h******g
发帖数: 21 | 1 气死我了，刚刚打了一大堆东西都丢了！
简要的说说我们不靠谱的会计师，事迹如下：
1。我们的会计师用了两年多一点点，最近涨service fee也没提前通知，直接寄来了
invoice，我打电话问，人家回，“有问题吗？” 靠！当然有问题。（accounting fee
涨了11%，payroll service涨了18%）。
2。还有他有broker license，所以要求要帮我们做refinance(是要求不是说服），我
想让我一个朋友做，问他要公司发给我们自己的w-2,人家说要请其他公司做的，要靠私
人关系才行的，不然是作假的，blablabla...当我3岁啊！靠！
3。不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究。
还有其他的，比如他office员工经常换，也反映了他待人不厚道吧。我之所以忍了是想
今年报完税就换人了，不想跟他正面冲突，毕竟他手上有我们的personal information
.前一年没觉得他太离谱，人是有点喜欢说大话，但也没什么大问题。大家说说我用什
么理由回绝他比较好呢？不想伤和气，毕竟大家住得近，抬头不见低头见的。谢谢大家
！ |
b**m
发帖数: 1466 | |
h******g
发帖数: 21 | 3 具体数字不知道合不合适公开,不过收的至少是同行的average,因为我之前还咨询过另
外一家,大概有个了解.然后他这样大幅度涨价让我觉得很不comfortable,也觉得他很
sneaky.
怎么跟他说比较好呢?有什么建议吗?
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: 大约收多少钱？
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h******g
发帖数: 21 | 4 其实我们小公司税很简单的,平时的bookkeeping就更没什么东西了.service company,
没有任何inventory.我倒是不在乎稍微贵一点,只要让我觉得放心满意,我一点问题都没
有.
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: 大约收多少钱？
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c*******n
发帖数: 913 | 5 18% 的涨幅是每年么？还是2-3年一次?
费用不可能一成不变的，怎么都得考虑inflation rate的。
但是，客户有选择自己firm的权力！而且，不用担心会计师会拿私人信息做什么 |
h******g
发帖数: 21 | 6 谢谢你的答复.正常的涨价我理解,只是觉得他应该先跟我们沟通,还有态度问题.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】
: 18% 的涨幅是每年么？还是2-3年一次?
: 费用不可能一成不变的，怎么都得考虑inflation rate的。
: 但是，客户有选择自己firm的权力！而且，不用担心会计师会拿私人信息做什么
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k**********8
发帖数: 137 | 7 直接说 我们公司今年大亏，准备自己保税省钱了 或者 我们公司今年大赚，专门雇了
一个员工保税了
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢你的答复.正常的涨价我理解,只是觉得他应该先跟我们沟通,还有态度问题.
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s*****n
发帖数: 109 | |
m**y
发帖数: 191 | 9 "不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究"
This is grey area. I do not think he/she does not understand the trick. You
may chose not to push too much. |
C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 10 同意这个。有朋友报过。被抓了。必须父母有绿卡才行。这个其实不算灰色地带。只是
很多人就报了看抓不抓。
You
【在 m**y 的大作中提到】
: "不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究"
: This is grey area. I do not think he/she does not understand the trick. You
: may chose not to push too much.
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n***8
发帖数: 39 | 11 父母要有社会安全号码，在你家住了半年以上才行。 |
a***e
发帖数: 256 | 12 换吧， 不过不靠谱的accountant多了去
fee
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 气死我了，刚刚打了一大堆东西都丢了！
: 简要的说说我们不靠谱的会计师，事迹如下：
: 1。我们的会计师用了两年多一点点，最近涨service fee也没提前通知，直接寄来了
: invoice，我打电话问，人家回，“有问题吗？” 靠！当然有问题。（accounting fee
: 涨了11%，payroll service涨了18%）。
: 2。还有他有broker license，所以要求要帮我们做refinance(是要求不是说服），我
: 想让我一个朋友做，问他要公司发给我们自己的w-2,人家说要请其他公司做的，要靠私
: 人关系才行的，不然是作假的，blablabla...当我3岁啊！靠！
: 3。不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究。
: 还有其他的，比如他office员工经常换，也反映了他待人不厚道吧。我之所以忍了是想
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b****r
发帖数: 17995 | 13 错，税号就可以
【在 n***8 的大作中提到】
: 父母要有社会安全号码，在你家住了半年以上才行。
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 14 税号安全号都不行了。就是要永久居民才可以。
不查就算，查了就得补。
【在 b****r 的大作中提到】
: 错，税号就可以
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p******m
发帖数: 312 | 15 不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究----父母是加拿大或墨西哥公民的才可
以.以前很多老中也跟着这么报, IRS没注意,最近几年IRS已经加强了这条的报税审核,
所以最近一两年,很多都被挡回来了.
