s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 1 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
解释之类的。
谢谢！ | d******8
发帖数: 2191 | 2 美国对绿卡是全球征税的吧。。。。。你们讨论好报税的事情再说。 | p****e
发帖数: 3548 | 3 就是坑你，没商量
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 4 怎么个坑法呢？
谢谢
我查了查，好像确实是美国绿卡全球征税，如果以我的名义成立公司，可不可以公司对
中国政府交税，这样我还需要交个人海外收入稅吗？谢谢
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 就是坑你，没商量
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 5 如果成立个公司，但是用我的身份证去开户，收入可以算公司收入吗？我不参与分红。
这样我还需要报美国的税吗？
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 美国对绿卡是全球征税的吧。。。。。你们讨论好报税的事情再说。
| s***k
发帖数: 705 | 6 炒国内的股，为什么要用你这个有绿卡的？
global taxing可不是盖的。被查出来要交好多钱。 | s********i
发帖数: 17328 | | s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 8 他们不是中国大陆国籍，没法开户，好像是期货户头，一定要有大陆身份证。
说是最信任我，因为钱要放入开户人的户头，怕其他人卷款跑路。
我也不懂，但是这个朋友倒是信的过得。
【在 s***k 的大作中提到】
: 炒国内的股，为什么要用你这个有绿卡的？
: global taxing可不是盖的。被查出来要交好多钱。
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 9 他说要本人到场，好像是期货不是股票，还有什么别的模拟测试，不想麻烦家里老人。
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】
: 不就是借个身份证么，用你爸你妈的不行么？
| p****e
发帖数: 3548 | 10 这更坑，一被爆，你就等着被追债了
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 他说要本人到场，好像是期货不是股票，还有什么别的模拟测试，不想麻烦家里老人。
| | | s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 11 所以没有办法可以避免global taxing了是吧?
即使让他们成立个公司，我开户，他们以公司名义用我的户头交易，公司给中国交税，
我不参与分红。不知道是否可行啊？
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 这更坑，一被爆，你就等着被追债了
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 12 你指的被爆是说被美国发现海外收入还 IRS追我的税，还是他们期货玩亏了，欠债要我
还，不是银行账户他们存钱进去，输完了就完了吗?
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 这更坑，一被爆，你就等着被追债了
| p****e
发帖数: 3548 | 13 期货的杠杆是很大的，一般100倍以上，价格变化快的话被爆很正常
你存的钱cover不了的话就要赔更多进去
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 你指的被爆是说被美国发现海外收入还 IRS追我的税，还是他们期货玩亏了，欠债要我
: 还，不是银行账户他们存钱进去，输完了就完了吗?
| z*******e
发帖数: 111 | | s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 15 有没有保证金之类的设定，比如超过一个金额了，要么退出要么补钱。
除了这个以外，你觉得我说的公司用个人开的户进行交易来避免global taxing，可行
吗？
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 期货的杠杆是很大的，一般100倍以上，价格变化快的话被爆很正常
: 你存的钱cover不了的话就要赔更多进去
| s***d
发帖数: 15421 | 16 多少热钱想去抄a股的股指期货啊
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| s***k
发帖数: 705 | 17 不被查到还好，被查到了罚死你。
瑞银都搞不过us gov,不要说你个小散户了。
稳妥点就是用你爸妈的名义开，不然我觉得就别开了。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 有没有保证金之类的设定，比如超过一个金额了，要么退出要么补钱。
: 除了这个以外，你觉得我说的公司用个人开的户进行交易来避免global taxing，可行
: 吗？
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 18 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
【在 s***k 的大作中提到】
: 不被查到还好，被查到了罚死你。
: 瑞银都搞不过us gov,不要说你个小散户了。
: 稳妥点就是用你爸妈的名义开，不然我觉得就别开了。
| B******y
发帖数: 2255 | 19 劝你别掺和这事了。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
| c*******s
发帖数: 864 | 20 是的。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
| | | c******n
发帖数: 2273 | 21 你自己的有税上面的风险, 用你父母的. 没问题.
