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p**********m
发帖数: 92
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怎么瑞士与美国成了藏富之国
而不是曹县?
如果你没有给普金类的独裁者大量金援,或者代持股份与资产,
问心无愧,
资产来源合法,
为何要过度担心这个分散问题?
再说,阿布的资产只是冻结,没有没收。
具体他和其他鹅毛富豪的资产
要不要没收,没收多少,具体问题具体分析对待,
相信法治的国家都有法可依
i*****9
发帖数: 3157
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法制也要看如何定义法,法的解释权是基于法律文本还是基于选民意志。

【在 p**********m 的大作中提到】
: 怎么瑞士与美国成了藏富之国
: 而不是曹县?
: 如果你没有给普金类的独裁者大量金援,或者代持股份与资产,
: 问心无愧,
: 资产来源合法,
: 为何要过度担心这个分散问题?
: 再说,阿布的资产只是冻结,没有没收。
: 具体他和其他鹅毛富豪的资产
: 要不要没收,没收多少,具体问题具体分析对待,
: 相信法治的国家都有法可依

t**8
发帖数: 4527
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这种事不必过虑
大不了自己执行正义行动
p****o
发帖数: 1100
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russians-money-insight-idUKKCN2LR11R?utm_source=34553&utm_medium=partner
Sanctioned or not, Russians abroad find their money is 'toxic'
建议先读一读上面的文章
p****o
发帖数: 1100
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LONDON/ZURICH/NEW YORK (Reuters) - Yevgeny Chichvarkin, a telecoms tycoon
who fled Russia in 2008 and became a high-profile London restaurateur, has
long been a vocal supporter of Ukraine.
Together with wife Tatiana Fokina, the multimillionaire says he has sent
four truckloads of medical and protective equipment to Poland to help
Ukrainians since the Russian invasion on Feb. 24.
Chichvarkin, a burly man with a waxed moustache, said he drove the first
load himself.
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But the 48-year-old entrepreneur, a long-time critic of Russian President
Vladimir Putin, said he has just unexpectedly had one of his Swiss bank
accounts frozen. He declined to say by which bank.
Tatiana Fokina and her husband Yevgeny Chichvarkin are photographed in their
Mayfair bar in London
© Reuters/DYLAN MARTINEZ Tatiana Fokina and her husband Yevgeny
Chichvarkin are photographed in their Mayfair bar in London
Chichvarkin is one of a growing number of Russians living abroad who are
finding issues accessing their money, even when they are not the direct
targets of Western sanctions.
Reuters interviews with nine Russians living overseas - as well as their
wealth managers, lawyers, tax advisers, real estate and art brokers -
suggest that Western sanctions meant to punish Putin's inner circle are also
broadly ensnaring Russian passport holders.
Four Russians living overseas with dual citizenship described banks freezing
their accounts or payments in London, Zurich and Paris. One wealthy émigr
é in London said he had switched to cash to make purchases and was keeping
a low profile.
Two wealth advisors and a lawyer described applications for bank accounts by
Russian clients being rejected. Banks said they were taking extra
precautions with Russian money. And three brokers said some real estate and
art deals had stalled.
A Canadian-American lawyer said his Russian clients were afraid to take
international trips for fear of being stopped at customs as Western banks
cast a wide blanket of suspicion on Russian money - even donations to
charities. Dual passports no longer provide escape routes as they once did.
Tatiana Fokina and her husband Yevgeny Chichvarkin are photographed in their
Mayfair bar in London
© Reuters/DYLAN MARTINEZ Tatiana Fokina and her husband Yevgeny
Chichvarkin are photographed in their Mayfair bar in London
"I am dealing with Russians who can't get out of hotels, students who have
no money because credit cards are valueless," said Bob Amsterdam, a founding
partner of Washington- and London-based law firm Amsterdam & Partners.
"Banks ... are refusing Russians bank accounts: they are closing their doors
to Russians on nationality," said Amsterdam, who is based in London. "
Leading law firms in the City have closed their doors to Russians in terms
of nationality."
