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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 3 是的,这个是下个目标。他天赋差,慢慢来。这个是他自己写的instruction:
How to hit a good forehand
Hi, my name is Eric, and today I’m going to teach you how to
hit a good forehand. First, you get in the ready position. This is the main
starting position. One: stand like you’re in line. Then, you bounce your
feet a little like you’re about to jump really high. Hold your racquet with
two hands in front of you, tilted slightly up. Now you’re ready to hit the
ball!
Now, turn to the right, and make the widest part of the racquet point
to the sky. Make sure to bend your knees, NOT body, to elevate the ball to
the air and over the ball. Keep your hands together on the racquet for now.
TURN YOUR BODY, NOT ARM. And also bend your arm. When you’ve turned about
midway through, let your right arm go and keep it there. When your left hand
reaches 90 degrees, stop. Now we really hit the ball!
It’s the moment you’ve been waiting for. It’s time to hit the ball
! When you start swinging let go of the bend. Also, widen your armspan.
Swing until it hits your shoulder. But a little before you finish, grab your
racquet with your right hand. It takes a lot of practice and work, but soon
you’ll master the forhand. Wait! There’s still more! You also have the
backhand to master, and more. Good luck on those, I guess!
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 儿子和老子都涨球了. : 下一步该练儿子的步伐了
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f*********e 发帖数: 179 | 4 打反手时,击球后不要刻意保持头部不动,有点太夸张了。老费的盯球是在超慢镜头里
面很短时间内保持头部不动。
小孩感兴趣,喜欢打网球就好。 |
x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 5 是,我也发现过尤不及。反手本身就是封闭式,没这个必要。
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打反手时,击球后不要刻意保持头部不动,有点太夸张了。老费的盯球是在超慢镜头里 : 面很短时间内保持头部不动。 : 小孩感兴趣,喜欢打网球就好。
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t*********r 发帖数: 630 | 6 相当棒
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.1
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是,我也发现过尤不及。反手本身就是封闭式,没这个必要。
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n**u 发帖数: 768 | 7 厉害! 开始我还以为是Eric和他儿子。後来才发现是你。 Backhand太猛了!
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是,我也发现过尤不及。反手本身就是封闭式,没这个必要。
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M******0 发帖数: 1280 | 8 这个要顶,狂赞标准的正反手。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是,我也发现过尤不及。反手本身就是封闭式,没这个必要。
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T*U 发帖数: 22634 | 9 牛人啊,动作派
发球,拍子难道不会挥到屋顶那根管子?
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是,我也发现过尤不及。反手本身就是封闭式,没这个必要。
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 10
LOL,我也想这个场地全给他lob到底线是无敌的打法。
娃动作非常标准。 但是不是太强调动作反而显得击球后不连贯自然?
【在 T*U 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 牛人啊,动作派 : 发球,拍子难道不会挥到屋顶那根管子?
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 11 but you beat me. I have to figure out how to handle your lob. My overhead is
probably 3.0
【在 n**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 厉害! 开始我还以为是Eric和他儿子。後来才发现是你。 Backhand太猛了!
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 12 do you see any problem with Eric? I feel there are some hidden problems,
especially at the FH.
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个要顶,狂赞标准的正反手。
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 13 Hehe, it's a special practice court at a 1.5 level floor. They won't let us
play game.
not counting the bad footwork, I still feel he still has problem on forehand
, not sure where. Maybe you are right, maybe it's something hidden beyond my
perception.
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : LOL,我也想这个场地全给他lob到底线是无敌的打法。 : 娃动作非常标准。 但是不是太强调动作反而显得击球后不连贯自然?
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M******0 发帖数: 1280 | 14 你儿子的动作很标准,比我儿子标准。看得出你很在动作上对他的高标准严要求。我有
些后悔给儿子请教练太晚,初期跟我练得太久,我打得不好瞎教(很多乒乓的方法),
走了不少弯路,特别是动作上。
如果你真的要我提建议的话,几点仅供参考
1)实用的技术要多打打比赛小孩才能体会,不知你儿子打多少比赛。
2)9岁了,可以开始改FH后摆动作了,实战中后摆太大,球来得快的话,swing时间太长
,打不准球或会击球偏晚。如果可以做到在身体左面看不到球拍就好了。小小孩很难做
到,因为力气小,9岁应该可以开始改了。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you see any problem with Eric? I feel there are some hidden problems, : especially at the FH.