期货是有杠杆, 但是有margin的, 一半不会爆仓. 钱不够了, 会margin call, 不补钱,
broker可以强行平仓. 在钱上, 你没有风险. 也没有人会追债. 别听这些人瞎说忽悠.
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
| M*******s
发帖数: 4074 | 22 这个当然！
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 23 最近几年海外账号查的越来越严 超过5000美元
都必须申报。你这些说不清道不明来历的海外钱
进出你名下 有洗钱嫌疑。由于反恐需要我感觉FBI
和irs开始合作盯拥有资金出入的海外账号。你解释的
清楚你的钱怎么成你的了嘛？你解释清楚你朋友的资金的来历吗。劝你还是小心些 不
碰微妙
其实你着朋友再占便宜啊 不论多少只要钱
转入到你名下 这就是你当年的income。就算
这些钱全都再股市里面赔光了 你还是欠IRS
税啊
具有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。 | t******r
发帖数: 8600 | 24 玩金融玩到跳楼的基本都是与期货有关吧？
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 期货的杠杆是很大的，一般100倍以上，价格变化快的话被爆很正常
: 你存的钱cover不了的话就要赔更多进去
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 25 改正一下，你这个不是有洗钱嫌疑，你这个朋友其实就是用你来洗钱
大额资金的流动，凡是不能说清楚资金来源和去向的，都有这样的问题。
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 最近几年海外账号查的越来越严 超过5000美元
: 都必须申报。你这些说不清道不明来历的海外钱
: 进出你名下 有洗钱嫌疑。由于反恐需要我感觉FBI
: 和irs开始合作盯拥有资金出入的海外账号。你解释的
: 清楚你的钱怎么成你的了嘛？你解释清楚你朋友的资金的来历吗。劝你还是小心些 不
: 碰微妙
: 其实你着朋友再占便宜啊 不论多少只要钱
: 转入到你名下 这就是你当年的income。就算
: 这些钱全都再股市里面赔光了 你还是欠IRS
: 税啊
| f****p
发帖数: 18483 | 26 你这是找抽呀。
你都借了，还注意个屁呀！
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| e*****0
发帖数: 241 | 27 如果亏了， 无法平仓， 还是要你负责债务的，一般情况下至少都是几千万。 | T**********r
发帖数: 1223 | 28 那不废话，
赚了钱到时候你跟政府说，
我只是用了一下我的身份证？
怎么有这么蠢的人呢？
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 所以只要用我的身份证开了户，通过这个户头的收入都算我的海外收入?
| z******e
发帖数: 176 | 29 到底是五千还是五万？
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 最近几年海外账号查的越来越严 超过5000美元
: 都必须申报。你这些说不清道不明来历的海外钱
: 进出你名下 有洗钱嫌疑。由于反恐需要我感觉FBI
: 和irs开始合作盯拥有资金出入的海外账号。你解释的
: 清楚你的钱怎么成你的了嘛？你解释清楚你朋友的资金的来历吗。劝你还是小心些 不
: 碰微妙
: 其实你着朋友再占便宜啊 不论多少只要钱
: 转入到你名下 这就是你当年的income。就算
: 这些钱全都再股市里面赔光了 你还是欠IRS
: 税啊
| w********8
发帖数: 1671 | 30 帮人不是不好， 但是要量力而为， 你能承担到后果就可以. 最严重的后果是没收绿
卡？ 然后欠下一屁股债？
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| | | R******d
发帖数: 1108 | | t***u
发帖数: 20182 | | s******8
发帖数: 4192 | 33 lz别怕，这种事很常见。你不说谁都不知道。记得不要自己去报就好。美国中国都是。 | s********i
发帖数: 17328 | 34 任何事情都是撑死胆大的，饿死胆小的，没抓到就偷着乐，抓到了就愿赌服输，该罚款
罚款，该坐牢坐牢。 | s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 35 还没有，他昨天刚跟我说，还没开始操作。
【在 f****p 的大作中提到】
: 你这是找抽呀。
: 你都借了，还注意个屁呀！
| w********8
发帖数: 1671 | 36 这个跟借身份给人当贷款担保人有啥不一样？ 当担保最多就是赔钱， 欠一屁股债，
这个还有机会犯法。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 还没有，他昨天刚跟我说，还没开始操作。
| s******e
发帖数: 2181 | 37 同问，5000这个数字靠铺么？才3万多RMB，随便回去做个被邀演讲出场费都不止3w啊
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 最近几年海外账号查的越来越严 超过5000美元
