d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 1 记得他去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
group revision.
Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
.S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
before falling just short.
That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
taking down the 100 back with a time of 57.13 to finish 10th overall in the
event. | s**a
发帖数: 1995 | 2 一般游泳运动员出成绩是多大？巅峰期是多大？
U
split
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 记得他去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
: ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
: meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
: national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
: group revision.
: Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
: .S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
: the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
: before falling just short.
: That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 3 主要看身体发育，跟年龄关系不太大（太老当然不行），十四五到二十出头都有可能。
这位少年英雄，据说目前身高6尺4寸（一说6尺6寸），178磅
【在 s**a 的大作中提到】
: 一般游泳运动员出成绩是多大？巅峰期是多大？
:
: U
: split
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 4 看到一个调查结果，大部分人认为他不应该14岁就go pro。比菲尔普斯还早一年多。
MICHAEL Andrew has been a hot topic of conversation since he became a
professional swimmer at the very young age of 14, becoming the youngest
swimmer to do so. In our last poll we asked you if you thought 14 years old
was too young to be a professional swimmer, and 74.51 percent of you said
yes, it is too young, while 25.49 percent did not think 14 years old was too
young for a swimmer to go pro.
U
split
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 记得他去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
: ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
: meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
: national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
: group revision.
: Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
: .S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
: the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
: before falling just short.
: That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
| A******s
发帖数: 292 | 5 这孩子真是天才！
go pro是什么意思？难道就是从此不上学了，专门以比赛拿奖金为生？这样的话14岁确
实有点早。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 6 “职业”运动员。
学还是要上，“后果”是：“With this decision, Andrew will now be ineligible
to swim either in high school or NCAA collegiate competition.”
另外一个极端，比如大名鼎鼎的missy franklin仍然在参加NCAA的比赛。作为“后果”
，个人和接力赛能报的项目是受限的。
【在 A******s 的大作中提到】
: 这孩子真是天才！
: go pro是什么意思？难道就是从此不上学了，专门以比赛拿奖金为生？这样的话14岁确
: 实有点早。
| A******s
发帖数: 292 | 7 那相对于非职业运动员有什么优势呢？是不是能参加一些仅限职业运动员才能参加的比
赛，或者有人给发工资？
ineligible
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: “职业”运动员。
: 学还是要上，“后果”是：“With this decision, Andrew will now be ineligible
: to swim either in high school or NCAA collegiate competition.”
: 另外一个极端，比如大名鼎鼎的missy franklin仍然在参加NCAA的比赛。作为“后果”
: ，个人和接力赛能报的项目是受限的。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 8 我觉得广告费代言费什么的肯定一大堆吧
【在 A******s 的大作中提到】
: 那相对于非职业运动员有什么优势呢？是不是能参加一些仅限职业运动员才能参加的比
: 赛，或者有人给发工资？
:
: ineligible
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 9 记得michael andrew去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
group revision.
Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
.S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
before falling just short.
That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
taking down the 100 back with a time of 57.13 to finish 10th overall in the
event. | s**a
发帖数: 1995 | 10 一般游泳运动员出成绩是多大？巅峰期是多大？
U
split
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 记得他去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
: ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
: meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
: national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
: group revision.
: Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
: .S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
: the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
: before falling just short.
: That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
| | | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 11 主要看身体发育，跟年龄关系不太大（太老当然不行），十四五到二十出头都有可能。
这位少年英雄，据说目前身高6尺4寸（一说6尺6寸），178磅
【在 s**a 的大作中提到】
: 一般游泳运动员出成绩是多大？巅峰期是多大？
:
: U
: split
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 12 看到一个调查结果，大部分人认为他不应该14岁就go pro。比菲尔普斯还早一年多。
MICHAEL Andrew has been a hot topic of conversation since he became a
professional swimmer at the very young age of 14, becoming the youngest
swimmer to do so. In our last poll we asked you if you thought 14 years old
was too young to be a professional swimmer, and 74.51 percent of you said
yes, it is too young, while 25.49 percent did not think 14 years old was too
young for a swimmer to go pro.
U
split
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 记得他去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
: ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
: meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
: national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
: group revision.
: Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
: .S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
: the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
: before falling just short.