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 15 他没打过正式比赛,都是小朋友group lesson玩。明年练练发球看看能不能打比赛。他
的static stroke两个月不教就忘光,而且一旦跑起来都变了样子。关键是自己从不去
想怎么打好球。基本是当个锻炼身体的活动。
你们孩子天赋好,court awareness好,这个更重要。stroke这个东西学起来不难,不
用担心起步晚,我一年前还引拍不转身,现在也改掉了毛病。
太长
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你儿子的动作很标准,比我儿子标准。看得出你很在动作上对他的高标准严要求。我有 : 些后悔给儿子请教练太晚,初期跟我练得太久,我打得不好瞎教(很多乒乓的方法), : 走了不少弯路,特别是动作上。 : 如果你真的要我提建议的话,几点仅供参考 : 1)实用的技术要多打打比赛小孩才能体会,不知你儿子打多少比赛。 : 2)9岁了,可以开始改FH后摆动作了,实战中后摆太大,球来得快的话,swing时间太长 : ,打不准球或会击球偏晚。如果可以做到在身体左面看不到球拍就好了。小小孩很难做 : 到,因为力气小,9岁应该可以开始改了。
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n**u 发帖数: 768 | 16 tiebreaker不算输,我们单打差不多,双打你比我强。 我主要是靠体力跑来跑去用正
手。 跑不动或跑不到就只好用lob来争取时间。 其实我lob那些points输赢各半。 lob
到你正手的我大都输了,你就是步伐有些问题,所以lob到反手的你输的多。
is
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but you beat me. I have to figure out how to handle your lob. My overhead is : probably 3.0
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 17 你看得准,我反手看着还行,比赛还是weakness,攻不起守不住。而且的确步伐有问题
,大角度来回几下就乱了。这点和肯打时暴露的特别明显。
lob
【在 n**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : tiebreaker不算输,我们单打差不多,双打你比我强。 我主要是靠体力跑来跑去用正 : 手。 跑不动或跑不到就只好用lob来争取时间。 其实我lob那些points输赢各半。 lob : 到你正手的我大都输了,你就是步伐有些问题,所以lob到反手的你输的多。 : : is
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a*******e 发帖数: 12169 | |
b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 19 赞! 娃打球很认真, 喜欢他的准备, 赞头不动盯球。 better than me in this
department. :)
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你看得准,我反手看着还行,比赛还是weakness,攻不起守不住。而且的确步伐有问题 : ,大角度来回几下就乱了。这点和肯打时暴露的特别明显。 : : lob
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 20 Come on, please provide some critic opinions, please be tough :)
Last year you pointed out I didn't have enough shoulder turn in forehand
preparation, now I feel I have corrected it.
My son still has stroke problems, especially on forehand side. His backhand
is pretty powerful, can even hit fast flat shot, but his forehand is almost
all something close to moonball.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞! 娃打球很认真, 喜欢他的准备, 赞头不动盯球。 better than me in this : department. :)
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 21 what's wrong with moonballs? :P Although it may look less "powerful", it
might be more affective, and it probably lays a better foundation for his
tennis growth down the road.
I'll take a closer look tonight.
backhand
almost
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Come on, please provide some critic opinions, please be tough :) : Last year you pointed out I didn't have enough shoulder turn in forehand : preparation, now I feel I have corrected it. : My son still has stroke problems, especially on forehand side. His backhand : is pretty powerful, can even hit fast flat shot, but his forehand is almost : all something close to moonball.
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 22 kao, your son is as good as it get... really not much to say... I really
like his focus, prep, and swing... There are minor things, but i think those
should correct with time as he get stronger.
