K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 对于网球， “漂亮”与否对于我来说，从来都不是那么“计较”的。
打得漂亮，能拿到多少奖金呢？打得丑陋，会影响我的生活吗？ 呵
呵 。。。在场上，与其过分的计较动作“漂亮”，不如希望多赢几
场球。也许有人说，既然你不在乎动作，干嘛要练习呢？ 我热衷于
练习，但是不过分计较动作。因为很多漂亮的网球，只有不失误，
才会得分，也让我更加愉悦。 。。最最最反感的就是，那些因为有漂
亮的动作，就觉得自己很厉害，但是比赛总是狂败，真是没有意思。。。 |
a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 2 WOW, I have to say this is one of a few posts from you I couldn't agree with
you more! Unbelievable!
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 对于网球， “漂亮”与否对于我来说，从来都不是那么“计较”的。
: 打得漂亮，能拿到多少奖金呢？打得丑陋，会影响我的生活吗？ 呵
: 呵 。。。在场上，与其过分的计较动作“漂亮”，不如希望多赢几
: 场球。也许有人说，既然你不在乎动作，干嘛要练习呢？ 我热衷于
: 练习，但是不过分计较动作。因为很多漂亮的网球，只有不失误，
: 才会得分，也让我更加愉悦。 。。最最最反感的就是，那些因为有漂
: 亮的动作，就觉得自己很厉害，但是比赛总是狂败，真是没有意思。。。
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 3 正确的动作看起来漂亮，而且不会对你网球既技术的提高产生约束，还能减少运动伤害
。我很多球友在某些技术上有缺陷几乎全是因为动作不很正确，但多年的习惯已经该不
掉了， 所以水平也就停滞不前了。
有些人追求漂亮的动作我觉得实际上是在追求正确的动作， 但他们没有意识到漂亮而
且正确的动作需要循序渐进的练， 他们想一步到位，从一开始就有漂亮的动作，这应
该是虚荣心在作怪。 |
L*********n
发帖数: 22 | 4 好像你有得选一样…
打的丑陋且输球才是常态吧！
赢， 进攻， 华丽， 这才是任何运动的最高境界！ |
m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 5 it's unbelievable for me you agree with this...
with
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: WOW, I have to say this is one of a few posts from you I couldn't agree with
: you more! Unbelievable!
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 Actually in most USTA leagues, 打的丑陋且赢球是常态.
Think about it this way, if someone plays ugly and stays in
the same level of league with you (who play beautifully), it
must mean he is better than you in game strategies and controlling
errors.
【在 L*********n 的大作中提到】
: 好像你有得选一样…
: 打的丑陋且输球才是常态吧！
: 赢， 进攻， 华丽， 这才是任何运动的最高境界！
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 7 打的丑的人可能这辈子也不会提高，只能在这个level的league里打球，而动作漂亮的
人通过练习可能
明年就升到更高一级的league去了。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Actually in most USTA leagues, 打的丑陋且赢球是常态.
: Think about it this way, if someone plays ugly and stays in
: the same level of league with you (who play beautifully), it
: must mean he is better than you in game strategies and controlling
: errors.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 8 No reason for me to disagree on it.
【在 m*****r 的大作中提到】
: it's unbelievable for me you agree with this...
:
: with
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 9 That is true.
But at the ultimate level one settles in, percentage tennis is
the No.1 key in match performance. In another word, to win a
match against a similar level opponent, one has to play uglier
than what he can do in everyday practice or against a lower level
opponent.
【在 d****t 的大作中提到】
: 打的丑的人可能这辈子也不会提高，只能在这个level的league里打球，而动作漂亮的
: 人通过练习可能
: 明年就升到更高一级的league去了。
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 10 super strongly disagree on it.
I am the real-life example that 打的丑的人 could jump over different levels
of the leagues. Maybe I don't get any 提高 because of 打的丑. Just the level
of the league drops automatically only for me.
