c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 1 in a trial of Taiwan's former Intelligence Chief.
台湾审理前调查局长传扁出庭作证. VOA Chinese, Oct. 7, 2008.
A quote:
"法官倒是讯问了陈水扁不少问题,陈水扁坦承,他看过叶盛茂提供的相关洗钱情资中
文译本,但是他表示,调查局很多的情资是否确实,他也感到怀疑。
"陈水扁说,像是调查局曾经提供有关前亲民党主席宋楚瑜和大陆国台办主任陈云林在
美国会面一事,尽管调查局再三向他保证情资可靠,结果却让他挨了告,并且官司败诉。
"陈水扁还表示 * * * 他根本不知道艾格蒙联盟是一个国际性的洗钱防治组织。
"另外,陈水扁还表示,不清楚家人复杂的海外资金转汇过程,
My comment:
Mr. Chen Shui-bian was President. Was he supposed to know everything that
might or might not happen in Taiwan? Was he supposed to know everything that
might or might n | c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 2 陈水扁与前调查局长法庭对质. BBC Chinese, Oct. 8, 2008.
A quote:
"陈水扁在法庭上说,叶盛茂的确把部份相关情报资料交给他,但他的妻子都否认有汇
款海外之举,他当时选择相信妻子。
"陈水扁在法庭上并说调查局提供有关民进党的情报,经他查证并未实情,其可能意在
分化政党。
"据中央社转述,法官质问他若调查局靠不住为何不撤换叶盛茂,陈水扁回答说,这是
调查局长期的结构与生态问题,与局长个人无关。
My comment: US invaded Iraq based on erroeous intelligence provided by CIA.
It is imaginable that not all intelligence provided to a president is
accurate. Have you heard of the self-claimed crime fighter, the Egmond Group
, before the money laundering "scandal" surrounding Chen. Be fa
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : in a trial of Taiwan's former Intelligence Chief. : 台湾审理前调查局长传扁出庭作证. VOA Chinese, Oct. 7, 2008. : A quote: : "法官倒是讯问了陈水扁不少问题,陈水扁坦承,他看过叶盛茂提供的相关洗钱情资中 : 文译本,但是他表示,调查局很多的情资是否确实,他也感到怀疑。 : "陈水扁说,像是调查局曾经提供有关前亲民党主席宋楚瑜和大陆国台办主任陈云林在 : 美国会面一事,尽管调查局再三向他保证情资可靠,结果却让他挨了告,并且官司败诉。 : "陈水扁还表示 * * * 他根本不知道艾格蒙联盟是一个国际性的洗钱防治组织。 : "另外,陈水扁还表示,不清楚家人复杂的海外资金转汇过程, : My comment:
| o*****p 发帖数: 2977 | 3 据进入法庭旁听的台湾媒体转述,陈水扁在法庭上回答法官提问时说,其海外秘帐都是
他的选举结余款,汇往海外的目的是为了要作为国际外交与公共用途使用。
所以结果是:
陈的妻子把陈的选举结余款汇往海外秘帐,目的是为了要作为国际外交与公共用途使用。
这个伟大的构想,陈本人是不知道的。
当调查局发现钱转移,怀疑洗钱时,陈向妻子提问,他妻子没有告诉陈她转移钱到密账
,有非常伟大的目的,相反,她说她没转移过任何钱。诡异之一。
任何人,别人告诉他的厨房着火时,都不会琢磨这个人信用如何,而会跑两步看看是否
真着火。
一个总统,在别人告诉他账户洗钱时---如果他真是无知---至少会看,钱哪里来,账户
哪里,什么证据。但陈没有,一口咬定老婆说没着火就完了。诡异之二。
无论是陈的妻子还是他本人,行为模式都不合常理。
.
