o******e
发帖数: 3522 | 1 现在飞行技术也比较好了，遇到一个没有高手的服务器。 打得太爽了，17杀1死
任何出现的坦克，5秒内必定被我打爆。敌方飞机还没起飞就被我打掉。
终于是我虐待别人了。
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/26686801 | d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 2 现在空的坦克也可以被空中lock后攻击了.
以前坦克受创后可以出来躲在后面边修边躲避空中lock,现在往往在修时,被第二轮攻击
连人带坦克一起灭.这对有经验的飞机,直升机比较有利.
另外工程兵修坦克需要的时间增加了.
splash伤害好象减弱了.坦克,IFV攻击力明显弱了.
BF3坦克单打独斗的时代结束了.
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 现在飞行技术也比较好了，遇到一个没有高手的服务器。 打得太爽了，17杀1死
: 任何出现的坦克，5秒内必定被我打爆。敌方飞机还没起飞就被我打掉。
: 终于是我虐待别人了。
: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/26686801
| B****I
发帖数: 2114 | 3 坦克都脆多了。。。
现在拿主炮+导弹一轮就爆了。。。
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: 现在空的坦克也可以被空中lock后攻击了.
: 以前坦克受创后可以出来躲在后面边修边躲避空中lock,现在往往在修时,被第二轮攻击
: 连人带坦克一起灭.这对有经验的飞机,直升机比较有利.
: 另外工程兵修坦克需要的时间增加了.
: splash伤害好象减弱了.坦克,IFV攻击力明显弱了.
: BF3坦克单打独斗的时代结束了.
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 4 yeah, in general jets should dominate tanks.
however, it's not always 1 on 1 fighting. A jet has limited time window to
take out a tank, so most of the time, a jet will hit the tank or disable it.
A good jet fighter will always circle back to finish the job.
Before yesterday's patch, a tanker will have good chance of surviving the
attack because: once the tanker exits the tank, the jet can't lock onto it
anymore, also the repair torch works very fast.
After the patch, the jet can still lock onto the empty tank and the repair
torch is much slower.
not only jet, now tank-to-tank, engineer-to-tank damages are multiplied. I'
ve got killed by two rpg shots many times yesterday (100% full health tanks)
【在 B****I 的大作中提到】
: 坦克都脆多了。。。
: 现在拿主炮+导弹一轮就爆了。。。
| o******e
发帖数: 3522 | 5 那是f-18跟su-35.
如果是A-10或su-25, 机枪是穿甲弹，就算2个人同时修坦克也照样可以5秒内打爆。那
个机枪实在是太猛，如果坦克被发现，除了等死没别的选择。除非队友侧击飞机，要不
那真的是无情的rape.
it.
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: yeah, in general jets should dominate tanks.
: however, it's not always 1 on 1 fighting. A jet has limited time window to
: take out a tank, so most of the time, a jet will hit the tank or disable it.
: A good jet fighter will always circle back to finish the job.
: Before yesterday's patch, a tanker will have good chance of surviving the
: attack because: once the tanker exits the tank, the jet can't lock onto it
: anymore, also the repair torch works very fast.
: After the patch, the jet can still lock onto the empty tank and the repair
: torch is much slower.
: not only jet, now tank-to-tank, engineer-to-tank damages are multiplied. I'
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 6 I'll clarify this,
I'm a tanker. 50% of my playing time is either in tank or IFV.
Now before the patch, Jets/helis are minor headaches. I've gotten taken out
by jets in one round of attack very rarely. I've been taken out by namely
the A-10 so quickly that I can't react, maybe a few times only. (I've played
~1000 rounds of BF3).
I judge, by the rate of decrease in my tank's health, what to do to avoid
being killed.
If a jet is diving towards me and my health goes from 100% to 10%, I'm f**
king out of here lol. I know I won't stand a chance, so #1 priority is to
find a shelter...
However, if my tank's health stays let's say 40% - I know the jet needs time
to circle back, and my torch will work fast enough to restore the health to
withstand another round of attack, so I fix my tank.
So if I'm killed before I can react, there is nothing I can do, but that
rarely happens. (it does, but rarely). I'm not the type that parks my tank
and try to shoot down planes, I go full throttle and try to minimize my
exposure to air.