【在 d****t 的大作中提到】
: 打的丑的人可能这辈子也不会提高，只能在这个level的league里打球，而动作漂亮的
: 人通过练习可能
: 明年就升到更高一级的league去了。
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 11 my definition of 打的丑的人 is the form is not good, and most of time, it's
caused by flawed technique.by wacthing your ben here, i don't think you
are one of them.
people wining ugly is not in my definition.
i've seen people play in 3.5 league for years without improving because
their forms are fundamentally flawed. i've seen people play in 4.0 league
for years and can't get better because of flaws in their form.
levels
level
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: super strongly disagree on it.
: I am the real-life example that 打的丑的人 could jump over different levels
: of the leagues. Maybe I don't get any 提高 because of 打的丑. Just the level
: of the league drops automatically only for me.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 I am curious if anybody has seen someone played in 3.5 league
for years without improving because they could not improve their
UE. Someone like an unstable 暴力男？
s
【在 d****t 的大作中提到】
: my definition of 打的丑的人 is the form is not good, and most of time, it's
: caused by flawed technique.by wacthing your ben here, i don't think you
: are one of them.
: people wining ugly is not in my definition.
: i've seen people play in 3.5 league for years without improving because
: their forms are fundamentally flawed. i've seen people play in 4.0 league
: for years and can't get better because of flaws in their form.
:
: levels
: level
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 13 Actually, we can say "打的丑陋是常态" for amertures. Due to the large
percentage of people who "打的丑陋", it is definitely possible to have:
P(赢球, 打的丑陋) > P(赢球, not 打的丑陋)
If we randomly paired people instead of based on their league levels, I
think (no proof for sure): P(赢球|打的丑陋) < P(赢球|not 打的丑陋)
This is what really matters.
Talking about league, people have good forms usually won't stay in lower
level leagues for long. The fair way to compare is to look at 3.5, 4.0 and 4
.5 league and count the percentag
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Actually in most USTA leagues, 打的丑陋且赢球是常态.
: Think about it this way, if someone plays ugly and stays in
: the same level of league with you (who play beautifully), it
: must mean he is better than you in game strategies and controlling
: errors.
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o******r
发帖数: 346 | 14 呵呵，你这还停留在“能生孩子的婆娘就是好婆娘”的阶段。 |
a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 15 请列举你心目中好婆娘的标准.
【在 o******r 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，你这还停留在“能生孩子的婆娘就是好婆娘”的阶段。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 16 Very well said. I am actually also very interested in knowing
what the percentages are of ugly-forms in 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5
leagues. To be objective the standard of ugly-form should be
consistent. Waiting for some bulls who have experienced different
levels to reply.
But from common sense I think it's safe to assume
P(赢球|打的丑陋) < P(赢球|not 打的丑陋) for randomly selected
pairs.
I personally play with better forms than most of my 3.0 friends
but I cannot achieve a very high winning ratio due to my st
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Actually, we can say "打的丑陋是常态" for amertures. Due to the large
: percentage of people who "打的丑陋", it is definitely possible to have:
: P(赢球, 打的丑陋) > P(赢球, not 打的丑陋)
: If we randomly paired people instead of based on their league levels, I
: think (no proof for sure): P(赢球|打的丑陋) < P(赢球|not 打的丑陋)
: This is what really matters.
: Talking about league, people have good forms usually won't stay in lower
: level leagues for long. The fair way to compare is to look at 3.5, 4.0 and 4
: .5 league and count the percentag
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 17 In the park where I play, there are two guys usually play matches there. The
asian guy has better form and the black dude's form is ugly. However, the
winning ratio between them seems to be even. But I guess that's the reason
they play a lot with each other. The black dude always make two steps into
the court when serving. No one called foot fault on him though. And he
screams on every shot, even on drop shot. I guess these help to compensate
his form to some extent. :-)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Very well said. I am actually also very interested in knowing
: what the percentages are of ugly-forms in 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5
: leagues. To be objective the standard of ugly-form should be
: consistent. Waiting for some bulls who have experienced different
: levels to reply.
: But from common sense I think it's safe to assume
: P(赢球|打的丑陋) < P(赢球|not 打的丑陋) for randomly selected
: pairs.
: I personally play with better forms than most of my 3.0 friends
: but I cannot achieve a very high winning ratio due to my st
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