: That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
| A******s
发帖数: 292 | 13 这孩子真是天才！
go pro是什么意思？难道就是从此不上学了，专门以比赛拿奖金为生？这样的话14岁确
实有点早。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 14 “职业”运动员。
学还是要上，“后果”是：“With this decision, Andrew will now be ineligible
to swim either in high school or NCAA collegiate competition.”
另外一个极端，比如大名鼎鼎的missy franklin仍然在参加NCAA的比赛。作为“后果”
，个人和接力赛能报的项目是受限的。
【在 A******s 的大作中提到】
: 这孩子真是天才！
: go pro是什么意思？难道就是从此不上学了，专门以比赛拿奖金为生？这样的话14岁确
: 实有点早。
| A******s
发帖数: 292 | 15 那相对于非职业运动员有什么优势呢？是不是能参加一些仅限职业运动员才能参加的比
赛，或者有人给发工资？
ineligible
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: “职业”运动员。
: 学还是要上，“后果”是：“With this decision, Andrew will now be ineligible
: to swim either in high school or NCAA collegiate competition.”
: 另外一个极端，比如大名鼎鼎的missy franklin仍然在参加NCAA的比赛。作为“后果”
: ，个人和接力赛能报的项目是受限的。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 16 我觉得广告费代言费什么的肯定一大堆吧
【在 A******s 的大作中提到】
: 那相对于非职业运动员有什么优势呢？是不是能参加一些仅限职业运动员才能参加的比
: 赛，或者有人给发工资？
:
: ineligible
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 17 又破纪录了
===============
JENKS, Oklahoma, March 9. FOURTEEN-year-old Michael Andrew of Indie Swimming
broke his third National Age Group record of the weekend tonight at the
Speedo Champions Series Central Section Region VIII meet in Jenks, Okla.,
taking down the 13-14 boys 200 back record.
Andrew posted a winning time of 1:45.14 in finals, erasing Benjamin Ho's
2013 record of 1:45.73 from the books. Andrew now holds nine of the 14
National Age Group records for 13-14 boys in yards.
Flyers Aquatic Swim Team's Nicholas Alexander took second behind Andrew in 1
:47.65, while Kansas City Blazer Benjamin Scheffer wound up third in 1:49.04
.
U
split
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 记得michael andrew去年游出了50米23.x秒。放在40年前，就世界冠军了。
: ORLANDO, Florida, February 15. IN the championship heat of the men's 200-
: meter IM at the Arena Grand Prix in Orlando, 14-year-old professional
: national age group hunter Michael Andrew posted yet another national age
: group revision.
: Tonight, Andrew popped a 2:04.13 to take fourth overall, cutting his 13-14 U
: .S. National Age Group record down from a 2:05.13 set in 2013. Andrew split
: the 200 IM (26.15, 31.65, 36.88, 29.45), and challenged for a podium spot
: before falling just short.
: That's the second national age group record of the meet for Andrew after
| c*k
发帖数: 108 | 18 very talented, 50 Yard free under 20. | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 19 蝶也破了纪录。年纪轻轻就前进到珠峰二号营地了。
======================================
ORLANDO, Florida, March 19. ALTHOUGH Michael Andrew failed to lower his own
13-14 NAG in the 100 breaststroke, he more than made up for it less than 30
minutes later in the boys 200 butterfly. Andrew's second-place finishing
time of 1:45.39 was a new NAG. Andrew held the record previously at a 1:46.
29.
18 year old Robert McHugh and Andrew went head to head during the race until
the 125, when a stellar underwater pushed McHugh into the lead. McHugh
extended his lead to nearly a half body length by the finish, and touched
first at a 1:43.23. This was a best time for McHugh by several tenths of a
second. For his part, Andrew was first to the 50, taking the race out in a
22.97. He turned at the 100 at a 49.4 before McHugh took over the lead,
leaving Andrew to claim second place.
【在 c*k 的大作中提到】
: very talented, 50 Yard free under 20.
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 20 看来谁也挡不住这个年轻人了。另外也搞清了比赛年龄的规则，开始第一天不超岁数就
行。
PHOENIX, Arizona, April 22. MICHAEL Andrew turned 15 years old last Friday,
but he was still able to race as a 14-year-old at the NASA Showcase Classic
in Clearwater, Florida, last week. Meet rules stipulate that because he was
14 years old on the first day of the meet, he would remain 14 years old for
the whole meet, even on the last two days when he was technically 15.
