j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 1 之前看过很多讨论,也爬过那个高楼
今天把2014和2015的8965 instruction对照了一下,发现去年的exemption C有改动:
最后一条新加的:
The individual is a nonresident alien, including (1) a dual-status
alien in the first year of U.S. residency and (2) a nonresident
alien or dual-status alien who elects to file a joint return
with a U.S. spouse. You can claim the coverage exemption for
the entire year. This exemption doesn't apply if you are a nonresident
alien for 2015, but met certain presence requirements and
elected to be treated as a U.S. resident. For more information
see Pub. 519.
所以如果说去年还是grey zone,今年已经有clarify
就是不知道如果父母不在美国的月份可以不交罚款吗?是不是算成not lawfully
present
自己修改一下
又看了一下,不对
那最后一条是对不满足resident alien的情况,就是说没有pass green card test or
substantial presence test
如果父母pass了substantial presence test就应该是resident alien,那还是有可能
用这条:
A resident alien who was a citizen or national of a foreign country with
which the U.S. has an income tax treaty with a nondiscrimination clause, and
you were a bona fide resident of a foreign country for an uninterrupted
period that includes an entire tax year; |
j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 2 自己顶一下
到底要不要交罚款啊
不在这儿的月份至少可以exempt吧?
【在 j*****8 的大作中提到】 : 之前看过很多讨论,也爬过那个高楼 : 今天把2014和2015的8965 instruction对照了一下,发现去年的exemption C有改动: : 最后一条新加的: : The individual is a nonresident alien, including (1) a dual-status : alien in the first year of U.S. residency and (2) a nonresident : alien or dual-status alien who elects to file a joint return : with a U.S. spouse. You can claim the coverage exemption for : the entire year. This exemption doesn't apply if you are a nonresident : alien for 2015, but met certain presence requirements and : elected to be treated as a U.S. resident. For more information
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j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 3 自己研究了两天,找到了这个依据:
https://www.irs.gov/Affordable-Care-Act/Individuals-and-Familie
and-Answers-on-the-Individual-Shared-Responsibility-Provision#Minimum%
20Essential%20Coverage
第11条:
11. Are all individuals living in the United States subject to the
individual shared responsibility provision?
All U.S. citizens living in the United States are subject to the individual
shared responsibility provision as are all permanent residents and all
foreign nationals who are in the United States long enough during a calendar
year to qualify as resident aliens for tax purposes. This category includes
nonresident aliens who meet certain presence requirements and elect to be
treated as resident aliens. For more information see Pub. 519.
所以父母作为resident ailiens,成为我们dependent报税是要交这个individual
shared responsibility
最后一个疑问就是,他们在中国的时间是有中国的保险,又查了下:
Foreign coverage. In general, coverage provided by a foreign employer to its
employees and related individuals is minimum essential coverage
上面的链接里也有:For this purpose, minimum essential coverage includes a
group health plan provided by an overseas employer and certain expatriate
health plans.
所以我觉得他们不在美国的月份是不用再填一份8965 report exemption。就是说按照
worksheet算出来美国的月份的罚款,填在1040里的Health care: individual
responsibility,是不是就行了
8965里还专门说:Form 8965 is used only to claim and report coverage
exemptions. Don't use it to report minimum essential coverage even if you
are unable to check the Full-year coverage box on your tax return.
【在 j*****8 的大作中提到】 : 自己顶一下 : 到底要不要交罚款啊 : 不在这儿的月份至少可以exempt吧?
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a******2 发帖数: 308 | 4 谢谢自问自答的分享。
既然是resident alien可以用条款c,那不在美国的月份更可以用条款c了。 个人觉得
, 把全年挑勾就行了。 |
j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 5 你可以仔细读读我最后更新的那个链接,里面明确说需要交罚款的:
all foreign nationals who are in the United States long enough during a
calendar year to qualify as resident aliens for tax purposes.
之前认为可以用exempt C是不适用于这种情况的,但他们不在美国的月份其实是有国内
保险的,我个人认为都不用填8965,只要算了在美国月份的罚款就行
【在 a******2 的大作中提到】 : 谢谢自问自答的分享。 : 既然是resident alien可以用条款c,那不在美国的月份更可以用条款c了。 个人觉得 : , 把全年挑勾就行了。
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | |
j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 7 我觉得是
【在 c******3 的大作中提到】 : 保险这块还是很头痛,今年加这行后只能交罚款了吧
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 8 我仔细看了下,因为父母年龄大,一个月要2000多保费(最低$1055/人),所以我可以
选择“豁免A:不可承受的保险支出”
【在 j*****8 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得是
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j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 9 能不能承受应该按你的gross income,如果要一起报税的话
【在 c******3 的大作中提到】 : 我仔细看了下,因为父母年龄大,一个月要2000多保费(最低$1055/人),所以我可以 : 选择“豁免A:不可承受的保险支出”
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 10 是的,按照8.05%比例算
正好我单身加父母,保费过10%以上(他们俩一年保费20000多,除非年薪25万以上才低
于8%)
【在 j*****8 的大作中提到】 : 能不能承受应该按你的gross income,如果要一起报税的话
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B***i 发帖数: 1208 | 11 good point.
【在 c******3 的大作中提到】 : 是的,按照8.05%比例算 : 正好我单身加父母,保费过10%以上(他们俩一年保费20000多,除非年薪25万以上才低 : 于8%)
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j*****8 发帖数: 363 | 12 试了试,好像不太容易满足
【在 B***i 的大作中提到】 : good point.
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