l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 1 大牛帮着看看：
https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-changes-Vales-outlook-to-negative-
affirms-all-ratings--PR_325035?WT.mc_id=AM%
7eWWFob29fRmluYW5jZV9TQl9SYXRpbmcgTmV3c19BbGxfRW5n%7e20150512_PR_325035
Moody's changes Vale's outlook to negative; affirms all ratings
Global Credit Research - 12 May 2015
New York, May 12, 2015 -- Moody's Investors Service changed the rating
outlook for Vale S.A. (Vale) and related ratings to negative from stable. At
the same time, Moody's affirmed Vale's Baa2 senior unsecured rating, its (P
)Baa2 senior unsecured rating under its well-known seasoned issuer shelf
registration, and the Baa2 ratings on the foreign currency debt issues of
Vale Overseas (guaranteed by Vale) as well as Vale Overseas' (P)Baa2 senior
unsecured shelf rating. Moody's also affirmed the Baa2 senior unsecured
ratings of Vale Canada (not guaranteed by Vale).
At the same time, Moody's América Latina affirmed Vale's Baa2 global scale
local currency rating and Aaa.br National Scale Rating (NSR) as well as the
Baa2 global scale local currency rating and Aaa.br NSR on Vale's BRL 750
million senior unsecured notes (Debentures de Infraestrutura). For further
information, please see the ratings tab on the issuer/entity page for the
respective issuer on www.moodys.com.br.
Outlook Actions:
..Issuer: Vale Canada Ltd.
....Outlook, Changed To Negative From Stable
..Issuer: Vale Overseas Limited
....Outlook, Changed To Negative From Stable
..Issuer: Vale S.A.
....Outlook, Changed To Negative From Stable |
e****6
发帖数: 387 | 2 这个股票现在还在20均线之上。。担心什么呢
At
(P
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 大牛帮着看看：
: https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-changes-Vales-outlook-to-negative-
: affirms-all-ratings--PR_325035?WT.mc_id=AM%
: 7eWWFob29fRmluYW5jZV9TQl9SYXRpbmcgTmV3c19BbGxfRW5n%7e20150512_PR_325035
: Moody's changes Vale's outlook to negative; affirms all ratings
: Global Credit Research - 12 May 2015
: New York, May 12, 2015 -- Moody's Investors Service changed the rating
: outlook for Vale S.A. (Vale) and related ratings to negative from stable. At
: the same time, Moody's affirmed Vale's Baa2 senior unsecured rating, its (P
: )Baa2 senior unsecured rating under its well-known seasoned issuer shelf
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 3 明天要去50日均线， $7.07 ?
【在 e****6 的大作中提到】
: 这个股票现在还在20均线之上。。担心什么呢
:
: At
: (P
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x**h
发帖数: 1519 | 4 50日均线不是6.5吗？
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 明天要去50日均线， $7.07 ?
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 5 我就只能HOLD， 等李克强总理给巴西大订单，帮我解套并且获利了。
【在 x**h 的大作中提到】
: 50日均线不是6.5吗？
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 6 李克强访问巴西，对 VALE 没有大的利好，因为要签的单子是"Aircraft, farm deals
”：
"Aircraft, farm deals on the table for China's Li in S.America"
BEIJING, May 13 (Reuters) - Chinese Premier Li Keqiang will sign aircraft,
currency and agricultural deals when he visits South America next week, an
official said on Wednesday, a part of the world where China has deep trade
ties but traditionally limited political influence.
Li will travel to Brazil, Colombia, Peru and Chile on the May 17-29 trip,
and, as is common with visits by top Chinese leaders to resource-rich
nations, will sign what will likely be a series of impressive agreements.
China, the world's second-largest economy, is buying oil from Venezuela,
copper from Peru and Chile and soybeans from Argentina and Brazil, for
example. Peru and Chile also both have free trade deals with China, and
Colombia is looking at one.
In return, China has invested a total of more than $100 billion as of the
end of last year, according to Assistant Chinese Commerce Minister Tong
Daochi.
"During Premier Li's visit to these four countries, we will discuss
important issues like industrial cooperation, infrastructure, free trade
zones, technical economic cooperation, training and financial support," Tong
told reporters.