'YOU NEED TO BE VERY QUIET'
Several lawyers representing wealthy Russians in Europe spoke about a
pervasive climate of distrust. One tax and wealth planning expert, who asked
not to be named due to a climate that she said penalized association with
Russia, said that Russians were being scrutinized regardless of their place
of residence or wealth.
"Currently, everything that is Russian is toxic, which means that everyone
is trying to be extremely, extremely careful in terms of what to do with
Russian clients," said the lawyer, a dual Russian and British citizen, who
runs a law firm in Zurich.
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Journalist Elena Servettaz, a dual citizen who has lived in France since
2005, said French bank Crédit Mutuel rejected a transfer of less than 1,000
euros to her account -- money sent to her from London to support Ukrainian
refugee aid efforts.
When Servettaz called the bank, she was told the transaction had been
flagged due to her Russian nationality. Servettaz received the money more
than a week later.
"It's so unfair when you are part of the Russian opposition, you're helping
Ukrainian refugees, and they're saying you're Russian so you can't have your
money," Servettaz said.
Crédit Mutuel said that European banks were obliged to apply "the greatest
prudence" in scrutinising transactions that could be affected by E.U.
sanctions, and that additional checks required to ensure compliance could
lead to delays, though it was doing its best to limit the effects on
customers.
A Crédit Mutuel spokesperson said in an emailed statement that the
situation relating to Servetta "was quickly resolved once the customer sent
us the requested information."
Reuters reported this month that European Union regulators have told some
banks to scrutinise transactions by all Russian and Belarusian clients,
including EU residents.
Some wealth managers in Europe have sought to distance themselves from
economic and political fallout. Switzerland's Julius Baer this month began
blocking new business with Russian clients, two sources familiar with the
operations said. UBS CEO Ralph Hamers said all Russian passport holders have
effectively become semi-sanctioned.
Julius Baer said it was not accepting new Russian clients with a Russian
domicile but continued to serve existing Russian clients "in compliance with
all applicable laws, regulations or sanctions."
Russian writer Grigory Chkhartishvili, who lives in London and whose last
name is Georgian, successfully transferred a sum of money through British
bank Barclays to support his Ukrainian refugee assistance charity, True
Russia.
But his wife, whose last name is Russian, was blocked by Barclays when
attempting to send money to the same charity, he said. The bank requested a
face-to-face interview with her.
"My sum was ten times bigger, but it was no problem," Chkhartishvili said. "
It shows the atmosphere."
Chkhartishvili said his wife, who declined to be interviewed by Reuters and
asked for her name not to be made public, had told him she was able to
transfer the money the next day after she called the bank and explained that
she was helping Ukrainian refugees.
Barclays did not respond to a request for comment.
A wealthy Russian oil and banking magnate, who asked not to be identified so
he could speak freely about his financial situation, said he felt he had
become "collateral damage" from Russia's invasion - which Moscow calls a "
special operation".
Based in London for three decades, he said he still had businesses in Russia
and was anxious about greater financial restrictions, despite not being on
a sanctions list.
"I have some savings," he said, adding he was considering selling European
assets. "You need to live out of cash ... You need to be very quiet."
'RUSSOPHOBIA'
In the basement of one of his newest ventures, The White Horse pub in London
's upmarket Mayfair district, Chichvarkin says he is confident his lawyers
will be able to unfreeze his Swiss bank account.
It is the only account of his that has been frozen, he said. He believes
that is because it is the only one he opened with a Russian passport.
At the same time, Chichvarkin believes his and his wife's opposition to
Putin and the war, as well as their vocal support for Ukraine, has helped
protect their businesses from anti-Russian hostility by customers and the
public, stirred by what Fokina calls "Putin's war".
Still, their Michelin-starred restaurant Hide - which they own alongside
wine boutique Hedonism Wines, where a bottle can cost 124,000 pounds ($163,
500) - received a one-star Google review about two weeks into the war,
Fokina's assistant said.
The rare poor review, among 1,767 others that give the restaurant an average
4.5-star rating, said simply: "Russian owned". It has since been removed.
"You read about people cancelling Tchaikovsky concerts, people vandalising
Russian food shops," said Fokina. "This is London 2022. How did we get here
so quickly?"
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