: 都必须申报。你这些说不清道不明来历的海外钱
: 进出你名下 有洗钱嫌疑。由于反恐需要我感觉FBI
: 和irs开始合作盯拥有资金出入的海外账号。你解释的
: 清楚你的钱怎么成你的了嘛？你解释清楚你朋友的资金的来历吗。劝你还是小心些 不
: 碰微妙
: 其实你着朋友再占便宜啊 不论多少只要钱
: 转入到你名下 这就是你当年的income。就算
: 这些钱全都再股市里面赔光了 你还是欠IRS
: 税啊
| r*******r
发帖数: 2565 | 38 应该是5万
【在 z******e 的大作中提到】
: 到底是五千还是五万？
| r*******r
发帖数: 2565 | 39 你们在国内就没有别的朋友了吗？为什么要用美国绿卡的人的身份证，这不是没事找事
吗 | r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 40 期货的话，万一崩盘，你会负资产/欠款被追债
期货的话，万一大赚，你会被IRS追税
你是不管帐户亏赚你都吃亏 | | | n****a
发帖数: 782 | 41 没有关系的
亏了钱，跟你无关，损失的钱都是保证金，不会向你追索
赚了钱，IRS也查不到。你的美国绿卡跟中国身份证没有绑定。除非有人举报，查不到你
我也是美国绿卡，也帮朋友了一把
亲自回国开了银行户头和期货户头，然后把身份证银行卡股东卡都交给朋友了
他们资金期货对冲，需要大量的人头户头
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| n******g
发帖数: 536 | 42 是真朋友，就不会借你的身份证，造假就是害你 见过不少了。 | m*********h
发帖数: 5449 | 43 这神码逻辑，因为可能查不到所以犯法没关系？美国法律是无限期追溯的，30年后发现
也一样追究法律责任，到时候罚得更惨。
到你
【在 n****a 的大作中提到】
: 没有关系的
: 亏了钱，跟你无关，损失的钱都是保证金，不会向你追索
: 赚了钱，IRS也查不到。你的美国绿卡跟中国身份证没有绑定。除非有人举报，查不到你
: 我也是美国绿卡，也帮朋友了一把
: 亲自回国开了银行户头和期货户头，然后把身份证银行卡股东卡都交给朋友了
: 他们资金期货对冲，需要大量的人头户头
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 44 当然有关，借用你的中国身份，那就是和中国这边有关。借用你的美国身份
那就是和你的美国身份有关。
最近的几次和(FBAR)有关的案子
March 21, 2014 - Victor Lipukhin, formerly a resident of St. Charles,
Illinois, was indicted for attempting to interfere with the administration
of the Internal Revenue laws and filing false tax returns. Mr. Lipukhin, a
Russian citizen and former lawful permanent U.S. resident, kept between
approximately $4,000,000 and $7,500,000 in assets in two bank accounts with
UBS from at least 2002 through 2007.
March 18, 2014 — California attorney Christopher M. Rusch was sentenced to
10 months in prison for helping his clients Stephen M. Kerr and Michael
Quiel hide millions of dollars in secret offshore bank accounts. Mr. Rusch
pleaded guilty on Feb. 6, 2013, to conspiracy to defraud the government and
failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR).
February 26, 2014 — Christopher B. Berg, of Portola Valley, California, was
sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Prior to sentencing, Mr. Berg
paid more than $250,000 in restitution to the IRS, as well as a penalty of $
287,896 for failure to properly report his foreign account.
January 14, 2014 — H. Ty Warner (the creator of Beanie Babies plush toys)
of Chicago, Illinois, was sentenced to two years’ probation for tax evasion
. Mr. Warner has paid more than $53 million in a civil penalty, as well as
approximately $27 million in back taxes and interest.