"We expect that through further deepening this cooperation, China and Latin
America will join hands to promote global prosperity and recovery."
Giving a flavor of what would be agreed, Tong said that China and Chile
would sign currency swap and yuan settlement agreements, while in Brazil
there would be a Brazilian beef export deal.
In January, Chinese President Xi Jinping pledged $250 billion in investment
in Latin America over the next 10 years as part of a drive to boost resource
-hungry China's influence in a region long dominated by the United States.
Last year, China and Brazil agreed $7.5 billion in financing for Brazilian
miner Vale SA and the purchase of 60 passenger jets from planemaker Embraer.
Without naming Embraer, Tong said that aviation would be another focus area
for Li in Brazil.
"On this visit by Premier Li, we will discuss further purchases and
cooperation with Brazil on aviation," he said.
China would like to import more value-added products from Latin America,
Tong added, rather than just relying on raw materials such as iron ore,
sugar and soy beans.
"We hope that Latin American countries, particularly these four, can develop
the Chinese market more, and export more products which suit Chinese
consumers," he said.
(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Nick Macfie) |
b******6
发帖数: 179 | 7 之前一个月VALE是什么原因大涨呢，从不到6冲到9？现在又慢慢滑到7.。 |
l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 8 现在网上说，那时是机构短期炒作获利。
【在 b******6 的大作中提到】
: 之前一个月VALE是什么原因大涨呢，从不到6冲到9？现在又慢慢滑到7.。
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h*******5
发帖数: 233 | |
l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 10 昨天 VALE 评级变得更差，应该卖掉VALE，再跌再买。这种信息导致股票只有跌的份。
但我现在是卖了股票，资金当天不能回来，所以不敢卖，因为没资金，怕卖了没钱低价
买回。
现在，不知道机构为了下一波炒作，会把 VALE 砸到几块钱去吸筹。网上说去 5 美元
也不是
完全不可能，因为为机构未来短期炒作，带来了巨大的收益空间。
【在 h*******5 的大作中提到】
: 站在山岗上阿。
: 应该捂还是割
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b******6
发帖数: 179 | 11 完了，昨天刚捞了7.1。。。呜呜，park大牛快来呀 |
l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 12 他看的是中长线，中长线应该是会涨的。当前是担心VALE这么跌下去，资金损失太厉害。
【在 b******6 的大作中提到】
: 完了，昨天刚捞了7.1。。。呜呜，park大牛快来呀
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b******6
发帖数: 179 | 13 好吧，那就捂着。。。
：他看的是中长线，中长线应该是会涨的。当前是担心VALE这么跌下去，资金损失太厉
害。
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e******e
发帖数: 2530 | 14 反弹了。。
VALE股性太活，上下都很猛，上次2月初7-8满仓入，满眼是泪啊，很占用资金。
不过捂了两个月，8.X的时候跑掉了。
这次手贱7.6X,7.1X继续捞，如果不止跌的话打算跑掉了，也许会测试前面的低点5.45. |
l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 15 同意。这庄家太猛了。散户被他玩疯了。估计是昨天盘后那么多大单子逢低入的，搞出
来的今天的反弹。不知道反弹能否持续。庄家想赚钱，往下砸VALE， 只能对他更有利。
45.
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 反弹了。。
: VALE股性太活，上下都很猛，上次2月初7-8满仓入，满眼是泪啊，很占用资金。
: 不过捂了两个月，8.X的时候跑掉了。
: 这次手贱7.6X,7.1X继续捞，如果不止跌的话打算跑掉了，也许会测试前面的低点5.45.
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m******t
发帖数: 211 | 16 在股票市场，短期还是应该顺应潮流，看市场的心理而不是看股票价值。你捂着，长期
看帐面上没亏，但是你损失了一次赚钱的机会。捂着还是丢出去，看你的策略。
【在 b******6 的大作中提到】
: 好吧，那就捂着。。。
:
: ：他看的是中长线，中长线应该是会涨的。当前是担心VALE这么跌下去，资金损失太厉
: 害。
: ：
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e******e
发帖数: 2530 | 17 上周三最高9.14，这周三7.12， 一周时间就被砸下来25%， 这个庄家实在是太狠了。
我做波段部分上周三看到形势不对8.68跑掉了，这周一没人住7.6就捡回来了，昨天7.
