y***r 发帖数: 16594 | 1 今天 GME AMC 带领的 垃圾股又开始爆拉了。 | a*******m 发帖数: 14194 | 2 看你对我还挺有情分的状况, share一下给你看看,不保证正确,做个参考。
下午,我再来删贴,实在不想跟股版的傻逼玩了。
发信人: awaydream (昆仑天下), 信区: club168
标 题: Fed Minute 个人解读 by awaydream
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 16:41:31 2022, 美东)
1. Fed的委员对经济比较乐观,多次说2nd quarter的GDP在增长, 形势比较乐观,
不像1st 季度那样的衰退。实际我认为,这帮人又过度乐观了,又要被市场打成猪头。
2nd季度的前半季度可能还凑合,后半季度,房市,二手车等凉得很明显,他们什么也
没提,感觉这些货真是有点够呛。
2. Fed的委员讲起通胀,就说俄乌战争,中国covid封锁,供应链破坏等等,丝毫不提
自己
多年来印了超额的货币,自己长期扭曲利率,导致市场投机盛行,还想着自己随便搞搞,
就能再次回到2%的通胀的年代。这也是做梦。
3. 初步准备7月份加息0.5-0.75. 鉴于6月加息 0.75,几乎全票通过,一旦2nd GDP 是
正的
(可能性不大,要到07/28才出结果,而fed会议在07/25-07/26),6月CPI还是偏高(
可能性
较小),还是有可能加息0.75的。 不过整体而言,加0.75的可能性不大。
4. Fed自己说,如果自己控制不住通胀,就没有信用了,别人不信了,就更难操作,所
以,
必须要采取尽可能的措施控制通胀。其实Y的credit再就败光了,从transitory
inflation到
不考虑加0.75(结果加了),信用早就败光了,打嘴炮不顶用了,必须要真枪实弹才行
了。该打枪
的时候,2021年初,需要停止够买mbs,减少灌水,他继续打枪;现在,通胀逐步冷却
了,Fed又来
劲了,真他妈的傻逼。
5.号称要按原定计划缩表,并预计经济会cool down一些
6. 总之,Fed对2nd季度的经济的估计又翻沟里了,还是一如既往的二就是了。
我的大概判断:
1. 6月 CPI要撤退了,可能会到8.3%,Fed开会时就应该知道了。
2. 2nd季度GDP就算不减少,也好不了了,到开会时,Fed的那些货应该知道差不多了。
3. 有些季报可能也要出来了,能看到经济的状况了,不会好的。
4. 7月fed开会,fed自己的胆子又被吓碎了,也就加0.5。
5. Fed不说死话,总是说看通胀和经济的情况,随时调整政策,我感觉,这些货有集体
下跪
减慢加息速度的可能。
6.至于通胀,回到2%就是做梦了,fed还在做梦,等着看什么时候梦醒吧。
对于股市的影响:
1. 感觉短期好不了了,要熬很长一段时间了。
2. Fed开完7月的会再看,人家政策变动很大,现在做长期预测意义不大。
3. 6月CPI很关键, 如果CPI降下来了, 经济又不好, Fed随时变怂。
4. Fed也没有多少强硬的本钱,把GDP和就业搞崩了,一大群失业人口找
政府,政府又得搞Fed,抽这条听话的狗。
5. 中期选举日子不多了,就剩4个月了,Biden政府会对Fed施压,看Fed怎么搞吧
6. 这次的纪要谈不上Fed有多强硬,只能表明fed还是一如既往的二逼,完全没有判断
能力而已。
7. 如我分析的话,通胀下降,GDP衰退,Fed认怂,7月底开会加息0.5,变调子的话,
股市那时可能有见底的可能。
扯太多了,也不一定对,欢迎大家读读那个英文报告,再来交流下心得,
增强认识。
发信人: awaydream (昆仑天下), 信区: club168
标 题: Re: Fed Minute 个人解读 by awaydream
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 7 08:36:03 2022, 美东)
Barron 的报告意思和我差不多, 但是晚了一天
The Fed’s Minutes Are Hawkish. They Also May Be Out of Date.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/fed-fomc-minutes-release-today-rate-hikes-
51657050467
Updated July 6, 2022 4:20 pm ET / Original July 6, 2022 4:00 am ET
Minutes from the Federal Reserve’s June 14-15 meeting reveal central
bankers’ growing anxiety over inflation and plans to adopt a restrictive
policy stance in order to cool rapidly rising prices.