October 24, 2013 — Dr. Patricia Lynn Hough, of Englewood, Florida, was
convicted of conspiring to defraud the IRS and filing false tax returns. Dr.
Hough and David Leon Fredrick were indicted in May 2013 for concealing
millions of dollars in assets and income in offshore bank accounts at UBS
and other foreign banks.
October 3, 2013 - H. Ty Warner (the creator of Beanie Babies plush toys)
pleaded guilty in Chicago, IL, to failing to pay taxes on money he hid from
the U.S. in a Swiss bank account. He admitted to failing to report $3.2
million in income on a secret UBS AG account that held as much as $93.6
million. Warner agreed to pay a civil penalty of almost $53.6 million and
also faces a fine of as much as $250,000. Tax evasion is punishable by as
long as five years in prison.
September 24, 2013 — Stephen M. Kerr and Michael Quiel were each sentenced
to 10 months in prison. Stephen M. Kerr and Michael Quiel were convicted of
failing to disclose secret offshore bank accounts in Switzerland. Mr. Kerr
and Mr. Quiel, prominent Phoenix businessmen, were each convicted of two
counts of filing false individual income tax returns for 2007 and 2008. Kerr
was also convicted of two counts of failing to file a Report of Foreign
Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR).
July 16, 2013 — Peter Troost, of Skokie, Illinois, was sentenced to 12
months and a day in prison for evading taxes on more than $3 million held in
offshore UBS accounts. Mr. Troost has already paid over $1 million in back
taxes, as well as a civil penalty of approximately $3.75 million.
April 25, 2013 — Mary Estelle Curran, of Palm Beach, Florida, was sentenced
for filing false tax returns. Ms. Curran pleaded guilty in January 2013 and
agreed to pay a civil penalty of $21 million.
March 21, 2013 — Rakesh Chitkara, of Marlboro, New Jersey, pleaded guilty
to filing false personal federal income tax returns. Mr. Chitkara must repay
back taxes and pay a civil penalty of $839,885 for willfully failing to
file Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs) on at least two
accounts at UBS AG in Zurich, Switzerland.
March 21, 2013 — Rakesh Chitkara, of Marlboro, New Jersey, pleaded guilty
to filing false personal federal income tax returns. Mr. Chitkara must repay
back taxes and pay a civil penalty of $839,885 for willfully failing to
file Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs) on at least two
accounts at UBS AG in Zurich, Switzerland.
October 11, 2012 — Wolfgang Roessel, of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, was
sentenced to three years probation. Mr. Roessel pleaded guilty in May 2012
to filing a false tax return and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank
and Financial Accounts (FBAR). The plea agreement includes a tax loss of
more than $312,000 and an FBAR penalty owed of more than $5,750,000.
July 30, 2012 — Sean and Nadia Roberts, of Tehachapi, California, were
sentenced to 12 months and one day in prison for hiding millions of dollars
in secret offshore bank accounts in Switzerland and other banks around the
world. They were also ordered to pay $709,675 in restitution to the IRS and
to pay more than $2.5 million in civil penalties failing to file Reports of
Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs).
July 25, 2012 — Luis A. Quintero, of Miami Beach, Florida, was sentenced to
four months in prison and fined $20,000. Mr. Quintero also paid a $2
million civil penalty. Mr. Quintero pleaded guilty in April 2012 to
willfully failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (
FBAR).
March 29, 2012 — Lothar Hoess was sentenced to three years of probation and
ordered to pay over $2 million in restitution for willfully failing to file
a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR).
Jan. 30, 2012 - Stephen M. Kerr, Michael Quiel and Christopher M. Rusch were
charged in Phoenix, Ariz., with conspiracy to defraud the IRS for
concealing millions of dollars in assets in numerous secret Swiss bank
accounts held at UBS and elsewhere.
Jan. 20, 2012 - Kenneth Heller, of New York, N.Y., was sentenced to 45 days
in prison and two years of supervised release. Heller pleaded guilty to
income tax evasion in June 2011 and admitted to hiding more than $26.4
million in a bank account at UBS AG. He has agreed to pay a civil penalty of
over $9.8 million.