15又捡回部分，感觉还是耐心不够，原本上周卖掉的时候根据最高9.14，最低5.45，第
一回调点7.7附近，第二回调点7.2附近，第三回调点6.8附近。
要是能够耐心等到第二个回调点就好了。今天早上往下砸的时候应该是个好的入点，风
险比较低，设5%的止损应该比较好操作。
利。
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 同意。这庄家太猛了。散户被他玩疯了。估计是昨天盘后那么多大单子逢低入的，搞出
: 来的今天的反弹。不知道反弹能否持续。庄家想赚钱，往下砸VALE， 只能对他更有利。
:
: 45.
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U*****d
发帖数: 13 | 18 最坏的消息使澳洲铁矿巨头拒绝减产，存心要把淡水河谷逼死 |
p*****3
发帖数: 1331 | 19 股息到账是7一12号，10多亿资金，炸下来才能䃼，然后铁矿石再拉第二波。铁
矿石期货在中国，感觉炒作手法就象中国创业扳手法。凶猛。有可能铁矿石第二波拉升
之90美元，那么VALE可能就是11一12元。前提是美元指数回落到89（前期就预测到这种
可能性）。在观察观察。这种可能性是具备各方面条件的。
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 上周三最高9.14，这周三7.12， 一周时间就被砸下来25%， 这个庄家实在是太狠了。
: 我做波段部分上周三看到形势不对8.68跑掉了，这周一没人住7.6就捡回来了，昨天7.
: 15又捡回部分，感觉还是耐心不够，原本上周卖掉的时候根据最高9.14，最低5.45，第
: 一回调点7.7附近，第二回调点7.2附近，第三回调点6.8附近。
: 要是能够耐心等到第二个回调点就好了。今天早上往下砸的时候应该是个好的入点，风
: 险比较低，设5%的止损应该比较好操作。
:
: 利。
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e******e
发帖数: 2530 | 20 赞大牛思路，关键是砸下来到多低，这个低要多久才能拉下拨，关注着吧
【在 p*****3 的大作中提到】
: 股息到账是7一12号，10多亿资金，炸下来才能䃼，然后铁矿石再拉第二波。铁
: 矿石期货在中国，感觉炒作手法就象中国创业扳手法。凶猛。有可能铁矿石第二波拉升
: 之90美元，那么VALE可能就是11一12元。前提是美元指数回落到89（前期就预测到这种
: 可能性）。在观察观察。这种可能性是具备各方面条件的。
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p*****3
发帖数: 1331 | 21 应该说风险很小，密切关注，一有风吹草动，立马再赌一把。
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 赞大牛思路，关键是砸下来到多低，这个低要多久才能拉下拨，关注着吧
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b******6
发帖数: 179 | |
e******e
发帖数: 2530 | 23 假反弹，被套了，呜呜。。。
【在 b******6 的大作中提到】
: 呜呜，又开始跌了
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 24 又一个坏消息。VALE 惨了 ：
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Shares of Brazilian iron ore producer Vale (VALE -
Get Report) were flat at $7.11 in early afternoon trading Thursday after
peer company BHP Billiton (BHP) defended its strategy of increasing iron
ore output during a global oversupply.
The company stood by its approach even as iron ore prices have declined
approximately 40% in the past 12 months.
"This is a market which is highly competitive. It's cyclical, and so our
performance will be dependent on being the most efficient supplier and it
shouldn't be dependent on supply restraint," BHP iron ore marketing VP Alan
Chirgwin said at a conference, according to Bloomberg.
Chirgwin added that global iron ore supply could grow by 100 million to 110
million metric tons this year, but demand is only estimated to grow by 30
million to 40 million metric tons. He also noted that "supply growth over
the last 12 months has outpaced demand growth and that will keep pressure on
prices next year."
Separately, TheStreet Ratings team rates VALE SA as a Sell with a ratings
score of D. TheStreet Ratings Team has this to say about their
recommendation:
"We rate VALE SA (VALE) a SELL. This is driven by a few notable weaknesses,
which we believe should have a greater impact than any strengths, and could
make it more difficult for investors to achieve positive results compared to
most of the stocks we cover. Among the areas we feel are negative, one of
the most important has been a generally disappointing historical performance
in the stock itself."