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : 陈水扁与前调查局长法庭对质. BBC Chinese, Oct. 8, 2008. : A quote: : "陈水扁在法庭上说,叶盛茂的确把部份相关情报资料交给他,但他的妻子都否认有汇 : 款海外之举,他当时选择相信妻子。 : "陈水扁在法庭上并说调查局提供有关民进党的情报,经他查证并未实情,其可能意在 : 分化政党。 : "据中央社转述,法官质问他若调查局靠不住为何不撤换叶盛茂,陈水扁回答说,这是 : 调查局长期的结构与生态问题,与局长个人无关。 : My comment: US invaded Iraq based on erroeous intelligence provided by CIA. : It is imaginable that not all intelligence provided to a president is
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 4 I am not conceding an inch on the former First lady, either.
Taiwanese are world-famously rich. Measured by per capita GDP (either
nominal or adjusted with PPP), Hong Kong has been higher than Taiwan for
decades. However, Taiwan has more wealthy households (and individuals) than
HK, thanks to smaller gap between the rich and the poor in the former. There
was a report in the section of Private Banking a few months ago
Peter Thal Larsen, Storms Cause Ripples in Haven of Calm. Financial Times,
June
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : 陈水扁与前调查局长法庭对质. BBC Chinese, Oct. 8, 2008. : A quote: : "陈水扁在法庭上说,叶盛茂的确把部份相关情报资料交给他,但他的妻子都否认有汇 : 款海外之举,他当时选择相信妻子。 : "陈水扁在法庭上并说调查局提供有关民进党的情报,经他查证并未实情,其可能意在 : 分化政党。 : "据中央社转述,法官质问他若调查局靠不住为何不撤换叶盛茂,陈水扁回答说,这是 : 调查局长期的结构与生态问题,与局长个人无关。 : My comment: US invaded Iraq based on erroeous intelligence provided by CIA. : It is imaginable that not all intelligence provided to a president is
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 5 You wrote, "当调查局发现钱转移,怀疑洗钱时,陈向妻子提问,他妻子没有告诉陈她
转移钱到密账,有非常伟大的目的,相反,她说她没转移过任何钱。诡异之一。"
Well, nobody but you says the account is "secret." On the other hand, are
you going to show off your bank account for us to admire?
It is not Taiwan's Investigation Bureau 调查局 that said something; it was
the Egmond Group. How many times do I have to tell you? (I don't know what
was said, nor do you or anybody in Taiwan but the prosecution in Taiwan, as
well as the the Egmond Group.)
Before then, many accusations of
【在 o*****p 的大作中提到】 : 据进入法庭旁听的台湾媒体转述,陈水扁在法庭上回答法官提问时说,其海外秘帐都是 : 他的选举结余款,汇往海外的目的是为了要作为国际外交与公共用途使用。 : 所以结果是: : 陈的妻子把陈的选举结余款汇往海外秘帐,目的是为了要作为国际外交与公共用途使用。 : 这个伟大的构想,陈本人是不知道的。 : 当调查局发现钱转移,怀疑洗钱时,陈向妻子提问,他妻子没有告诉陈她转移钱到密账 : ,有非常伟大的目的,相反,她说她没转移过任何钱。诡异之一。 : 任何人,别人告诉他的厨房着火时,都不会琢磨这个人信用如何,而会跑两步看看是否 : 真着火。 : 一个总统,在别人告诉他账户洗钱时---如果他真是无知---至少会看,钱哪里来,账户
| c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 6 I am uncertain if the Egmond Group provided correct information about Chen's
accounts. To the extent the Group did, it violated laws.
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【在 c**i 的大作中提到】 : You wrote, "当调查局发现钱转移,怀疑洗钱时,陈向妻子提问,他妻子没有告诉陈她 : 转移钱到密账,有非常伟大的目的,相反,她说她没转移过任何钱。诡异之一。" : Well, nobody but you says the account is "secret." On the other hand, are : you going to show off your bank account for us to admire? : It is not Taiwan's Investigation Bureau 调查局 that said something; it was : the Egmond Group. How many times do I have to tell you? (I don't know what : was said, nor do you or anybody in Taiwan but the prosecution in Taiwan, as : well as the the Egmond Group.) : Before then, many accusations of
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