FH same as MikeC100's kid, WTA fh vs ATP fh, your sons forehand backswing
crossed the body plane (see it on the left side of body)
footwork, seems your son is a bit tight (maybe cuz he's so focus). Like when
he shuffles back, it seems like he's putting in a lot effort yet he's not
getting to the spot quick enough. Be light on the feet and more lively (this
is still just a outcome... i'm not sure how I can describe it). Maybe do
some more footworks (without tennis racquet)...
backhand
almost
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Come on, please provide some critic opinions, please be tough :) : Last year you pointed out I didn't have enough shoulder turn in forehand : preparation, now I feel I have corrected it. : My son still has stroke problems, especially on forehand side. His backhand : is pretty powerful, can even hit fast flat shot, but his forehand is almost : all something close to moonball.
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 23 你应该开赛多带他打比赛,这个年龄需要比赛经验来提高整体的进步。 |
x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 24 OK thanks. Yes, footwork is getting heavier and sloppy, worse than a year
ago. I'll get some drills to do together with him. My footwork is not good
either in competitive matches.
those
when
this
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kao, your son is as good as it get... really not much to say... I really : like his focus, prep, and swing... There are minor things, but i think those : should correct with time as he get stronger. : FH same as MikeC100's kid, WTA fh vs ATP fh, your sons forehand backswing : crossed the body plane (see it on the left side of body) : footwork, seems your son is a bit tight (maybe cuz he's so focus). Like when : he shuffles back, it seems like he's putting in a lot effort yet he's not : getting to the spot quick enough. Be light on the feet and more lively (this : is still just a outcome... i'm not sure how I can describe it). Maybe do : some more footworks (without tennis racquet)...
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 25 This is 2016 plan, like your team's :)
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你应该开赛多带他打比赛,这个年龄需要比赛经验来提高整体的进步。
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l*****4 发帖数: 150 | 26 does he have a coach or he's taught by you?
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : OK thanks. Yes, footwork is getting heavier and sloppy, worse than a year : ago. I'll get some drills to do together with him. My footwork is not good : either in competitive matches. : : those : when : this
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 27 If you compare the 1st and 3rd video, you can perhaps see he's taught by me
:). On backhand I tried to let him learn by himself, coz I don't know how to
play double-handed backhand.
【在 l*****4 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : does he have a coach or he's taught by you?
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 28 应该早点打比赛啊, 这边的Joe的小孩和你儿子估计差不多大,
他现在好像也在Edison那边训练, 可以让老妖介绍介绍
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is 2016 plan, like your team's :)
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 29 he can't serve...learning it now...
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该早点打比赛啊, 这边的Joe的小孩和你儿子估计差不多大, : 他现在好像也在Edison那边训练, 可以让老妖介绍介绍
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 30 这个动作比我8岁的女儿打得好多了, 。不过我女儿打得比赛多,而且还 volley , 现
在 USTA JTT red ball 8 岁组 两次 local 冠军 haha. 主要是其他的小孩子都太差
了. 明年就到年龄, 要打 orange ball 的 USTA 比赛了,我两个女儿 (6, 8), 学了
快一年, private coach, 一周两次,平时训练都是 adult green ball
我个人的看法是,小孩子这个阶段,兴趣和信心最重要,不要太强调技术而搞得太枯燥
. USTA 的教练 跟我说, 好多小孩最后放弃, 不是技术的原因,所以,我让她们多
打比赛,娱乐为主. |
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h****5 发帖数: 174 | 31 也在edision?这个录像是在edison的club拍的?没看出来啊.
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该早点打比赛啊, 这边的Joe的小孩和你儿子估计差不多大, : 他现在好像也在Edison那边训练, 可以让老妖介绍介绍
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h****5 发帖数: 174 | 32 你的孩子正反手form都还不错,但都是限于站着打,我的观察是一跑起来就完全不行了.
其实网球腿比手重要,这点大部分人都意识不到.好的网球选手一定会是好的athlete.
发球是最重要的技术,一定要早练,越早越好.有些八九岁的女孩发球速度能到将近80MPH
.你儿子这个年级还不开始,过几年打比赛会有大麻烦.
话糙理不糙,不要喷我.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : he can't serve...learning it now...
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 33 You are absolutely right. I'll try these little by little.
He's not talented, and not a smart player either. I'd give him whatever I
can offer, having Tennis as good bonding and good exercise. But I know from
my heart I can't have much expectation on him.
