c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 1 That is the title of a report yesterday (Jul. 27) in Voice of America
Chinese edition.
A quote:
"在2008年6月公布的苏士比台湾首富名单上,他的身价是1800亿新台币,合大约400亿
元人民币,名列台湾第三位最富有的人
"7月25号,郭台铭在订婚仪式上说,他和未婚妻已经签署协议,今后要捐出9成财富,
大约350亿元人民币,这个大手笔远远超过为台湾公益活动捐款的其他企业家,也使他
在全世界公益捐款人中屈指可数。
Here is Forbes first compilation of "Taiwan's 40 Richest."
www.forbes.com/2008/06/04/taiwan-richest-billionaires-biz-taiwanrichest08-cx
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m****a 发帖数: 90 | 2 盖茨做了好榜样
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : That is the title of a report yesterday (Jul. 27) in Voice of America : Chinese edition. : A quote: : "在2008年6月公布的苏士比台湾首富名单上,他的身价是1800亿新台币,合大约400亿 : 元人民币,名列台湾第三位最富有的人 : "7月25号,郭台铭在订婚仪式上说,他和未婚妻已经签署协议,今后要捐出9成财富, : 大约350亿元人民币,这个大手笔远远超过为台湾公益活动捐款的其他企业家,也使他 : 在全世界公益捐款人中屈指可数。 : Here is Forbes first compilation of "Taiwan's 40 Richest." : www.forbes.com/2008/06/04/taiwan-richest-billionaires-biz-taiwanrichest08-cx
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p*****n 发帖数: 1415 | 3
cx
学比尔盖兹
不错不错 了不起
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : That is the title of a report yesterday (Jul. 27) in Voice of America : Chinese edition. : A quote: : "在2008年6月公布的苏士比台湾首富名单上,他的身价是1800亿新台币,合大约400亿 : 元人民币,名列台湾第三位最富有的人 : "7月25号,郭台铭在订婚仪式上说,他和未婚妻已经签署协议,今后要捐出9成财富, : 大约350亿元人民币,这个大手笔远远超过为台湾公益活动捐款的其他企业家,也使他 : 在全世界公益捐款人中屈指可数。 : Here is Forbes first compilation of "Taiwan's 40 Richest." : www.forbes.com/2008/06/04/taiwan-richest-billionaires-biz-taiwanrichest08-cx
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 4 我不知道耶。我对这件事的看法比较保留。
Bill Gates是一直都在捐钱,而且他基金会的运作大家都看得到。
那种说要把身后捐出来的,我现在还没办法肯定。谁知道道时会剩多少身家?台湾富豪
把钱东藏西挪的本事太大了。当年台湾首富蔡万霖过世后,他九成以上的财产都已经转
移,近千亿的遗产税变成只有几亿元,那种乾坤大法实在令人叹为观止。郭台铭如果也
这样做,那还有什么令人可以觉得他了不起的地方?
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】 : : cx : 学比尔盖兹 : 不错不错 了不起
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p*****n 发帖数: 1415 | 5 还有这种巧门
得注意一下
说的也是 生前不做善事 死后做
这是什么心态 不解
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : 我不知道耶。我对这件事的看法比较保留。 : Bill Gates是一直都在捐钱,而且他基金会的运作大家都看得到。 : 那种说要把身后捐出来的,我现在还没办法肯定。谁知道道时会剩多少身家?台湾富豪 : 把钱东藏西挪的本事太大了。当年台湾首富蔡万霖过世后,他九成以上的财产都已经转 : 移,近千亿的遗产税变成只有几亿元,那种乾坤大法实在令人叹为观止。郭台铭如果也 : 这样做,那还有什么令人可以觉得他了不起的地方?
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p*********f 发帖数: 633 | 6
台湾捐给公益机构的遗产要不要收遗产税?
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : 我不知道耶。我对这件事的看法比较保留。 : Bill Gates是一直都在捐钱,而且他基金会的运作大家都看得到。 : 那种说要把身后捐出来的,我现在还没办法肯定。谁知道道时会剩多少身家?台湾富豪 : 把钱东藏西挪的本事太大了。当年台湾首富蔡万霖过世后,他九成以上的财产都已经转 : 移,近千亿的遗产税变成只有几亿元,那种乾坤大法实在令人叹为观止。郭台铭如果也 : 这样做,那还有什么令人可以觉得他了不起的地方?