Now, after the patch, it's completely different. jets/helis have absolute
dominance. Anti-armor just got a lot stronger.
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 那是f-18跟su-35.
: 如果是A-10或su-25, 机枪是穿甲弹，就算2个人同时修坦克也照样可以5秒内打爆。那
: 个机枪实在是太猛，如果坦克被发现，除了等死没别的选择。除非队友侧击飞机，要不
: 那真的是无情的rape.
:
: it.
| o******e
发帖数: 3522 | 7 有意思，我是pilot，一般飞起来如果没看到敌机的话，第一要打的就是anti-air
如果是a-18/su-35, 我会从很远开始进攻（这个时候你的导弹没法锁定我，机枪也打不
到），16发导弹打完后肯定disable,换机枪再打3秒。然后再换导弹打，这次肯定打爆
。你能做的就是在我攻击的间隙里逃跑，如果你在Disable后跑出来修，十有八九要被
导弹的溅伤打死。这样的事我做过太多次了。
如果没有队友支持你，任何地面载具都太太太vulnerable了。因为飞机打地面目标的时
候，菊花是大开的。
如果是a-10/su-25, 你肯本连反应的时间都没有，一下就挂。
out
played
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: I'll clarify this,
: I'm a tanker. 50% of my playing time is either in tank or IFV.
: Now before the patch, Jets/helis are minor headaches. I've gotten taken out
: by jets in one round of attack very rarely. I've been taken out by namely
: the A-10 so quickly that I can't react, maybe a few times only. (I've played
: ~1000 rounds of BF3).
: I judge, by the rate of decrease in my tank's health, what to do to avoid
: being killed.
: If a jet is diving towards me and my health goes from 100% to 10%, I'm f**
: king out of here lol. I know I won't stand a chance, so #1 priority is to
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 8 Jets should have clear dominance over tank. It's at the top of the food
chain, lol, and it's the toughest to learn/master.
A tanker's better have some backup skills, so when the air superiority is on
the other side, the tanker can be productive in other ways. after all, jets
are not designed to capture flags. So you can happy all over the sky, but I
'm going to pound the ground so you lose the round.
In my previous game, ace pilots will actively hunt down tankers, and then
take out the empty planes/tanks at the enemy's home base. I have not seen
this happen often in BF3. Also in BF3, once I know there is an ace on the
other side, I switch role to an infantry. The side bleeds ticket very fast
if it has less flags.
However, after yesterday's patch, I notice that flags no longer cause as
fast a ticket bleed. That, in another way, adds advantage to the jet.
Because the pilot will have less urgency to worry about flags disadvantage.
I think the patch tilted the balance a little bit too much. maybe it's in
preparation for the upcoming add-ons. but will need to adjust to survive
till then.
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 有意思，我是pilot，一般飞起来如果没看到敌机的话，第一要打的就是anti-air
: 如果是a-18/su-35, 我会从很远开始进攻（这个时候你的导弹没法锁定我，机枪也打不
: 到），16发导弹打完后肯定disable,换机枪再打3秒。然后再换导弹打，这次肯定打爆
: 。你能做的就是在我攻击的间隙里逃跑，如果你在Disable后跑出来修，十有八九要被
: 导弹的溅伤打死。这样的事我做过太多次了。
: 如果没有队友支持你，任何地面载具都太太太vulnerable了。因为飞机打地面目标的时
: 候，菊花是大开的。
: 如果是a-10/su-25, 你肯本连反应的时间都没有，一下就挂。
:
: out
| B****I
发帖数: 2114 | 9 攻击机的机炮补丁前打坦克就很好用了。。。
对准了一把就搞定。。。
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 那是f-18跟su-35.
: 如果是A-10或su-25, 机枪是穿甲弹，就算2个人同时修坦克也照样可以5秒内打爆。那
: 个机枪实在是太猛，如果坦克被发现，除了等死没别的选择。除非队友侧击飞机，要不
: 那真的是无情的rape.
:
: it.
| s******p
发帖数: 4962 | 10 升级以后我back to karkand包就没装成功过，你的在呢么杨？
【在 B****I 的大作中提到】
: 攻击机的机炮补丁前打坦克就很好用了。。。
: 对准了一把就搞定。。。
| | | B****I
发帖数: 2114 | 11 我上阵子重新下过。。。
安上1.04就能玩了
【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: 升级以后我back to karkand包就没装成功过，你的在呢么杨？
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 12 再多说两句.没有争论的意思.