80MPH
【在 h****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的孩子正反手form都还不错,但都是限于站着打,我的观察是一跑起来就完全不行了. : 其实网球腿比手重要,这点大部分人都意识不到.好的网球选手一定会是好的athlete. : 发球是最重要的技术,一定要早练,越早越好.有些八九岁的女孩发球速度能到将近80MPH : .你儿子这个年级还不开始,过几年打比赛会有大麻烦. : 话糙理不糙,不要喷我.
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 34 什么8岁的小孩发球能有80 mph?
我看这儿10岁的 state championship game 也没有80 mph , 能有40,50就很不错了。
当然,我对速度的估算可能也不准。
[在 hl3515 (土人) 的大作中提到:]
:你的孩子正反手form都还不错,但都是限于站着打,我的观察是一跑起来就完全不行了.
:其实网球腿比手重要,这点大部分人都意识不到.好的网球选手一定会是好的athlete.
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h****5 发帖数: 174 | 35 top 5 national
你说的state championship是JTT的? Team tennis是比较低水平的比赛.好的只打个人
比赛吧.
了.
athlete.
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 什么8岁的小孩发球能有80 mph? : 我看这儿10岁的 state championship game 也没有80 mph , 能有40,50就很不错了。 : 当然,我对速度的估算可能也不准。 : [在 hl3515 (土人) 的大作中提到:] : :你的孩子正反手form都还不错,但都是限于站着打,我的观察是一跑起来就完全不行了. : :其实网球腿比手重要,这点大部分人都意识不到.好的网球选手一定会是好的athlete. : :...........
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 36 USTA 9 岁组 就必须上手发球 .
发球是重要,教练教我女儿现在就是搔背,直扑, 非常简单,没有任何花哨的动作, 然
后反手 cross court。 比赛的时候,非常管用,至少这个级别.
我上次在球场看到一位 老中 教他的女儿 (估计10岁) 发球,一整套 的动作, 虽然小
孩子很不错,但是特别挫折,我看她一脸的不高兴。
80MPH
【在 h****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的孩子正反手form都还不错,但都是限于站着打,我的观察是一跑起来就完全不行了. : 其实网球腿比手重要,这点大部分人都意识不到.好的网球选手一定会是好的athlete. : 发球是最重要的技术,一定要早练,越早越好.有些八九岁的女孩发球速度能到将近80MPH : .你儿子这个年级还不开始,过几年打比赛会有大麻烦. : 话糙理不糙,不要喷我.
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 37
的确要早开始打比赛,除了有的东西必须在比赛中学习锻炼外,从小习惯输球不当回事
非常重要。 再说一开始打总是输的。 十岁以后的比赛,大部分娃已经身经百战了,新
手基本是吃蛋吃油条。 要十岁后才打比赛,self-conciousness比较清晰,这么被虐几
次就不愿再打了。
wawabaobao 你是在德州么? 哪儿?
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : USTA 9 岁组 就必须上手发球 . : 发球是重要,教练教我女儿现在就是搔背,直扑, 非常简单,没有任何花哨的动作, 然 : 后反手 cross court。 比赛的时候,非常管用,至少这个级别. : 我上次在球场看到一位 老中 教他的女儿 (估计10岁) 发球,一整套 的动作, 虽然小 : 孩子很不错,但是特别挫折,我看她一脸的不高兴。 : : 80MPH
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 38 上次 areyoueye 过来, 结果估计被你拉去 allen 打球了,放我鸽子。
我在 plano.
你这个 self-conciousness 说的太对了,我就一直教育我小孩,it is ok to lose.
打球心理太重要。
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 的确要早开始打比赛,除了有的东西必须在比赛中学习锻炼外,从小习惯输球不当回事 : 非常重要。 再说一开始打总是输的。 十岁以后的比赛,大部分娃已经身经百战了,新 : 手基本是吃蛋吃油条。 要十岁后才打比赛,self-conciousness比较清晰,这么被虐几 : 次就不愿再打了。 : wawabaobao 你是在德州么? 哪儿?
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 39
areyoueye来每天都在plano senior high混啊。 我手腕痛没法陪他打。另一位球友和
他打了。 你没出来接客嘛。
你上头说的教娃的老中,咋像是我啊。 LOL,教娃真是个受罪的活儿。
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上次 areyoueye 过来, 结果估计被你拉去 allen 打球了,放我鸽子。 : 我在 plano. : 你这个 self-conciousness 说的太对了,我就一直教育我小孩,it is ok to lose. : 打球心理太重要。
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 40 呵呵,是不是 high point 那天? 你带两个丫头? 她们很不错,就是不太高兴。呵呵.