Jan. 11, 2012 - Michael Reiss, a doctor, professor and medical researcher,
of Princeton, New Jersey, was sentenced to eight months in a community
confinement center for failing to file FBAR's with the IRS. Reiss pleaded
guilty in August 2011 and agreed to pay back taxes of at least $400,000 and
to pay a civil penalty of over $1.2 million.
Dec. 7, 2011 - Amir Zavieh, of San Francisco, Calif., was indicted with
conspiring to defraud the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). According to the
indictment, Zavieh concealed a bank account at UBS by placing his domestic
assets in the name of a nominee and failing to file income tax returns.
Nov. 9, 2011 - Robert E. Greeley, of San Francisco, was sentenced to three
years probation and ordered to pay $16,869 in restitution to the IRS. In
addition, Greeley will pay over $6.8 million in civil penalties and interest
. Greeley pleaded guilty in August 2011 to charges of filing a false federal
income tax return. He concealed more than $13 million in two bank accounts
he held with UBS AG.
Nov. 9, 2011 - Richard Werdiger, of Purchase, N.Y., was sentenced to one
year and one day in prison for conspiring to defraud the IRS by hiding more
than $7.1 million at UBS, filing false income tax returns and evading nearly
$400,000 in taxes. In addition, Werdiger agreed to pay a civil penalty of
over $3.8 million.
Oct. 5, 2011 - Peter Schober, of Boston, Mass., was sentenced to one month
in prison and six months of supervised release, of which two months will be
served in home confinement. Schober was also ordered to pay $77,870 in
restitution and a $777,986 civil penalty. In November 2010, Schober pleaded
guilty to willfully failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial
Accounts (FBAR) concealing over $1 million from the IRS.
July 14, 2011 - Anton Ginzburg pleaded guilty to failing to file a Report of
Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). Ginzburg agreed to pay a civil
penalty of over $1.5 million.
June 20, 2011 - Sean and Nadia Roberts, of Tehachapi, Calif., pleaded guilty
to filing a false tax return related to an undisclosed Swiss bank account
at UBS AG.
May 24, 2011 - Harry Abrahamsen, of Oradell, N.J., was sentenced to three
years probation, including 12 months of home confinement with electronic
monitoring, and ordered to pay $600,000 in restitution to the Internal
Revenue Service (IRS). In addition, Abrahamsen agreed to pay a civil penalty
in excess of $300,000. In April 2010, Abrahamsen pleaded guilty to failure
to file a (FBAR) report and admitted that he concealed over $1 million in
Swiss bank accounts.
May 23, 2011 - Lucille Abrahamsen Jackson, of Hilldale, N.J., was sentenced
to one year probation. In addition, Jackson agreed to pay a civil penalty in
excess of $379,000. Jackson pleaded guilty in November 2010 to filing a
false tax return and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial
Account (FBAR). She admitted to concealing over $750,000 in a UBS account by
transferring ownership of the account to a nominee Panamanian corporation.
April 21, 2011 - Ernest Vogliano, of Manhattan, N.Y., was sentenced to two
years probation and ordered to pay a $940,000 civil penalty. He pleaded
guilty on Dec. 22, 2010, to filing false tax returns and conspiring to
defraud the Internal Revenue Service by hiding $4.9 million in an offshore
bank account with UBS, AG.
March 14, 2011 - Jeffrey Chatfield, of San Diego, Calif., was sentenced to
three years' probation and ordered to pay more than $96,000 to resolve his
civil liability with the IRS for failing to file the required Reports of
Foreign Bank and Financial Reports (FBARs). Chatfield pleaded guilty on Nov.
18, 2010, to filing a false tax return in which he failed to report a UBS
account containing $900,000. Between 2000 and 2008, Chatfield transferred
the $900,000 through several offshore accounts of nominee entities.
March 8, 2011 - Edward Gurary, of Orange Village, Ohio, pleaded guilty to
filing false income tax returns for the years 2004 through 2008. Gurary
owned and controlled a financial account at UBS AG which was in the name of
a Bahamian entity and failed to report interest income earned on his tax
returns.
