c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 1 He says he won't buy friendship. But why does he keep giving money out? To
our "friend"?
An hour ago, there was this report.
Pedro Servin, Paraguay to reverse support for Taiwan at UN. Associated Press
, Sept. 1, 2008.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpbNAOrfJZ3vwfzyd51hMBYkbyKgD92U23A01
A quote:
"Even now, Paraguay's senate is considering accepting a new donation from
Taiwan of $71 million.
"'We will no longer vote (at the U.N.) for Taiwan despite the fact that we
recognize the aid the count | c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 2 It seems that both China and Taiwan keep spending big money on so called
friends, and this really puzzles me: why?
(1) Taiwan's new president to visit Guatemala, Paraguay to boost ties. DPA,
May 9, 2008.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1404482.php/Taiwans_new_president_to_visit_Guatemala_Paraguay_to_boost_ties
A quote:
"But Taiwan's ties with Latin American allies are shaky after Costa Rica -
Taiwan's ally of 60 years - dropped Taipei to recognize Beijing on June
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He says he won't buy friendship. But why does he keep giving money out? To : our "friend"? : An hour ago, there was this report. : Pedro Servin, Paraguay to reverse support for Taiwan at UN. Associated Press : , Sept. 1, 2008. : http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpbNAOrfJZ3vwfzyd51hMBYkbyKgD92U23A01 : A quote: : "Even now, Paraguay's senate is considering accepting a new donation from : Taiwan of $71 million. : "'We will no longer vote (at the U.N.) for Taiwan despite the fact that we
| c****t 发帖数: 1262 | 3 wonder個P,
如果你是這些‘鼻屎’大的國家的統治者,
面對大陸臺灣同樣的一筆錢或者都沒有錢,
你選哪個建交?
,
buy
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It seems that both China and Taiwan keep spending big money on so called : friends, and this really puzzles me: why? : (1) Taiwan's new president to visit Guatemala, Paraguay to boost ties. DPA, : May 9, 2008. : http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1404482.php/Taiwans_new_president_to_visit_Guatemala_Paraguay_to_boost_ties : A quote: : "But Taiwan's ties with Latin American allies are shaky after Costa Rica - : Taiwan's ally of 60 years - dropped Taipei to recognize Beijing on June
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 4 Friends don't talk money.
Without money from either, there will be many nations which will stick by
Taiwan. US has done that. Japan has done that. Europe has done that, to a
lesser extent. There is something called ideology. Then there is economy.
And geopolitis, also.
Furthermore, Pres. Ma supposedly has reached a compromise with China for "
diplomatic truce." In that case, China should be able to allow dual
recognition." Currently Taiwan allows it but China refuses. With dual
recognition, a na
【在 c****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : wonder個P, : 如果你是這些‘鼻屎’大的國家的統治者, : 面對大陸臺灣同樣的一筆錢或者都沒有錢, : 你選哪個建交? : : , : buy
| c****t 发帖数: 1262 | 5 前提都搞不懂的人不知道在搞些什么?
誰要同你dual了,那還不如直接承認臺灣獨立呢,做夢也要現實點。
US,JP,EU都同大陸維持外交關系,或承認,或認知,大陸臺灣同屬一個中國。
‘鼻屎’大的國家當然也可以仿效了,這樣既承認PRC,又‘挺’taiwan啊。
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Friends don't talk money. : Without money from either, there will be many nations which will stick by : Taiwan. US has done that. Japan has done that. Europe has done that, to a : lesser extent. There is something called ideology. Then there is economy. : And geopolitis, also. : Furthermore, Pres. Ma supposedly has reached a compromise with China for " : diplomatic truce." In that case, China should be able to allow dual : recognition." Currently Taiwan allows it but China refuses. With dual : recognition, a na
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 6 You know what "acknowledge" means. The word was not what China had expected
in 1970s when China signed those documents. There is no need fo rus to
debate that word, as the reality is clear.
I can't speak for Taiwan but your last sentence is not bad. On hte other
hand, if there is diplomatic truce, China is supposed to turn down offer
from Taiwan's "friends" to switch. So the premises of the last sentence will
not exist.
【在 c****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 前提都搞不懂的人不知道在搞些什么? : 誰要同你dual了,那還不如直接承認臺灣獨立呢,做夢也要現實點。 : US,JP,EU都同大陸維持外交關系,或承認,或認知,大陸臺灣同屬一個中國。 : ‘鼻屎’大的國家當然也可以仿效了,這樣既承認PRC,又‘挺’taiwan啊。
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 7 With regard to Costa Rica, new documents obtained London-based Financial
Times shows China pay astronomical prices--tributes, I will call them--that
the previously disclosed sum, already humongous, turned out to be a peanut.
Jamil Anderlini, Secretive Beijing agency uses forex reserves to isolate
Taiwan. Financial Times, Sept. 12, 2008.
A quote:
"In January this year, Safe bought $150m in US dollardenominated bonds from
the government of Costa Rica as part of an agreement signed last year under
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It seems that both China and Taiwan keep spending big money on so called : friends, and this really puzzles me: why? : (1) Taiwan's new president to visit Guatemala, Paraguay to boost ties. DPA, : May 9, 2008. : http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1404482.php/Taiwans_new_president_to_visit_Guatemala_Paraguay_to_boost_ties : A quote: : "But Taiwan's ties with Latin American allies are shaky after Costa Rica - : Taiwan's ally of 60 years - dropped Taipei to recognize Beijing on June
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