如果他是texas的CPA的话, 你可以到state accountancy board file complain
你的W-2是可以要求他免费还回来的，别的他给你做得paper work你如果想要的话，你
可能得付点reasonable fee 给他。
fee
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 气死我了，刚刚打了一大堆东西都丢了！
: 简要的说说我们不靠谱的会计师，事迹如下：
: 1。我们的会计师用了两年多一点点，最近涨service fee也没提前通知，直接寄来了
: invoice，我打电话问，人家回，“有问题吗？” 靠！当然有问题。（accounting fee
: 涨了11%，payroll service涨了18%）。
: 2。还有他有broker license，所以要求要帮我们做refinance(是要求不是说服），我
: 想让我一个朋友做，问他要公司发给我们自己的w-2,人家说要请其他公司做的，要靠私
: 人关系才行的，不然是作假的，blablabla...当我3岁啊！靠！
: 3。不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究。
: 还有其他的，比如他office员工经常换，也反映了他待人不厚道吧。我之所以忍了是想
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j****y
发帖数: 597 | 16 Wrong!
Green card is not needed. Should pass 183 day presence tests, plus TIN, that
is it.
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: 税号安全号都不行了。就是要永久居民才可以。
: 不查就算，查了就得补。
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 17 I have friend who has been audited. The reason for the denial is his mom is
not PR (she has social and she passes the day test). Actually if you read
the law yourself, it is quite clear, even though it is separated in two
terms.
you can still do it at your own risk. But let's clarify that is not lawful.
that
【在 j****y 的大作中提到】
: Wrong!
: Green card is not needed. Should pass 183 day presence tests, plus TIN, that
: is it.
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s***n
发帖数: 1280 | 18 Theoretically no PR is required. Only resident alien is required which can
be claimed even if you have no PR.
But the issue is besides the 183+ requirement, to establish resident alien
status you must also show that you don't have a tax home in a foreign
country and you don't have a closer connection to a foreign country. So, for
parents holding a visitor visa, it is very hard to establish that they have
a closer connection to the US even if their children are in US, because one
of the conditions they got the visitor visa is that they have closer
connection to China or other country.
If someone believe he can establish the two points for his non-PR parents
in front of IRS, he might claim his parents as dependent. But still IRS
might deny it.
Parents from Canada or Mexico are different though.
is
read
lawful.
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: I have friend who has been audited. The reason for the denial is his mom is
: not PR (she has social and she passes the day test). Actually if you read
: the law yourself, it is quite clear, even though it is separated in two
: terms.
: you can still do it at your own risk. But let's clarify that is not lawful.
:
: that
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t******l
发帖数: 2135 | 19 我怎么觉得税法就是说183天加tin？
is
read
lawful.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: I have friend who has been audited. The reason for the denial is his mom is
: not PR (she has social and she passes the day test). Actually if you read
: the law yourself, it is quite clear, even though it is separated in two
: terms.
: you can still do it at your own risk. But let's clarify that is not lawful.