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While Michael was still able to set records in the 13-14 age group last week
, which he did, he already had his attention focused on the 15-16 national
age group records. Many of them are quite tough, featuring names such as
Caeleb Dressel, Ryan Murphy ... and Michael Phelps. But one record seemed
within reach in that age group, and Michael was able to surpass it on Friday
. A 46.95 in the 100 fly broke his own 13-14 national age group record and
was faster than the 15-16 national age group record of 46.99 swum by Alex
Valente earlier this year. Michael will likely make that record his
officially at his next short course yards meet to start what will likely be
a barrage of records during his two years in that division.
Usually, national age group records are set by those on the older end of the
age spectrum, but Michael's performance last week shows we should expect
big things in the next two years. Congratulations, Michael. You've won the
Speedo Performance of the Week.
own
30
until
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 蝶也破了纪录。年纪轻轻就前进到珠峰二号营地了。
: ======================================
: ORLANDO, Florida, March 19. ALTHOUGH Michael Andrew failed to lower his own
: 13-14 NAG in the 100 breaststroke, he more than made up for it less than 30
: minutes later in the boys 200 butterfly. Andrew's second-place finishing
: time of 1:45.39 was a new NAG. Andrew held the record previously at a 1:46.
: 29.
: 18 year old Robert McHugh and Andrew went head to head during the race until
: the 125, when a stellar underwater pushed McHugh into the lead. McHugh
: extended his lead to nearly a half body length by the finish, and touched
| | | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 21 200Y仰
CLEARWATER, Florida, April 16. COMPETING in his final meet in the 13-14 age
group, Michael Andrew kicked off the NASA Showcase Classic by lowering his
200-yard backstroke national age group record twice.
In prelims, Andrew posted a 1:44.02, taking more than a second off his
previous record of 1:45.13. That was just a warm-up for what would follow in
finals, where he broke through the 1:44 barrier with a 1:43.15.
,
Classic
was
for
week
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 看来谁也挡不住这个年轻人了。另外也搞清了比赛年龄的规则，开始第一天不超岁数就
: 行。
: PHOENIX, Arizona, April 22. MICHAEL Andrew turned 15 years old last Friday,
: but he was still able to race as a 14-year-old at the NASA Showcase Classic
: in Clearwater, Florida, last week. Meet rules stipulate that because he was
: 14 years old on the first day of the meet, he would remain 14 years old for
: the whole meet, even on the last two days when he was technically 15.
: Note: YouTube Measures Views Only For Episodes Watched On YouTube.com
: While Michael was still able to set records in the 13-14 age group last week
: , which he did, he already had his attention focused on the 15-16 national
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 22 这个评论很精辟。未来几年又能见到一个天才的诞生。
This young man is always ready to race it seems, never has a bad meet. And
shows no signs of slowing down either.
Yes, within three seconds of Ryan Murphy's 15-16 national age group record
of 1:40.90, but already has Peirsol (1:45:37), Grevers (1:46.05), Phelps (1:
46.15) and Clary (1:46.77) in his rear view mirror, guys all covered with
gold, and so, too, Michael Andrew in the years to come.
The other thing that's just so special about Michael is his versatility. He
swims everything great, from 50 all the way up to 400 meters. Unworldly
talent, with machine-like consistency. Congratulations!!
age
in
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 200Y仰
: CLEARWATER, Florida, April 16. COMPETING in his final meet in the 13-14 age
: group, Michael Andrew kicked off the NASA Showcase Classic by lowering his
: 200-yard backstroke national age group record twice.
: In prelims, Andrew posted a 1:44.02, taking more than a second off his
: previous record of 1:45.13. That was just a warm-up for what would follow in
: finals, where he broke through the 1:44 barrier with a 1:43.15.