我的观点是 千万不要 教自己老婆和小孩打球,两头受气. 出钱找教练是王道. 她们的
教练( 也是我的教练) 是 USTA 4.0 - 4.5+ 的trainer Victor. 非常棒的教练
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : areyoueye来每天都在plano senior high混啊。 我手腕痛没法陪他打。另一位球友和 : 他打了。 你没出来接客嘛。 : 你上头说的教娃的老中,咋像是我啊。 LOL,教娃真是个受罪的活儿。
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 41
应该是。呵呵。教练也有。但有的东西,不黑下脸来,真的学不进去。
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 呵呵,是不是 high point 那天? 你带两个丫头? 她们很不错,就是不太高兴。呵呵. : 我的观点是 千万不要 教自己老婆和小孩打球,两头受气. 出钱找教练是王道. 她们的 : 教练( 也是我的教练) 是 USTA 4.0 - 4.5+ 的trainer Victor. 非常棒的教练
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 42 JTT U12 以下 是闹着玩的,我女儿就在 JTT, , 主要是增加比赛经验 和 自信心.
我说的那个 应该是个人,是我小孩教练的另一个学生 boy 10 yrs old, white,身体
素质觉得一般,但是球感超好,他上个月差点进 regional champion 了。如果U10有像
你说的 80mph 的发球,那他发球就太弱了。
【在 h****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : top 5 national : 你说的state championship是JTT的? Team tennis是比较低水平的比赛.好的只打个人 : 比赛吧. : : 了. : athlete.
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F*****o 发帖数: 4012 | 43 都在说好。咳!
给你小孩一点正手建议。
你的小孩正手:
球在飞 -> 快速转到位 -> 等 -> 等 -> 球落地弹起 -> 挥拍打。
俺的建议:
球在飞 -> 慢慢转 -> 慢慢转 -> 球落地 -> 转到位 -> 球弹起 -> 略微下蹲 -> 挥拍打
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You are absolutely right. I'll try these little by little. : He's not talented, and not a smart player either. I'd give him whatever I : can offer, having Tennis as good bonding and good exercise. But I know from : my heart I can't have much expectation on him. : : 80MPH
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l*****n 发帖数: 41 | 44 赞xbd 心态。 也基本客观。 你孩子的问题是不太smooth.
其实大部分小孩等到一定年龄就quit la. as long as kid is having fun , that is
enough. I saw some parents push their kids in young age, does not do any
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 45 我喜欢你的评论,客观直接,一针见血。
我告诉他的是早转慢转,但是他体会不到那种随球转的节奏感,为了不击球晚,就变成
了早转快转,导致动力链的断档。我当过小孩子足球篮球棒球网球的教练,就为了能在
场上监督他。结果我发现孩子最重要的素质其实是那种自我推动的能力,就是自己想要
变好,去想怎么进步。很可惜我儿子没有这个素质,至少现在没有。我说什么他都认真
作,但是他只是认真作,从没想过自己怎么能作好,就比如这个backswing的节奏感,
只有自己体会一种办法去学。
你不妨评论以下我的问题吧,特别是反手,为什么是花架子?看着我自己觉得没什么毛
病,打起来就没有控制,能用的基本只有挡球这一着。
拍打
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 都在说好。咳! : 给你小孩一点正手建议。 : 你的小孩正手: : 球在飞 -> 快速转到位 -> 等 -> 等 -> 球落地弹起 -> 挥拍打。 : 俺的建议: : 球在飞 -> 慢慢转 -> 慢慢转 -> 球落地 -> 转到位 -> 球弹起 -> 略微下蹲 -> 挥拍打
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 46 he's not smooth because everything was tuned by me, not himself. I can never
make another person at his best, only he himself can. I hope he can.
is
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞xbd 心态。 也基本客观。 你孩子的问题是不太smooth. : 其实大部分小孩等到一定年龄就quit la. as long as kid is having fun , that is : enough. I saw some parents push their kids in young age, does not do any : good to the kids.