似乎conquest里A-10很少?
我记得我在坦克被JET一轮干掉的是在karg island/caspian border的rush里,好象都是
A-10.
而同样两个地图的conquest,我不记得碰到过A-10.
我坦克附件里有reactive armor.
另外patch前武直要一轮干掉有reactive armor的坦克是很不容易的.patch后,坦克被侦
察直升机都可以打得到处找洞钻...
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 有意思，我是pilot，一般飞起来如果没看到敌机的话，第一要打的就是anti-air
: 如果是a-18/su-35, 我会从很远开始进攻（这个时候你的导弹没法锁定我，机枪也打不
: 到），16发导弹打完后肯定disable,换机枪再打3秒。然后再换导弹打，这次肯定打爆
: 。你能做的就是在我攻击的间隙里逃跑，如果你在Disable后跑出来修，十有八九要被
: 导弹的溅伤打死。这样的事我做过太多次了。
: 如果没有队友支持你，任何地面载具都太太太vulnerable了。因为飞机打地面目标的时
: 候，菊花是大开的。
: 如果是a-10/su-25, 你肯本连反应的时间都没有，一下就挂。
:
: out
| o******e
发帖数: 3522 | 13 大家都是来讨论的，没啥
a-10跟su-25只有rush有，如果真在cq里飞起来的话，要被f-18, su-35打得找不到北
heli如果有配好的Gunner,一轮是可以打爆坦克的。一般野人没那么高的配合，所以一
般不怕。
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: 再多说两句.没有争论的意思.
: 似乎conquest里A-10很少?
: 我记得我在坦克被JET一轮干掉的是在karg island/caspian border的rush里,好象都是
: A-10.
: 而同样两个地图的conquest,我不记得碰到过A-10.
: 我坦克附件里有reactive armor.
: 另外patch前武直要一轮干掉有reactive armor的坦克是很不容易的.patch后,坦克被侦
: 察直升机都可以打得到处找洞钻...
| B****I
发帖数: 2114 | 14 rush里才有攻击机
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: 再多说两句.没有争论的意思.
: 似乎conquest里A-10很少?
: 我记得我在坦克被JET一轮干掉的是在karg island/caspian border的rush里,好象都是
: A-10.
: 而同样两个地图的conquest,我不记得碰到过A-10.
: 我坦克附件里有reactive armor.
: 另外patch前武直要一轮干掉有reactive armor的坦克是很不容易的.patch后,坦克被侦
: 察直升机都可以打得到处找洞钻...
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 15 no wonder I don't play rush that much. now I know exactly why
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: 大家都是来讨论的，没啥
: a-10跟su-25只有rush有，如果真在cq里飞起来的话，要被f-18, su-35打得找不到北
: heli如果有配好的Gunner,一轮是可以打爆坦克的。一般野人没那么高的配合，所以一
: 般不怕。
| o******e
发帖数: 3522 | 16 I played the new bf3. Oh my god, the game feel so different now
Jets can take out tank with full 14 rounds of rockets, it is so freaking
powerful that no one drives tanks anymore.
But jet machine gun is nerfed, it is so so so so difficult to kill another
jet.
Guns feel so fucking different that I was raped really hard.
To be honest, i don't like the change.
【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: no wonder I don't play rush that much. now I know exactly why
| d*******i
发帖数: 2354 | 17 Tank is hit hard. USAS is no longer magical. Many guns' recoil increased. I'
ve changed all my guns from supressor to heavy barrel, because even with
supressor, the recoil is hard to control and I might just as well use heavy
barrel and short burst.
I think I'll play as an infantry most of the time now. It definitely feels
like a different game now.
【在 o******e 的大作中提到】
: I played the new bf3. Oh my god, the game feel so different now
: Jets can take out tank with full 14 rounds of rockets, it is so freaking
: powerful that no one drives tanks anymore.
: But jet machine gun is nerfed, it is so so so so difficult to kill another
: jet.
: Guns feel so fucking different that I was raped really hard.
: To be honest, i don't like the change.
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