:
: ,
: Classic
| S******o
发帖数: 19 | 23 你对他的训练方法，USRPT，有什么看法？ Bob Bowman 好像不以为然， Destin
Lasco 的教练也不太感冒。 也许他真是个天才，不管什么办法都能work。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 24 USRPT的训练方法更适用于成绩处于上升期并且有专人指导的年轻人，或者即使上了年
纪但是乳酸代谢仍然非常快的人
年纪稍微大一些的顶尖选手，比如phelps和lochte，他们不得不面对身体能量系统恢复
变慢的现实，在训练中必须学习对抗略高的乳酸水平（和他们20岁以前比），做出肌肉
和神经的微调。如果不加大训练量，增加高乳酸水平情况下的训练，结果就是大家看到
的，2012年phelps的400IM第三段出现多次动作变形，是他出道以来最慢的一段蛙泳；
刚刚比完的100 fly，有15%的strokes有瑕疵。相反，lochte（29岁）的勤奋训练让他
的动作非常稳定，100 fly比个人pb只慢半秒；200自，在改动作的情况下也游出了高水
准，看起来像是adrian在游200。
michael andrew现在看起来非常成功。但是他个子很高，和成人比已经不吃亏；他的成
绩和巅峰比起来，大概只相当于珠峰大本营、一号、最多二号营地到峰顶的距离。异常
艰苦、无法宿营的三号营地他还没有达到。
支持michael andrew用usrpt的人认为这种方法让他避免burn out，提高时间利用效率
，可以所有项目齐头并进。但是从这次长池赛来看，他的蛙泳第二段比第一段慢了16%
，所以偏科是早晚的事情。至于burn out，这次比赛的natalie coughlin已经31岁，
lochte 29岁……andrew能不能在这个年纪仍然保持这样好的状态？
拭目以待andrew的表现。如果他能在几个项目迅速登顶，usrpt将获得爆炸性的推广。
对泳娃来说，如果时间紧张，有巨大burn out concern家长们，也许可以找个usrpt的
游泳队。否则，传统的训练更保险。
【在 S******o 的大作中提到】
: 你对他的训练方法，USRPT，有什么看法？ Bob Bowman 好像不以为然， Destin
: Lasco 的教练也不太感冒。 也许他真是个天才，不管什么办法都能work。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 25 usrpt的生化基础我不懂，只能照猫画虎地按照自己的理解学。训练的有益元素，我的
理解是尽可能接近实战的练习强度，和让身体有限恢复以便真正学会并掌握动作。
对正常的训练是否合用不敢说，但是对课后训练效果不错。
最近晚上或者周末辅导小孩游泳练wall最多，感觉usrpt重视成功率的思想非常好。不
管小孩多累，我都push他们要做出高质量的蹬壁。练转身来说25Y还是太长，条件允许
的时候就在跳水池里练，成功率至上。
只做接近实战强度的练习也挺有用。到边之后测10秒心跳，微调，加减1，加减2，定新
的目标，试验IM的各种组合，找一个最优组合。比best effort练习效果好。
【在 S******o 的大作中提到】
: 你对他的训练方法，USRPT，有什么看法？ Bob Bowman 好像不以为然， Destin
: Lasco 的教练也不太感冒。 也许他真是个天才，不管什么办法都能work。
| S******o
发帖数: 19 | 26 你非常knowledgeable，而且非常open-minded，善于学习新东西。 我和孩子的教练提
起usrpt，他居然不知道。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: usrpt的生化基础我不懂，只能照猫画虎地按照自己的理解学。训练的有益元素，我的
: 理解是尽可能接近实战的练习强度，和让身体有限恢复以便真正学会并掌握动作。
: 对正常的训练是否合用不敢说，但是对课后训练效果不错。
: 最近晚上或者周末辅导小孩游泳练wall最多，感觉usrpt重视成功率的思想非常好。不
: 管小孩多累，我都push他们要做出高质量的蹬壁。练转身来说25Y还是太长，条件允许
: 的时候就在跳水池里练，成功率至上。
: 只做接近实战强度的练习也挺有用。到边之后测10秒心跳，微调，加减1，加减2，定新
: 的目标，试验IM的各种组合，找一个最优组合。比best effort练习效果好。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 27 usrpt会给游泳队增加很多负担，真要推广一定会转嫁到家长身上。小孩训练、比赛费
用已经很高。我个人觉得，如果要用，最好家长或者私教小范围内用，看看效果。
不过usrpt的网站上说，不要和其他训练方法混用，否则不work！这种说法有点霸道，
加上他们不遗余力卖光盘，和努力找加盟队的公关行动，以及michael andrew的本次长
池表现，让我有点怀疑这种训练是否真的好使。也许应该像学ti一样，取其精华，去其
糟粕。
【在 S******o 的大作中提到】
: 你非常knowledgeable，而且非常open-minded，善于学习新东西。 我和孩子的教练提
: 起usrpt，他居然不知道。
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