m*****u 发帖数: 5534 | 1 新浪财经讯 北京时间12月20日上午消息 美联储周四在华盛顿公告,其持有资产上周增
加141亿美元至4.01万亿美元新高。规模仅次于中美GDP,而超过德国GDP。
美联储周三刚刚宣布从明年起缩减QE3规模,之前每月购债850亿美元的宽松项目已
经持续一年。
第三轮量化宽松开始前的2012年9月,联储资产负债表规模为2.82万亿美元。而
2008年金融危机时只有目前的1/4。
昨日伯南克在记者会上表示,随着资产负债表变得庞大,退出变得越来越困难。(
安特)
我觉得应该超过全球所有国家GDP总和,这样才叫牛B |
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 3 This is most stupid fear. Fed reserve asset is the base magnifier to U.S.
currency system. Bank deposit into FED, and FED give currency to the deposit
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So it is asset or debt??? It is currency magnifier only. The currency are
magnified through bank on each currency deposit rounds. If you have less
round (due to less economy activity), less magnification.
If you compare Chinese Central bank, the money printing is not even under
that radar. It can freely print trillions of RMB, and the printing has
exceeded all countries combined in recent years.
The Chinese model's success is nothing but printing when translate into
economy behavior; If FED can print 2x or 3x of the 4 billion freely, you
will see hyper growth immediately. However, this is the drawback of
democracy, government investment is under control, otherwise, U.S. can keep
on increasing investment 20% YOY (like China) on infrastructure and real
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l*****t 发帖数: 8319 | 4 大牛。。。一点finace常识都没有也感乱说。。。
deposit
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【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is most stupid fear. Fed reserve asset is the base magnifier to U.S. : currency system. Bank deposit into FED, and FED give currency to the deposit : . : So it is asset or debt??? It is currency magnifier only. The currency are : magnified through bank on each currency deposit rounds. If you have less : round (due to less economy activity), less magnification. : If you compare Chinese Central bank, the money printing is not even under : that radar. It can freely print trillions of RMB, and the printing has : exceeded all countries combined in recent years. : The Chinese model's success is nothing but printing when translate into
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 5 Explain yours. Most likely, you don't even know how things work. Here is the
basic knowledge for you to learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大牛。。。一点finace常识都没有也感乱说。。。 : : deposit : keep
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 6 Tell us how you learned the FED reserve system, and what is U.S. currency
come from? and give us your rebuttal.
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大牛。。。一点finace常识都没有也感乱说。。。 : : deposit : keep
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l*****t 发帖数: 8319 | 7 俺虽然无知。。也不至于靠wiki。。你先去搞搞清楚美国印钱和中国印钱的联系啦。。
the
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Explain yours. Most likely, you don't even know how things work. Here is the : basic knowledge for you to learn: : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 8 Well, tell us AFTER you learn 美国印钱和中国印钱的联系 then. I think wiki
explanation is good start. Isn't it pathetic after you offered comments now
you need to learn these printing process?
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俺虽然无知。。也不至于靠wiki。。你先去搞搞清楚美国印钱和中国印钱的联系啦。。 : : the
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m*****i 发帖数: 4342 | 9 所以中国经济发展是印钱印出来的?
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, tell us AFTER you learn 美国印钱和中国印钱的联系 then. I think wiki : explanation is good start. Isn't it pathetic after you offered comments now : you need to learn these printing process?
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m*****i 发帖数: 4342 | 10 如果中国政府可以随便印钱,为什么还有地方政府债务危机呢?
now
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, tell us AFTER you learn 美国印钱和中国印钱的联系 then. I think wiki : explanation is good start. Isn't it pathetic after you offered comments now : you need to learn these printing process?
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 11 印钱是很大一部分。你想偷换成"唯一"部分?
Don't get me wrong, 印钱是集权的优越性。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 所以中国经济发展是印钱印出来的?
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 12 地方政府没权印, 你没注意到最近中央发现问题了?
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果中国政府可以随便印钱,为什么还有地方政府债务危机呢? : : now
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m*****i 发帖数: 4342 | 13 你真的相信印钱可以发展经济?
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 印钱是很大一部分。你想偷换成"唯一"部分? : Don't get me wrong, 印钱是集权的优越性。
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l*****t 发帖数: 8319 | 14 楼主是看wiki自学成才的天才。。。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 所以中国经济发展是印钱印出来的?
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 15 4 万亿。。。 还用说?
美国拉回 depression.. (Were you aware what Bernanke's argument in 2008?
Depression did not have FED reserve intervene/print on time).
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你真的相信印钱可以发展经济?
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l*****t 发帖数: 8319 | 16 我在伟伦楼读经管双学位的时候wiki还没出生呢。。
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Tell us how you learned the FED reserve system, and what is U.S. currency : come from? and give us your rebuttal.
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 17 wiki is better than ignorance. where is your rebuttal (in 5 minutes )? If it
is not your topic or even wiki knowledge, then why you even comment?
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 楼主是看wiki自学成才的天才。。。
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B**********r 发帖数: 7517 | 18 印钱只是增加流通。只有实体经济创造价值,才有意义。
美国印钱推高部分资产价格,如股市,但还没有实体经济的正现金流,反而投机出一些
资产泡沫。
中国也有类似问题,房价就是。中国的实体经济更明显,但很多投资没有产生正现金流
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 19 地摊买来的?
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我在伟伦楼读经管双学位的时候wiki还没出生呢。。
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l*****t 发帖数: 8319 | 20 你让我怎么说呢。你连1+1都不会让我给你解释微积分吗。。。
it
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : wiki is better than ignorance. where is your rebuttal (in 5 minutes )? If it : is not your topic or even wiki knowledge, then why you even comment?
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 21 Yes, but not totally, government's printing "normally" results in
investments in real economy activity. Of course printing has to be limited
to certain degree so that the currency's credibility is not in vain.
【在 B**********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 印钱只是增加流通。只有实体经济创造价值,才有意义。 : 美国印钱推高部分资产价格,如股市,但还没有实体经济的正现金流,反而投机出一些 : 资产泡沫。 : 中国也有类似问题,房价就是。中国的实体经济更明显,但很多投资没有产生正现金流 : ,债务上升。
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f*********r 发帖数: 7485 | 22 這個板上的ID信不信這個不重要。重要的是中美都在使勁印錢。中國政府偷偷的印,美
聯署找的藉口明著印。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你真的相信印钱可以发展经济?
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i******r 发帖数: 1175 | 23 我很看不起地摊货。我说1+1=3了,有 1+1=2 知识的还会怂包?你的“微鸡鸡”呢?
问题是讨论,过了多少时间也不见你能出击吧。
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你让我怎么说呢。你连1+1都不会让我给你解释微积分吗。。。 : : it
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t******r 发帖数: 1036 | 24 treasuries are national debt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0&list=SPE88E9ICdipidH
deposit
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is most stupid fear. Fed reserve asset is the base magnifier to U.S. : currency system. Bank deposit into FED, and FED give currency to the deposit : . : So it is asset or debt??? It is currency magnifier only. The currency are : magnified through bank on each currency deposit rounds. If you have less : round (due to less economy activity), less magnification. : If you compare Chinese Central bank, the money printing is not even under : that radar. It can freely print trillions of RMB, and the printing has : exceeded all countries combined in recent years. : The Chinese model's success is nothing but printing when translate into
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