The minutes read hawkish. Major stock indexes, however, rose after the
release as investors consider economic developments since the Fed last met
and bet that flagging economic growth will ultimately limit the amount of
tightening the central bank must conduct. Both the S&P 500SPX +0.36% and
Nasdaq 100NDX +0.62% gained about 1% within an hour of the release.
Members of the Federal Open Market Committee, the Fed’s policy-setting arm,
agreed in June that a rate increase of 0.5 percentage point or 0.75
percentage point would likely be appropriate in July after they agreed to a
0.75-percentage-point hike in June. That was the biggest rate increase since
1994, prompted by a hot consumer price index and a surprise jump in
consumer inflation expectations’ just before the June meeting. Those two
data points dashed hopes that inflation had already peaked and set off alarm
bells that inflation is becoming entrenched.
Investors already knew that the Fed is between a half-point and another
three-quarter point hike for July. Fed Chairman Powell suggested the base-
case is the former, though he hasn’t taken another 0.75-point increase off
the table. Traders have priced in about a 90% chance of a 0.75-point
increase in July, and the minutes should do nothing to change that
expectation.
Where the question remains is what happens after July. On their face, the
latest meeting minutes indicate the Fed will remain aggressive, with 0.5-
percentage-point hikes the new 0.25-point moves and officials suggesting
they will err on the side of overtightening.
“Participants concurred that the economic outlook warranted moving to a
restrictive stance of policy, and they recognized the possibility that an
even more restrictive stance could be appropriate if elevated inflation
pressures were to persist,” the minutes say.
But one of the big reasons for the 0.75-percentage-point hike was a data
point that has since been revised lower, presumably relieving some panic
that is palpable in the minutes. That is as commodity prices tumble, further
increasing hopes that inflation—at least on the goods side of the economy
—has topped.
As for the revised data point that was key to the super-sized hike:
Officials expressed particular concern over the University of Michigan’s 5-
10 year inflation expectations gauge within the university’s monthly
consumer confidence report. That measure shot up from 3% to 3.3% just before
the June meeting. “Many participants raised the concern that longer-run
inflation expectations could be beginning to drift up to levels inconsistent
with the 2% objective,” the minutes say, adding that those participants
said that if inflation expectations were to become unanchored, it would be
more costly to bring inflation back down to target.
Soon after the June meeting and 0.75-point decision, though, the University
of Michigan released its revised report, with the 5-10 year inflation
expectation figure revised down to 3.1%. It noted that the revised reading
was back within the 2.9% to 3.1% range that has held for the past year or so.
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Still, inflation expectations remain well above the Fed’s 2% target. And
while commodity-price declines, rising mortgage rates, and warnings from
companies including retailers are underpinning hopes that inflation has
finally topped out, peaking is one thing and falling is another. Consider
what economists at Goldman Sachs said this week. The year-over-year core CPI
—which excludes food and energy—will reaccelerate this summer, to 6.3% in
September from 6% in May, they say. By year end, it will still be at 5.5%,
they add, which is almost three times the targeted annual rate of inflation.
Markets have already shifted their focus from inflation to growth—and more
so after the big June hike and ahead of a potentially similar increase this
month. Unclear is when the Fed will shift its focus, and whether inflation
will remain high even as growth falters. The June minutes don’t give any
hints that officials are starting to waver. But things are moving fast, and
the minutes are already three weeks old.
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Even so, economists at Citi say markets are underpricing the likely path of
Fed policy rate increases. There is now consensus not only to move policy
rates into “restrictive” territory, but to have policy poised to move “
even more restrictive” should inflationary pressure increase, they noted
after the minutes were released.
“What markets want to hear now is what the Fed has in mind if economic data
releases continue to signal a deeper, more serious downturn without a
commensurate easing in inflation,” says Quincy Krosby, chief equity
strategist at LPL Financial. What markets hope for is that by the next
meeting, inflation is plateauing, indicating that Fed policy is working, she
says.
For that, investors will have to keep waiting. At this point, economists
expect the June CPI report, due out July 13, to show overall prices rose
another 8.6% from a year earlier.