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h****5 发帖数: 174 | 47 又查了一下,75MPH,9岁2个月.不过是playsight显示的,不知道准不准啊.8岁半就脱离10
岁组了.
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : JTT U12 以下 是闹着玩的,我女儿就在 JTT, , 主要是增加比赛经验 和 自信心. : 我说的那个 应该是个人,是我小孩教练的另一个学生 boy 10 yrs old, white,身体 : 素质觉得一般,但是球感超好,他上个月差点进 regional champion 了。如果U10有像 : 你说的 80mph 的发球,那他发球就太弱了。
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l*****n 发帖数: 41 | 48 Haha. that's very normal for kids. I think, for parents like us, we should
learn to relax and give up. After I do not care how my kid play tennis, my
life becomes much more enjoyable. I do not need to spend hours on court with
him. I can watch some show and have more rest.
As to your kid, my personal opinion, his backhand is good, having good unit
turn , then uncoil.
his forehand, to me, it is more of weight transfer issue, then is due to the
footwork. his backhand has the same issue. kid does not need to hit hard,
just make sure have the right footwork, set the foot, coil and uncoil
naturally.
right footwork will give the right spacing so he can naturally swing the
racket to the contact.
never
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : he's not smooth because everything was tuned by me, not himself. I can never : make another person at his best, only he himself can. I hope he can. : : is
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 49 9岁发75绝对是有天赋在起作用了,就跟李司机似的,靠学习本身到不了这个高度。
10
【在 h****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 又查了一下,75MPH,9岁2个月.不过是playsight显示的,不知道准不准啊.8岁半就脱离10 : 岁组了.
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 50 well said. Thanks. now it's really time to work on footwork.
with
unit
the
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Haha. that's very normal for kids. I think, for parents like us, we should : learn to relax and give up. After I do not care how my kid play tennis, my : life becomes much more enjoyable. I do not need to spend hours on court with : him. I can watch some show and have more rest. : As to your kid, my personal opinion, his backhand is good, having good unit : turn , then uncoil. : his forehand, to me, it is more of weight transfer issue, then is due to the : footwork. his backhand has the same issue. kid does not need to hit hard, : just make sure have the right footwork, set the foot, coil and uncoil : naturally.
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F*****o 发帖数: 4012 | 51 你要是双反的话,俺还可以看一看,说不定能提点意见。单反的话,就算了。俺自己也
打不好。
你要小孩子自己去想的话,你的要求太高啦。
你只要对你小孩说,正手的 setup ,是慢的,不能有停顿的,挥拍的时候是快的。必须
有两种速度,就可以了。他能改过来的。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我喜欢你的评论,客观直接,一针见血。 : 我告诉他的是早转慢转,但是他体会不到那种随球转的节奏感,为了不击球晚,就变成 : 了早转快转,导致动力链的断档。我当过小孩子足球篮球棒球网球的教练,就为了能在 : 场上监督他。结果我发现孩子最重要的素质其实是那种自我推动的能力,就是自己想要 : 变好,去想怎么进步。很可惜我儿子没有这个素质,至少现在没有。我说什么他都认真 : 作,但是他只是认真作,从没想过自己怎么能作好,就比如这个backswing的节奏感, : 只有自己体会一种办法去学。 : 你不妨评论以下我的问题吧,特别是反手,为什么是花架子?看着我自己觉得没什么毛 : 病,打起来就没有控制,能用的基本只有挡球这一着。 :
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 52 好建议,我试试。
其实真的有和他一样年纪小孩子有自我推动力的,带团体运动你会发现很多,而且东亚
小男孩普遍心理晚熟,不光和家庭教育有关,跟基因肯定是有关系的。
必须
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你要是双反的话,俺还可以看一看,说不定能提点意见。单反的话,就算了。俺自己也 : 打不好。 : 你要小孩子自己去想的话,你的要求太高啦。 : 你只要对你小孩说,正手的 setup ,是慢的,不能有停顿的,挥拍的时候是快的。必须 : 有两种速度,就可以了。他能改过来的。
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m****n 发帖数: 1066 | 53 小男孩普遍心理晚熟。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好建议,我试试。 : 其实真的有和他一样年纪小孩子有自我推动力的,带团体运动你会发现很多,而且东亚 : 小男孩普遍心理晚熟,不光和家庭教育有关,跟基因肯定是有关系的。 : : 必须
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 54 这个不是男孩比女孩晚的问题。是东亚(中日韩)男孩比白人黑人晚的问题,而且不是
身体的晚,是心理的晚。我帮着教过几种团体体育,带过超过50的男孩子。
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 小男孩普遍心理晚熟。
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m****n 发帖数: 1066 | 55 这50个男孩中有多少亚裔?