:
: that
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d*******n
发帖数: 2078 | 20 payroll service 涨了18%，到底是多少的比率？
想知道我省了多少钱？这个东西那么简单，还需要专门人来做？设定好了以后，每个月
都是一样的。
fee
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 气死我了，刚刚打了一大堆东西都丢了！
: 简要的说说我们不靠谱的会计师，事迹如下：
: 1。我们的会计师用了两年多一点点，最近涨service fee也没提前通知，直接寄来了
: invoice，我打电话问，人家回，“有问题吗？” 靠！当然有问题。（accounting fee
: 涨了11%，payroll service涨了18%）。
: 2。还有他有broker license，所以要求要帮我们做refinance(是要求不是说服），我
: 想让我一个朋友做，问他要公司发给我们自己的w-2,人家说要请其他公司做的，要靠私
: 人关系才行的，不然是作假的，blablabla...当我3岁啊！靠！
: 3。不懂探亲父母可以报denpendents,也不虚心研究。
: 还有其他的，比如他office员工经常换，也反映了他待人不厚道吧。我之所以忍了是想
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n**d
发帖数: 286 | 21 sigh. Please do some study before making conclusion. Not just "heard" or "
knew" someone is audited. Too many variables.
Parent can be claimed as dependent if they stay 180 days/year in US (other
calculation available) and have TIN. No PR required. Period.
However, to claim parent as dependent, YOU must be PR (or as PR for tax
purpose).
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: 税号安全号都不行了。就是要永久居民才可以。
: 不查就算，查了就得补。
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m******g
发帖数: 498 | 22 既然有人被audit了，就说明这个很可能就是grey area。IRS没有一个code或者rule明
确说了可以把探亲父母作为dependent来报。如果少数人用，那IRS睁只眼闭只眼也就算
了。如果到最后发展成像原来滥用treaty那样，那就等着被audit然后补罚款吧。
【在 n**d 的大作中提到】
: sigh. Please do some study before making conclusion. Not just "heard" or "
: knew" someone is audited. Too many variables.
: Parent can be claimed as dependent if they stay 180 days/year in US (other
: calculation available) and have TIN. No PR required. Period.
: However, to claim parent as dependent, YOU must be PR (or as PR for tax
: purpose).
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m******g
发帖数: 498 | 23 说实话不少人太喜欢abuse这些东西了。真被audit起来，找个可靠的证据都没有。
for
have
one
【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: Theoretically no PR is required. Only resident alien is required which can
: be claimed even if you have no PR.
: But the issue is besides the 183+ requirement, to establish resident alien
: status you must also show that you don't have a tax home in a foreign
: country and you don't have a closer connection to a foreign country. So, for
: parents holding a visitor visa, it is very hard to establish that they have
: a closer connection to the US even if their children are in US, because one
: of the conditions they got the visitor visa is that they have closer
: connection to China or other country.
: If someone believe he can establish the two points for his non-PR parents
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n**d
发帖数: 286 | 24 IRS没有一个code或者rule明确说???? Do the study yourself and don't just make
something up.
The IRS rule is always clear, read publication 519 chapter 1 and 5.
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 既然有人被audit了，就说明这个很可能就是grey area。IRS没有一个code或者rule明
: 确说了可以把探亲父母作为dependent来报。如果少数人用，那IRS睁只眼闭只眼也就算
: 了。如果到最后发展成像原来滥用treaty那样，那就等着被audit然后补罚款吧。
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n**d
发帖数: 286 | 25 Do everybody a favor, go read publication 519 chapter 1 and 5, especially 5
- Exemptions, and then come back and post. Thank you.
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 说实话不少人太喜欢abuse这些东西了。真被audit起来，找个可靠的证据都没有。
:
: for
: have
: one
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m******g
发帖数: 498 | 26 嘿嘿。俺觉得你应该看的是dependent test而不仅仅是resident alien和exemption。
并不是说父母来了，满足了substantial test,就可以是dependent了。所以你最好去读
读pub 501。
所谓滥用，就是指读了519，以为满足substantial test了，就可以随便用了。当然了
，两个exemption也就$8,000不到，不太至于为了这点来audit你。
5
【在 n**d 的大作中提到】
: Do everybody a favor, go read publication 519 chapter 1 and 5, especially 5
: - Exemptions, and then come back and post. Thank you.
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m******g
发帖数: 498 | 27 前面也有人说了即便满足了test,也未必就是resident alien了。读一读这段吧：
“Even if you meet the substantial presence test, you can be treated as a
nonresident alien if you are present in the United States for fewer than 183
days during the current calendar year, you maintain a tax home in a foreign
country during the year, and you have a closer connection to that country
than to the United States. This does not apply if you have applied for
status as a lawful permanent resident of the United States, or you have an
application pending for adjustment of status.”