Write to Lisa Beilfuss at [email protected] | x****o 发帖数: 29677 | 3
6月通胀不可能退
想想6月的油价和5月油价对比,就知道
7月倒是比6月可能退
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 看你对我还挺有情分的状况, share一下给你看看,不保证正确,做个参考。 : 下午,我再来删贴,实在不想跟股版的傻逼玩了。 : 发信人: awaydream (昆仑天下), 信区: club168 : 标 题: Fed Minute 个人解读 by awaydream : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 16:41:31 2022, 美东) : 1. Fed的委员对经济比较乐观,多次说2nd quarter的GDP在增长, 形势比较乐观, : 不像1st 季度那样的衰退。实际我认为,这帮人又过度乐观了,又要被市场打成猪头。 : 2nd季度的前半季度可能还凑合,后半季度,房市,二手车等凉得很明显,他们什么也 : 没提,感觉这些货真是有点够呛。 : 2. Fed的委员讲起通胀,就说俄乌战争,中国covid封锁,供应链破坏等等,丝毫不提
| a*******m 发帖数: 14194 | 4 我昨天又买了xom和气等,只要不用杠杆,就不怕跌,大不了装死。
就说这么多吧。
我的主观判断不要随便上杠杆乱搞,我不上杠杆,判断错了,也能熬,也能
止损,你要是上杠杆,波动一大,随时wipe out你。
过去2-3年,我帮股版的不少ID赚到了钱,但是,这个版上垃圾太多,我有点
厌倦了,要休息一下。走了! | y***r 发帖数: 16594 | 5 钻风听你的每天盲目做多粮食和天然气,被你给害惨了吧?
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 看你对我还挺有情分的状况, share一下给你看看,不保证正确,做个参考。 : 下午,我再来删贴,实在不想跟股版的傻逼玩了。 : 发信人: awaydream (昆仑天下), 信区: club168 : 标 题: Fed Minute 个人解读 by awaydream : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 16:41:31 2022, 美东) : 1. Fed的委员对经济比较乐观,多次说2nd quarter的GDP在增长, 形势比较乐观, : 不像1st 季度那样的衰退。实际我认为,这帮人又过度乐观了,又要被市场打成猪头。 : 2nd季度的前半季度可能还凑合,后半季度,房市,二手车等凉得很明显,他们什么也 : 没提,感觉这些货真是有点够呛。 : 2. Fed的委员讲起通胀,就说俄乌战争,中国covid封锁,供应链破坏等等,丝毫不提
| H********e 发帖数: 1 | 6 大师又喊对了
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 我昨天又买了xom和气等,只要不用杠杆,就不怕跌,大不了装死。 : 就说这么多吧。 : 我的主观判断不要随便上杠杆乱搞,我不上杠杆,判断错了,也能熬,也能 : 止损,你要是上杠杆,波动一大,随时wipe out你。 : 过去2-3年,我帮股版的不少ID赚到了钱,但是,这个版上垃圾太多,我有点 : 厌倦了,要休息一下。走了!
| a*******m 发帖数: 14194 | 7 钻风傻逼要是听我的,买粮食和天然气,早就账户翻倍再翻倍了。
去年BG过了 90刀之后,我就再也没推荐过了。
听我买BG的,最后一次推荐,最高价就是75刀,就算拿到今天也是不亏。
【在 y***r 的大作中提到】 : 钻风听你的每天盲目做多粮食和天然气,被你给害惨了吧?
| a**d 发帖数: 64 | 8 BG喊得很厉害
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 钻风傻逼要是听我的,买粮食和天然气,早就账户翻倍再翻倍了。 : 去年BG过了 90刀之后,我就再也没推荐过了。 : 听我买BG的,最后一次推荐,最高价就是75刀,就算拿到今天也是不亏。
| a*******m 发帖数: 14194 | 9 钻风自己傻逼,对于诅咒我横死的ID,应该直接杀档的。
结果,反倒封我封得来劲了,不玩了,走了。
此处不留爷,自有留爷处。
处处不留爷,爷去当八路。 | y***r 发帖数: 16594 | 10 钻风的确sb。
真人都要杀死。
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 钻风自己傻逼,对于诅咒我横死的ID,应该直接杀档的。 : 结果,反倒封我封得来劲了,不玩了,走了。 : 此处不留爷,自有留爷处。 : 处处不留爷,爷去当八路。