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个不是男孩比女孩晚的问题。是东亚(中日韩)男孩比白人黑人晚的问题,而且不是 : 身体的晚,是心理的晚。我帮着教过几种团体体育,带过超过50的男孩子。
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 56 my town has many asians.
last year's basketball team #1 has 4 whites, 1 spanish, 2 korean, 2 chinese,
1 probable south asia. I was coach so I picked more asians.
last year's basketball team #2 has about 5 whites, 2 indian, 2 chinese, 1
white-chinese. I was assistant.
this year's basketball team has 1 white, 2 arabian, 2 spanish, 3 indian, 1
chinese. I'm coach but it's blind draft.
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这50个男孩中有多少亚裔?
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m****n 发帖数: 1066 | 57 这么多亚裔?
我们今年U8 academy soccer league. 这个赛季踢了大约15场比赛,只见过三个东亚裔
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 58 I couldn't recall earlier teams. There were more kids from Asia.
I feel a little bit upset because I saw the boys from east Asia have
different mental growth curve, slower start but bigger potential. However
they have to handle the social pressure same as the boys from other races.
Of course there are also great Chinese kids. Last year's league's best
player was probably a Chinese from another team, not only physically but
mentally the best. But he was so
much beyond the average of other Asian boys.
I plan to enroll my son to a private school later and downgrade once.
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么多亚裔? : 我们今年U8 academy soccer league. 这个赛季踢了大约15场比赛,只见过三个东亚裔 : ,包括我儿子在内。而且水平一般。
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 59 Rutgers indoor courts?
看上去Xbd挥拍转体比 Eric流畅 。可能就是打得时间多些。
小朋友要做的事太多没时间打球吧。。 感觉不是很enjoy,
像是在努力的样子。。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I couldn't recall earlier teams. There were more kids from Asia. : I feel a little bit upset because I saw the boys from east Asia have : different mental growth curve, slower start but bigger potential. However : they have to handle the social pressure same as the boys from other races. : Of course there are also great Chinese kids. Last year's league's best : player was probably a Chinese from another team, not only physically but : mentally the best. But he was so : much beyond the average of other Asian boys. : I plan to enroll my son to a private school later and downgrade once.
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 60 Brunswick hill upstair court. Their ball machine is good.
His stokes are all flower-frames, looking fine but without much usefulness
at game, just like my backhand :)
【在 N*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Rutgers indoor courts? : 看上去Xbd挥拍转体比 Eric流畅 。可能就是打得时间多些。 : 小朋友要做的事太多没时间打球吧。。 感觉不是很enjoy, : 像是在努力的样子。。
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 61 一个很好的科研命题。。 可以研究对照一下那些非亚裔家庭领养的中国儿童的发展情
况。。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好建议,我试试。 : 其实真的有和他一样年纪小孩子有自我推动力的,带团体运动你会发现很多,而且东亚 : 小男孩普遍心理晚熟,不光和家庭教育有关,跟基因肯定是有关系的。 : : 必须
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 62 看着也像是 肩和髋同时转, 腰上没有用上力。 就像我发球的主要问题类似。
对照着, 你转肩击球时, 髋部回转就慢,用上了腰力。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Brunswick hill upstair court. Their ball machine is good. : His stokes are all flower-frames, looking fine but without much usefulness : at game, just like my backhand :)
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 63 Most adopted Chinese are girls. My former colleague adopted a Chinese boy,
but the boy has genetic disease. I haven't met any other adopted boy, so it'
s a very difficult project, needs grant from your Wall st :)
【在 N*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一个很好的科研命题。。 可以研究对照一下那些非亚裔家庭领养的中国儿童的发展情 : 况。。
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 64 very good observation, I didn't see that.
