事。 short momentum is a frog's
: favorite. 所以我很怀疑你是trade your way on to a fund's equity partner. if
: in fact you ARE an equity partner
: selling TSLA yesterday and today is laughable - don't matter if profitable
: or cut meat. you fail to recognize one of most reliable and the most bullish
: pattern - a tight flag following a big white candle. especial after
: yesterday's action - a break through is just matter of time, not yes or no.
: therefore you missed a big chunk of profit. and to brag about bring it down
: from 145 is such a joke.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 57 不跟你说什么，我的绿卡是炒期货炒来的。OK？
你真牛逼，比Livermore牛逼。你止损，就觉得天底下所有的人都要止损？
我后面还可以下多少仓位，你问了没？
止损两个条件：
1. 没钱了。
2. 价格回不来了。
你这点期货水平还不如跟大夫去买option赌一把。
等着
【在 c*******y 的大作中提到】
: 对他水平的判断，我们好像是高度一致的，我算见识了，10：1的risk/reward交易还来
: 实时报，这是老脸丢尽的主，还来炫耀盈利。我早说是beginner，被他骂死你了，你等着
: 他等会还要威胁说要用枪，什么中国人不团结啦，哪跟哪啊，精神错乱就是。
:
: 's
: if
: bullish
: .
: down
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 58 咱俩的知识面不在一条线上。完全两套路子。另外，我没主动批评你吧？
我要试盘，卖了两次TSLA都是一次被吃掉，就知道143肯定要过去。
如果我真的相信立刻去90，早就卖光了。
's
if
bullish
.
down
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: 说实话， 你那个贴子出来不管是不是给人跟的，（估计也没几个会跟你， 有人烧可能
: 都在你之前就烧了。） 我觉得不象一个老手会做的事。 short momentum is a frog's
: favorite. 所以我很怀疑你是trade your way on to a fund's equity partner. if
: in fact you ARE an equity partner
: selling TSLA yesterday and today is laughable - don't matter if profitable
: or cut meat. you fail to recognize one of most reliable and the most bullish
: pattern - a tight flag following a big white candle. especial after
: yesterday's action - a break through is just matter of time, not yes or no.
: therefore you missed a big chunk of profit. and to brag about bring it down
: from 145 is such a joke.
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P**B
发帖数: 1051 | 59 尼玛：上亿资产，绿卡，枪，期货。。。。。你要嫉妒死我们啊！
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 不跟你说什么，我的绿卡是炒期货炒来的。OK？
: 你真牛逼，比Livermore牛逼。你止损，就觉得天底下所有的人都要止损？
: 我后面还可以下多少仓位，你问了没？
: 止损两个条件：
: 1. 没钱了。
: 2. 价格回不来了。
: 你这点期货水平还不如跟大夫去买option赌一把。
:
: 等着
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c*******y
发帖数: 1630 | 60 没兴趣看你秀智商下限。
我只是beginner level，从来如此。但足以看出你是什么交易水平，看不惯充大蒜的行
为。
你基本每句话都是可笑的，
日内短线交易，说看什么天图，又说自己卖了个什么系统给一个天然气公司，
又说止损是因为没钱，是因为价格回不来了（你这是预测价格么？）
你不是很推崇ET么，上面的期货journal，哪个不给TP/SL？
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 不跟你说什么，我的绿卡是炒期货炒来的。OK？
: 你真牛逼，比Livermore牛逼。你止损，就觉得天底下所有的人都要止损？
: 我后面还可以下多少仓位，你问了没？
: 止损两个条件：
: 1. 没钱了。
: 2. 价格回不来了。
: 你这点期货水平还不如跟大夫去买option赌一把。
:
: 等着
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b******r
发帖数: 1619 | 61 啊哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 不跟你说什么，我的绿卡是炒期货炒来的。OK？
: 你真牛逼，比Livermore牛逼。你止损，就觉得天底下所有的人都要止损？
: 我后面还可以下多少仓位，你问了没？
: 止损两个条件：
: 1. 没钱了。
: 2. 价格回不来了。
: 你这点期货水平还不如跟大夫去买option赌一把。
:
: 等着
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 62 lol，我的交易帖子，有位一起做空的朋友问了一句，会不会去5？
我回说，maybe, but won't last long。后来窜上去，远远没到5吧，立马又下来了，
是吧？NG这点性子，早摸透了，很多经验没办法几句话解释。
【在 c*******y 的大作中提到】
: 没兴趣看你秀智商下限。
: 我只是beginner level，从来如此。但足以看出你是什么交易水平，看不惯充大蒜的行
: 为。
: 你基本每句话都是可笑的，
: 日内短线交易，说看什么天图，又说自己卖了个什么系统给一个天然气公司，
: 又说止损是因为没钱，是因为价格回不来了（你这是预测价格么？）
: 你不是很推崇ET么，上面的期货journal，哪个不给TP/SL？
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