Again，被抓到是小概率事件，但并不是说可以随便用这条rule没限制
5
【在 n**d 的大作中提到】
: Do everybody a favor, go read publication 519 chapter 1 and 5, especially 5
: - Exemptions, and then come back and post. Thank you.
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 28 It is not what I heard. It is a real case and I actually helped prepare the
tax return. My friend who is a CPA told me just do it that way, but do not
complain if you get audited and denied.
Actually, the law is not that difficult to understand. I believe someone
else in this lead is a professional and laid it out quite clearly. You may
choose whatever you want to believe.
【在 n**d 的大作中提到】
: sigh. Please do some study before making conclusion. Not just "heard" or "
: knew" someone is audited. Too many variables.
: Parent can be claimed as dependent if they stay 180 days/year in US (other
: calculation available) and have TIN. No PR required. Period.
: However, to claim parent as dependent, YOU must be PR (or as PR for tax
: purpose).
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h******g
发帖数: 21 | 29 今天又跟他见面了,当面问了涨价的原因.他说我们的税越来越难做了.我觉得很奇怪,让
他举例说明.他说,"比如你们去大陆的机票和开销."这个要说明一下,我们是去大陆谈生
意,机票和酒店难道不能算business expense吗?有什么难的.哪些能报,哪些不能报,直
接说明就好了,为什么要这个为理由提高service fee,感觉上他报了不该报的,然后问我
多收钱.
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢你的答复.正常的涨价我理解,只是觉得他应该先跟我们沟通,还有态度问题.
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h******g
发帖数: 21 | 30 我好苯,有空研究研究.
【在 d*******n 的大作中提到】
: payroll service 涨了18%，到底是多少的比率？
: 想知道我省了多少钱？这个东西那么简单，还需要专门人来做？设定好了以后，每个月
: 都是一样的。
:
: fee
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m******g
发帖数: 498 | 31 果断换啊。
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 今天又跟他见面了,当面问了涨价的原因.他说我们的税越来越难做了.我觉得很奇怪,让
: 他举例说明.他说,"比如你们去大陆的机票和开销."这个要说明一下,我们是去大陆谈生
: 意,机票和酒店难道不能算business expense吗?有什么难的.哪些能报,哪些不能报,直
: 接说明就好了,为什么要这个为理由提高service fee,感觉上他报了不该报的,然后问我
: 多收钱.
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h******g
发帖数: 21 | 32 恩.话说上次去他office是12月初,有个新面孔,然后今天去他又在培训两个新人.
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 果断换啊。
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h******g
发帖数: 21 | 33 这么说的话,没有绿卡就是"maintain a tax home in a foreign country during the
year"咯.
Anyways,问个问题.如果我要给探亲父母申请ITIN是不是先把他们当dependent报
without 税号,然后连同w-7和必要证件一起寄到IRS? 谢谢!
183
foreign
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 前面也有人说了即便满足了test,也未必就是resident alien了。读一读这段吧：
: “Even if you meet the substantial presence test, you can be treated as a
: nonresident alien if you are present in the United States for fewer than 183
: days during the current calendar year, you maintain a tax home in a foreign
: country during the year, and you have a closer connection to that country
: than to the United States. This does not apply if you have applied for
: status as a lawful permanent resident of the United States, or you have an
: application pending for adjustment of status.”
: Again，被抓到是小概率事件，但并不是说可以随便用这条rule没限制
:
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g*****i
发帖数: 9630 | 34 confirmed with my PWC tax advisor, no PR needed for parents, but you need to
be RA to claim dependents.
is
read
lawful.
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: I have friend who has been audited. The reason for the denial is his mom is
: not PR (she has social and she passes the day test). Actually if you read
: the law yourself, it is quite clear, even though it is separated in two
: terms.
: you can still do it at your own risk. But let's clarify that is not lawful.
:
: that
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 35 yes,my friend is a PR. But still got denied.
Anyway, you can do it and wait until IRS audits.
to
【在 g*****i 的大作中提到】
: confirmed with my PWC tax advisor, no PR needed for parents, but you need to
: be RA to claim dependents.
:
: is
: read
: lawful.
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