| b*******n 发帖数: 458 | | l********4 发帖数: 33 | 12 6月CPI不太可能回撤。鉴于这几天股市几乎天天涨,CPI惊吓市场再次下跌的台子已经
搭好。
我跟楼主的观点不一样,油气短线反弹是必然的,华尔街的尿性谁不知道。但绝对不能
脑子一热继续加仓了,因为大趋势变了。以前fed加息还扭扭捏捏,经常低于预期是因
为还有软着陆的幻想。但现在fed已经被逼上梁山了,大概率是睡舅甩锅这一个举动让
fed必须成为睡舅的打手和急先锋压制通胀问题。头痛医脚是这届政府的专长,为了防
止民怨沸腾必须在中期选举前把通胀打下来,不惜一切代价。
油气这两个跳梁小丑越涨的高,fed加息的决心就越大,搞过头刹不住车的几率就越大
,衰退的几率就越大,最终还是只能害死自己。 | h******s 发帖数: 3420 | 13 衰退也是因为油价太高,崩溃也只会崩溃泡沫科技。
而不是因为衰退油价崩溃。
: 6月CPI不太可能回撤。鉴于这几天几乎天天涨,CPI惊吓市场再次下跌的台子已
经搭好。
: 我跟楼主的观点不一样,油气短线反弹是必然的,华尔街的尿性谁不知道。但绝
对不能
: 脑子一热继续加仓了,因为大趋势变了。以前fed加息还扭扭捏捏,经常低于预
期是因
: 为还有软着陆的幻想。但现在fed已经被逼上梁山了,大概率是睡舅甩锅这一个
举动让
: fed必须成为睡舅的打手和急先锋压制通胀问题。头痛医脚是这届政府的专长,
为了防
: 止民怨沸腾必须在中期选举前把通胀打下来,不惜一切代价。
: 油气这两个跳梁小丑越涨的高,fed加息的决心就越大,搞过头刹不住车的几率
就越大
: ,衰退的几率就越大,最终还是只能害死自己。
【在 l********4 的大作中提到】 : 6月CPI不太可能回撤。鉴于这几天股市几乎天天涨,CPI惊吓市场再次下跌的台子已经 : 搭好。 : 我跟楼主的观点不一样,油气短线反弹是必然的,华尔街的尿性谁不知道。但绝对不能 : 脑子一热继续加仓了,因为大趋势变了。以前fed加息还扭扭捏捏,经常低于预期是因 : 为还有软着陆的幻想。但现在fed已经被逼上梁山了,大概率是睡舅甩锅这一个举动让 : fed必须成为睡舅的打手和急先锋压制通胀问题。头痛医脚是这届政府的专长,为了防 : 止民怨沸腾必须在中期选举前把通胀打下来,不惜一切代价。 : 油气这两个跳梁小丑越涨的高,fed加息的决心就越大,搞过头刹不住车的几率就越大 : ,衰退的几率就越大,最终还是只能害死自己。
| h******s 发帖数: 3420 | 14 有道理。顶一顶远梦大师。
: 看你对我还挺有情分的状况, share一下给你看看,不保证正确,做个参考。
: 下午,我再来删贴,实在不想跟股版的傻逼玩了。
: 发信人: awaydream (昆仑天下), 信区: club168
: 标 题: Fed Minute 个人解读 by awaydream
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 16:41:31 2022, 美东)
: 1. Fed的委员对经济比较乐观,多次说2nd quarter的GDP在增长, 形势比较乐
观,
: 不像1st 季度那样的衰退。实际我认为,这帮人又过度乐观了,又要被市场打成
猪头。
: 2nd季度的前半季度可能还凑合,后半季度,房市,二手车等凉得很明显,他们
什么也
: 没提,感觉这些货真是有点够呛。
: 2. Fed的委员讲起通胀,就说俄乌战争,中国covid封锁,供应链破坏等等,丝
毫不提
【在 a*******m 的大作中提到】 : 钻风自己傻逼,对于诅咒我横死的ID,应该直接杀档的。 : 结果,反倒封我封得来劲了,不玩了,走了。 : 此处不留爷,自有留爷处。 : 处处不留爷,爷去当八路。
| i*****9 发帖数: 3157 | 15 通胀和利率完全无关,period 。
【在 l********4 的大作中提到】 : 6月CPI不太可能回撤。鉴于这几天股市几乎天天涨,CPI惊吓市场再次下跌的台子已经 : 搭好。 : 我跟楼主的观点不一样,油气短线反弹是必然的,华尔街的尿性谁不知道。但绝对不能 : 脑子一热继续加仓了,因为大趋势变了。以前fed加息还扭扭捏捏,经常低于预期是因 : 为还有软着陆的幻想。但现在fed已经被逼上梁山了,大概率是睡舅甩锅这一个举动让 : fed必须成为睡舅的打手和急先锋压制通胀问题。头痛医脚是这届政府的专长,为了防 : 止民怨沸腾必须在中期选举前把通胀打下来,不惜一切代价。 : 油气这两个跳梁小丑越涨的高,fed加息的决心就越大,搞过头刹不住车的几率就越大 : ,衰退的几率就越大,最终还是只能害死自己。
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