March 4, 2011 - Arthur Joel Eisenberg, of Seattle, Wash., was sentenced to
serve three years' probation and to pay a $2.1 million penalty for failing
to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Account (FBAR) form. Eisenberg
pleaded guilty in December 2010 to willfully filing a false tax return
which failed to report over $3.1 million in various UBS bank accounts.
Dec. 7, 2010 - Samuel Phineas Upham, of New York, N.Y., was indicted
conspiring with a family member to hide over $11 million in an offshore UBS
bank account. He also assisted in establishing a sham foundation in
Liechtenstein to further conceal money from the IRS.
Nov. 19, 2010 - Bernard Goldstein, of Carlsbad, Calif., was indicted for
conspiracy to defraud the IRS, filing false tax returns, and failing to file
Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Accounts (FBARs). Goldstein is alleged
to have transferred over $2 million in a UBS account to a sham Panamanian
corporation in an effort to conceal the account from the IRS.
Nov. 10, 2010 - Sybil Nancy Upham, of Manhattan, N.Y., pleaded guilty to
conspiring to defraud the IRS and subscribing to false federal income tax
returns. As part of her plea agreement, Upham has agreed to pay over $5.5
million in penalties for failure to file FBARs. On April 15, 2010, Upham was
indicted with five other individuals for hiding millions of dollars in
secret Swiss bank accounts.
Oct. 4, 2010 - Gregory Rudolph, of Brookline, Mass., pleaded guilty to
failing to comply with foreign bank account reporting requirements. UBS
bankers assisted Rudolph with creating a shell company registered in the
British Virgin Islands and a shell corporation registered in Hong Kong in
hiding in excess of $1 million. In October 2010, Rudolph was indicted with
Peter Schober.
Sept. 21, 2010 - Jules Robbins, of New York, N.Y., who owned and operated
watch distribution companies, was sentenced to one year probation and
ordered to pay a civil FBAR penalty of $20.8 million. Robbins set up a sham
Hong Kong corporation which was listed as the holder of an UBS account in an
effort to conceal his income from the IRS. This account and Robbins' other
offshore accounts collectively contained almost $42 million in unreported
income.
Sept. 17, 2010 - Federico Hernandez, of New York, N.Y., was sentenced to 12
months in prison, six months home confinement, and ordered to pay a civil
FBAR penalty of $4.4 million. Hernandez used sham companies set up in the
British Virgin Islands and Panama to conceal his ownership of UBS accounts
totaling $8.8 million.
July 1, 2010 - Leonid Zaltsberg, of Milltown, N.J., pleaded guilty to filing
a false tax return for 2003 and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank or
Financial Accounts (FBAR). In his plea agreement, Zaltsberg admitted
failing to disclose the existence of a Swiss bank account on his tax returns
for the years 2000 through 2006 and concealing over $2 million in his Swiss
account. On Dec. 20, 2010, Zaltsberg was sentenced to four years of
probation, including one year of home confinement. In addition, he was
ordered to pay civil penalties for failing to file an FBAR and a $3,000 fine.
April 15, 2010 - In Manhattan, N.Y., seven UBS clients were indicted for
collectively hiding over $100 million in secret Swiss bank accounts. Two of
these individuals, Jules Robbins and Federico Hernandez, pleaded guilty and
agreed to pay civil penalties of $20.8 million and $4.4 million,
respectively. The remaining indicted clients were Kenneth Heller, Sybil
Nancy Upham, Richard Werdiger, Ernest Vogliano and Shmuel Sternfeld.
April 13, 2010 - Paul Zabczuk, of The Woodlands, Texas, pleaded guilty to
filing a false tax return wherein he failed to report his interest in or
signature authority over financial accounts at UBS AG. Zabczuk was sentenced
on July 27, 2010, to three years of supervised release with one year served
in home detention and 150 hours community service. In addition, Zabczuk was
ordered to file accurate tax returns and pay all taxes, interest and
penalties due and owing to the IRS.