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 7 过世之后就没法捐给任何机构了。遗产就是要先缴遗产税,最高50%,剩下的随便继承
人要怎样做。不过缴了遗产税之后,继承人都不会再捐一毛钱,反正也没有节税的用途
了。
【在 p*********f 的大作中提到】 : : 台湾捐给公益机构的遗产要不要收遗产税?
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 8 No. No limit on how much to donate. 100% free from estate tax. For various
name for the same tax (e.g., inheritance tax), see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance_tax
See Ministry of Finance of Taiwan 财政部
http://www.etax.nat.gov.tw/wSite/np?ctNode=11373 |
p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 9 Heck. Of course there's no limit, but only on the condition that the
donation was completed BEFORE death.
http://www.etax.nat.gov.tw/wSite/ct?xItem=28725&ctNode=11378
1. 接受捐赠的财团法人应该在被继承人死亡的时候,已经依法设立登记并且符合行政
院规定标准。
2. 应该拿到接受捐赠财团法人的同意书,才可以不计入遗产总额课税。
It only goes on proving how bad your Chinese is. By definition when it
becomes "遗产", the inheritors can't touch it until all inheritance taxes
are cleared. There won't be able more donations allowed.
I know this too well, as I had to go through all t
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : No. No limit on how much to donate. 100% free from estate tax. For various : name for the same tax (e.g., inheritance tax), see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance_tax : See Ministry of Finance of Taiwan 财政部 : http://www.etax.nat.gov.tw/wSite/np?ctNode=11373
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 10 Your link is right after my "3513 那些财产可不计入遗产总额课税?" Surely I
had read it before I wrote the previous posting.
However, you are mistaken. The difference between my ""3513 那些财产可不计入
遗产总额课税?" and yours is 财团法人 in yours. If charity giving is to me,
for example, there will be no such restriction.
And there have been few estate cases in Taiwan that last ten years. I can
recall two.
You are not a 财团法人, how could you get entangled in an estate case?
You wrote, "By definition when it becomes "遗产", the in
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : Heck. Of course there's no limit, but only on the condition that the : donation was completed BEFORE death. : http://www.etax.nat.gov.tw/wSite/ct?xItem=28725&ctNode=11378 : 1. 接受捐赠的财团法人应该在被继承人死亡的时候,已经依法设立登记并且符合行政 : 院规定标准。 : 2. 应该拿到接受捐赠财团法人的同意书,才可以不计入遗产总额课税。 : It only goes on proving how bad your Chinese is. By definition when it : becomes "遗产", the inheritors can't touch it until all inheritance taxes : are cleared. There won't be able more donations allowed. : I know this too well, as I had to go through all t
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 11 Go and study Chinese before you come back to argue with me.
You don't know who I am. My grandparents' cases are not yet finished, and
they have passed away for more than 10 years. Keep on guessing.
I
me,
touch
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : Your link is right after my "3513 那些财产可不计入遗产总额课税?" Surely I : had read it before I wrote the previous posting. : However, you are mistaken. The difference between my ""3513 那些财产可不计入 : 遗产总额课税?" and yours is 财团法人 in yours. If charity giving is to me, : for example, there will be no such restriction. : And there have been few estate cases in Taiwan that last ten years. I can : recall two. : You are not a 财团法人, how could you get entangled in an estate case? : You wrote, "By definition when it becomes "遗产", the in
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 12 I don't.
On the other hand, a few days ago, I read the list of 40 richest Taiwanese
again. (I read news before but did not go to Forbes.com to read the list.) I
was thinking: If I were in Taiwan, maybe the list may include ME. A few
people on the list, I had heard of them and in particular, their parents (
now deceased). when reading the list, I was thinking, "These people don't
have as much as I."
The thing is, after heirs divide the estate--by wild stretch, you may be in
this category--each po
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : Go and study Chinese before you come back to argue with me. : You don't know who I am. My grandparents' cases are not yet finished, and : they have passed away for more than 10 years. Keep on guessing. : : I : me, : touch
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p*********f 发帖数: 633 | 13
多谢解答。
就是说即使是遗嘱里写了要捐给公益机构,如果没有事先知会该机构,因而拿不出受
遗赠的证明来,也不能免税了?人去世之后再拿遗嘱去该机构开证明还来不来得及?
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : 过世之后就没法捐给任何机构了。遗产就是要先缴遗产税,最高50%,剩下的随便继承 : 人要怎样做。不过缴了遗产税之后,继承人都不会再捐一毛钱,反正也没有节税的用途 : 了。
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 14 Correction:
(1) "I read the list of 40 richest Taiwanese again. (I read news before but
did not go to Forbes.com to read the list.)"