Highlights from the analysis by TheStreet Ratings Team goes as follows:
◾VALE's stock share price has done very poorly compared to where it
was a year ago: Despite any rallies, the net result is that it is down by 42
.15%, which is also worse that the performance of the S&P 500 Index.
Investors have so far failed to pay much attention to the earnings
improvements the company has managed to achieve over the last quarter.
Although its share price is down sharply from a year ago, do not assume that
it can now be tagged as cheap and attractive. The reality is that, based on
its current price in relation to its earnings, VALE is still more expensive
than most of the other companies in its industry.
◾The return on equity has improved slightly when compared to the same
quarter one year prior. This can be construed as a modest strength in the
organization. Compared to other companies in the Metals & Mining industry
and the overall market on the basis of return on equity, VALE SA
underperformed against that of the industry average and is significantly
less than that of the S&P 500.
◾VALE SA reported significant earnings per share improvement in the
most recent quarter compared to the same quarter a year ago. The company has
demonstrated a pattern of positive earnings per share growth over the past
year. However, we anticipate underperformance relative to this pattern in
the coming year. During the past fiscal year, VALE SA increased its bottom
line by earning $0.13 versus $0.01 in the prior year. For the next year, the
market is expecting a contraction of 107.7% in earnings (-$0.01 versus $0.
13).
◾VALE's debt-to-equity ratio of 0.67 is somewhat low overall, but it
is high when compared to the industry average, implying that the management
of the debt levels should be evaluated further. Regardless of the somewhat
mixed results with the debt-to-equity ratio, the company's quick ratio of 0.
85 is weak.
◾Regardless of the drop in revenue, the company managed to outperform
against the industry average of 18.2%. Since the same quarter one year prior
, revenues fell by 15.7%. The declining revenue has not hurt the company's
bottom line, with increasing earnings per share.
◾You can view the full analysis from the report here: VALE Ratings
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 25 澳洲铁矿巨头现在确定要逼死 VALE。刚出来的消息，它拒绝减产。
【在 U*****d 的大作中提到】
: 最坏的消息使澳洲铁矿巨头拒绝减产，存心要把淡水河谷逼死
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e******e
发帖数: 2530 | 26 我说今天怎么反弹无力。。。这个利空下感觉要见新低啊，密切关注，随时止损。
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲铁矿巨头现在确定要逼死 VALE。刚出来的消息，它拒绝减产。
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 27 太对了。
【在 m******t 的大作中提到】
: 在股票市场，短期还是应该顺应潮流，看市场的心理而不是看股票价值。你捂着，长期
: 看帐面上没亏，但是你损失了一次赚钱的机会。捂着还是丢出去，看你的策略。
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l*****g
发帖数: 391 | 28 期盼亚投行赶紧成立，给VALE 些生意，否则 VALE 股票得到 4美元去了。
【在 p*****3 的大作中提到】
: 股息到账是7一12号，10多亿资金，炸下来才能䃼，然后铁矿石再拉第二波。铁
: 矿石期货在中国，感觉炒作手法就象中国创业扳手法。凶猛。有可能铁矿石第二波拉升
: 之90美元，那么VALE可能就是11一12元。前提是美元指数回落到89（前期就预测到这种
: 可能性）。在观察观察。这种可能性是具备各方面条件的。
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l*********m
发帖数: 446 | 29 不对啊，是要逼死FMG和国内矿山。
淡水河谷死不了的。
【在 U*****d 的大作中提到】
: 最坏的消息使澳洲铁矿巨头拒绝减产，存心要把淡水河谷逼死
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k*****o
发帖数: 1486 | 30 这才是真正能跟庄的大牛！！！！Or，你难道就是带虾米赚钱的好庄？？？~~哈哈哈
【在 p*****3 的大作中提到】
: 股息到账是7一12号，10多亿资金，炸下来才能䃼，然后铁矿石再拉第二波。铁
: 矿石期货在中国，感觉炒作手法就象中国创业扳手法。凶猛。有可能铁矿石第二波拉升
: 之90美元，那么VALE可能就是11一12元。前提是美元指数回落到89（前期就预测到这种
: 可能性）。在观察观察。这种可能性是具备各方面条件的。
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