Feb. 4, 2010 - Jack Barouh of Golden Beach, Fla., pleaded guilty to filing a
false tax return. Barouh admitted to filing a false tax return for 2007 in
which he failed to report a foreign bank account. He was sentenced to 10
months in prison and ordered to pay all taxes, interest and penalties due
and owing.
Oct. 5, 2009 - Roberto Cittadini of Bellevue, Wash., pleaded guilty to
filing a false tax return and admitted to concealing nearly $2 million in
Swiss bank accounts. Cittadini, a retired sales manager for Boeing, failed
to file a Report Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts for 2001 through 2003.
Cittadini was sentenced on Jan. 8, 2010, to six months home detention and
one year supervised release and was ordered to pay a $10,000 fee and $17,985
in restitution.
Sept. 25, 2009 -Juergen Homann of Saddle River, N. J., pleaded guilty to
failure to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Accounts and accepted
responsibility for concealing more than $5 million in Swiss bank accounts.
Homann was sentenced on Jan. 6, 2010, to five years probation and was
ordered to pay a $60,000 fine.
Aug. 14, 2009 - John McCarthy of Malibu, Calif., pleaded guilty to failing
to inform the government of a Swiss bank account as part of a scheme to move
at least $1 million from the United States into Swiss bank accounts with
the goal of avoiding the payment of federal income taxes. McCarthy was
sentenced on March 22, 2010, to three years of supervised release with six
months served in home detention and 300 hours community service. In addition
, he was ordered to pay a $25,000 fine and to file tax returns for 2003
through 2008 and pay all taxes due and owing.
July 28, 2009 - Jeffrey P. Chernick of Stanfordville, N.Y., pleaded guilty
to charges of filing a false tax return. Chernick, who owns a corporation
which represents toy manufacturers in China and Hong Kong, accepted
responsibility for concealing more than $8 million in Swiss bank accounts.
Chernick was sentenced on Oct. 30, 2009, to three months in prison and one
year of supervised release with six months served in home detention.
June 25, 2009 - UBS client Steven Michael Rubinstein of Boca Raton, Fla.,
pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return for tax year 2004. On April 1,
2009, Rubinstein was charged with filing a false tax return that
intentionally failed to disclose the existence of a Swiss bank account
maintained by UBS of which he was the beneficial owner and failed to report
any income earned on that account. Rubinstein was sentenced on Oct. 28, 2009
, to three years probation, of which 12 months will be served in home
detention.
April 14, 2009 - Robert Moran of Lighthouse Point, Fla., pleaded guilty to a
criminal information charging him with filing a false income tax return.
Moran accepted responsibility for concealing more than $3 million in assets
in a secret bank account at UBS in Switzerland. Moran was sentenced on Nov.
6, 2009, to two months in prison and one year of supervised release with
five months in home confinement.
到你
【在 n****a 的大作中提到】
: 没有关系的
: 亏了钱，跟你无关，损失的钱都是保证金，不会向你追索
: 赚了钱，IRS也查不到。你的美国绿卡跟中国身份证没有绑定。除非有人举报，查不到你
: 我也是美国绿卡，也帮朋友了一把
: 亲自回国开了银行户头和期货户头，然后把身份证银行卡股东卡都交给朋友了
: 他们资金期货对冲，需要大量的人头户头
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 45 以前我在银行wire money，职员好心告诉我，把一万美元改成9千9，这样不算大额，不
会trigger FBI monitor的flag，这还是反恐之前。钱走来走去都是很重要的事情，借
用你的名头，你要承担风险和责任。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| p****e
发帖数: 3548 | 46 人家愿意冒这个险，说明会有相应的回报，就不要过分操心了
就像操股有亏废的风险，大家还不是照样上么
with
to
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 当然有关，借用你的中国身份，那就是和中国这边有关。借用你的美国身份
: 那就是和你的美国身份有关。
: 最近的几次和(FBAR)有关的案子
: March 21, 2014 - Victor Lipukhin, formerly a resident of St. Charles,
: Illinois, was indicted for attempting to interfere with the administration
: of the Internal Revenue laws and filing false tax returns. Mr. Lipukhin, a
: Russian citizen and former lawful permanent U.S. resident, kept between
: approximately $4,000,000 and $7,500,000 in assets in two bank accounts with
: UBS from at least 2002 through 2007.