The sentence should be
"I read the list of 40 richest Taiwanese FOR THE FIRST TIME. (I HAD read
news before but HAD not goNE to Forbes.com to read the list.)"
(2) The "of" in "Just ask the heirs of Mr. Sam Walton" should be "to." Heirs
TO the deceased.
I
in
of
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : I don't. : On the other hand, a few days ago, I read the list of 40 richest Taiwanese : again. (I read news before but did not go to Forbes.com to read the list.) I : was thinking: If I were in Taiwan, maybe the list may include ME. A few : people on the list, I had heard of them and in particular, their parents ( : now deceased). when reading the list, I was thinking, "These people don't : have as much as I." : The thing is, after heirs divide the estate--by wild stretch, you may be in : this category--each po
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 15 台湾的税法其实很繁复,而且有很多连国税局都解释不清的地方。这也是为什么很多人
为了遗产税缠讼多年(唉,如我),打不完的行政诉讼。
基本上如果遗嘱里有要捐给公益机关的,事先最好是有遗嘱的认证,也先知会该机构。
所以如果办理遗产信托会是一个较好的方式。
不过在这里面,最重要的是,一定要确被捐款的机构是为财政部所认可的机构,才不会
到头来被课征赠与税,还要被国税局先纳入遗产并课征遗产税再行赠与,真是吃
不了兜著走。
【在 p*********f 的大作中提到】 : : 多谢解答。 : 就是说即使是遗嘱里写了要捐给公益机构,如果没有事先知会该机构,因而拿不出受 : 遗赠的证明来,也不能免税了?人去世之后再拿遗嘱去该机构开证明还来不来得及?
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 16 忘了说,如果捐的是动产,过世三个月内要完成;不动产的转移必须在两年内完成,否
则会被课征遗产税。可是如果没有完成遗产税的申报与核准,不管是动产或是不动产都
无法转让,除非有国税局的特许\。这经常就是一个难题。
【在 p*********f 的大作中提到】 : : 多谢解答。 : 就是说即使是遗嘱里写了要捐给公益机构,如果没有事先知会该机构,因而拿不出受 : 遗赠的证明来,也不能免税了?人去世之后再拿遗嘱去该机构开证明还来不来得及?
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 17 You misinterpreted the sumary, "1. 接受捐赠的财团法人应该在被继承人死亡的时
候,已经依法设立登记并且符合行政院规定标准."
(1) The plain language says that if charity giving is to 财团法人--and 财团
法人 only--the 财团法人 has to be established before the giver dies. In
other words, once a person dies, Taiwan does not allow the heir(s) to
establish a brand new 财团法人 just to receive money from the deceased. The
reason, presumably, is Taiwan considers that act a tax evasion.
This interpretation is supported by the text of the estate law of Taiwan.
See
【在 p*********f 的大作中提到】 : : 多谢解答。 : 就是说即使是遗嘱里写了要捐给公益机构,如果没有事先知会该机构,因而拿不出受 : 遗赠的证明来,也不能免税了?人去世之后再拿遗嘱去该机构开证明还来不来得及?
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 18 Your reply is not exactly right. The three-month and two-year deadline do
not start from the death but from issuance of a certificate. See
遺產及贈與稅法施行細則 (民國 89 年 02 月 10 日 修正), Article 7, Paragraph 2:
"第 7 條
依本法第十六條第一款至第三款規定不計入遺產總額之遺產,納稅義務人
於申報遺產稅時,應檢具受遺贈人或受贈人同意受遺贈或受贈之證明列報
主管稽徵機關核發不計入遺產總額證明書。
前項捐贈之財產,其為不動產者,納稅義務人未於主管稽徵機關核發不計
入遺產總額證明書之日起二年內辦妥產權移轉登記;其為動產者,未於三
個月內交付與受遺贈人或受贈人者,除有特殊原因,報經主管稽徵機關核
准延期者外,應依法補徵遺產稅,並按郵政儲金匯業局一年期定期存款利
率加計利息。"
http://law.moj.gov.tw/Scripts/Query4B.asp?FullDoc=%A9%D2
【在 p***y 的大作中提到】 : 忘了说,如果捐的是动产,过世三个月内要完成;不动产的转移必须在两年内完成,否 : 则会被课征遗产税。可是如果没有完成遗产税的申报与核准,不管是动产或是不动产都 : 无法转让,除非有国税局的特许\。这经常就是一个难题。
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