: March 18, 2014 — California attorney Christopher M. Rusch was sentenced to
| N*******r
发帖数: 317 | | c*****l
发帖数: 806 | 48 为朋友两肋插刀，当然要帮忙了
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 我是股市门外汉，现在美国有绿卡，没入籍。
: 有个信得过的好朋友，非中国籍，要在沪深炒股，而且流量会比较大，但是需要一个具
: 有中国大陆国籍的人注册户头。
: 对这个朋友我是100%信任的，也愿意帮忙，更何况是他把钱都放在我的名下。但是想避
: 免不必要的麻烦，他和我对中国的政策以及美国关于海外资产的政策都不太了解，请问
: 有哪位了解整个过程我们有什么需要注意的吗？比如我在中国和美国的报税，资产来源
: 解释之类的。
: 谢谢！
| n******g
发帖数: 536 | 49 我也希望朋友替我两肋插刀，就像毛委员当年希望热血青年为党牺牲一样，我会记得他
的。
【在 c*****l 的大作中提到】
: 为朋友两肋插刀，当然要帮忙了
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 50 真是没什么回报，如果我清楚回报和风险我就不会来这里问了。
关键是不懂啊...
【在 p****e 的大作中提到】
: 人家愿意冒这个险，说明会有相应的回报，就不要过分操心了
: 就像操股有亏废的风险，大家还不是照样上么
:
: with
: to
| | | w********r
发帖数: 41 | 51 我看你是真傻，回去多吃点婴幼儿奶粉，不要在这里让人笑话了。
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 真是没什么回报，如果我清楚回报和风险我就不会来这里问了。
: 关键是不懂啊...
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 52 啥也别说了，你发包子吧
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 真是没什么回报，如果我清楚回报和风险我就不会来这里问了。
: 关键是不懂啊...
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 53 如果我用父母的身份开户，只要不爆仓就没有别的问题了吧? 爆仓可能通过broker的设
定完全避免吗？谢谢
钱,
悠.
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 你自己的有税上面的风险, 用你父母的. 没问题.
: 期货是有杠杆, 但是有margin的, 一半不会爆仓. 钱不够了, 会margin call, 不补钱,
: broker可以强行平仓. 在钱上, 你没有风险. 也没有人会追债. 别听这些人瞎说忽悠.
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 54 包子一定发，还没问完
如果用父母身份开户，可能有什么问题吗？有可能完全避免爆仓吗？
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 啥也别说了，你发包子吧
| s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 55 被人笑话总比真的被套进去强
【在 w********r 的大作中提到】
: 我看你是真傻，回去多吃点婴幼儿奶粉，不要在这里让人笑话了。
| t*******l
发帖数: 3662 | 56 中国政府对于外汇流入流出似乎有不对称的管制
国外的钱进入中国相对容易些 但是一旦获利 出来
就很难 但是你再投资而不出来可能又没人管
如果不借用你的海外身份 你搞明白怎么将来把获利
的钱转移到国外的办法了？这个反正肯定有各种野路子 我不知道 但不会简单 也不可
能没有风险
当然你要说这钱就不指望再从中国出来了 那很好
你这朋友够意思 送你几百万给你父母养老 好啊 | s***r
发帖数: 2604 | 57 谢谢，怎么把钱弄出去是他们的问题，我现在要确定的是我爸妈别莫名奇妙背上债。
【在 t*******l 的大作中提到】
: 中国政府对于外汇流入流出似乎有不对称的管制
: 国外的钱进入中国相对容易些 但是一旦获利 出来
: 就很难 但是你再投资而不出来可能又没人管
: 如果不借用你的海外身份 你搞明白怎么将来把获利
: 的钱转移到国外的办法了？这个反正肯定有各种野路子 我不知道 但不会简单 也不可
: 能没有风险
: 当然你要说这钱就不指望再从中国出来了 那很好
: 你这朋友够意思 送你几百万给你父母养老 好啊
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