【在 N*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看着也像是 肩和髋同时转, 腰上没有用上力。 就像我发球的主要问题类似。 : 对照着, 你转肩击球时, 髋部回转就慢,用上了腰力。
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 65 What's the differences between girl and boy here? Girls tend to be more
self-aware and less prone to this hypothesized DNA-caused immaturity?
Or more/less influenced the some education/family environments?
I paid taxes with no delays; you should lobby to DC, or Trenton, to grab
my tax dollars into your research grant :|
it'
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Most adopted Chinese are girls. My former colleague adopted a Chinese boy, : but the boy has genetic disease. I haven't met any other adopted boy, so it' : s a very difficult project, needs grant from your Wall st :)
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 66 看过对我发球录像的反馈,为什么右脚转太早,发现好多人都有类似问题。
比如linhuchong 发球说没有力量也是没有这个躯干的twist, 身体正面全部打开了。
现在我觉得 从准备backswiming到击球之间肩膀转有90度左右吧。 在这区间, 肚脐眼
(髋部中间)对的方向 要基本不变(《30度)。 这个肚脐眼理论怎么样?
看你的正手, 肚脐眼一直对着观众。
击球过程中, Eric的肚脐眼方向变化超过了90度。 也就是说, 腹肌没有多参与。
随便说说。 还在想。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : very good observation, I didn't see that.
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 67 I'm at open stance. He's at somewhere between semi-open and close. Right now
he can't hit at open stance because it requires great power from waist and
wrist. He doesn't have that power and it may cause injury.
You are right that he should turn his body in an order from feet to hip to
shoulder to arm. He doesn't have obvious order between hip and shoulder,
probably due to the lack of strength from waist. I'll see if he's strong
enough to try your suggestion.
【在 N*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看过对我发球录像的反馈,为什么右脚转太早,发现好多人都有类似问题。 : 比如linhuchong 发球说没有力量也是没有这个躯干的twist, 身体正面全部打开了。 : 现在我觉得 从准备backswiming到击球之间肩膀转有90度左右吧。 在这区间, 肚脐眼 : (髋部中间)对的方向 要基本不变(《30度)。 这个肚脐眼理论怎么样? : 看你的正手, 肚脐眼一直对着观众。 : 击球过程中, Eric的肚脐眼方向变化超过了90度。 也就是说, 腹肌没有多参与。 : 随便说说。 还在想。
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l********g 发帖数: 677 | 68 我发球没有力量主要是两方面的原因:(1)球抛得离身体太近,以致击球时got jamed
;(2)racquet drop 做得不到位。自从上次得到黑岛的指点后,现在已经好得多了,
只是还要经过很长时间的练习去找到最适合自己的击球方式了
【在 N*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看过对我发球录像的反馈,为什么右脚转太早,发现好多人都有类似问题。 : 比如linhuchong 发球说没有力量也是没有这个躯干的twist, 身体正面全部打开了。 : 现在我觉得 从准备backswiming到击球之间肩膀转有90度左右吧。 在这区间, 肚脐眼 : (髋部中间)对的方向 要基本不变(《30度)。 这个肚脐眼理论怎么样? : 看你的正手, 肚脐眼一直对着观众。 : 击球过程中, Eric的肚脐眼方向变化超过了90度。 也就是说, 腹肌没有多参与。 : 随便说说。 还在想。
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n**u 发帖数: 768 | 69 Your backhand would be more effective if you hit more dtl.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Brunswick hill upstair court. Their ball machine is good. : His stokes are all flower-frames, looking fine but without much usefulness : at game, just like my backhand :)
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N*****7 发帖数: 1899 | 70 我觉得可以慢慢告诉小孩这些观察, 一下子列出来九岁小孩也许不能process all the
information and prioritize, and handle in order. He might be overwhelmed,
and frustrated. It might still be necessary to build the positive feedback
loop, for a young kid, who tries to do things correctly. At least I think,
he should find tennis just as something too hard, but also find fun with it.
It takes probably month and years to do something "correctly"; it may not
come at all。 Most likely, a small child does not find this process
appealing. For instance, I do not.
Even for an adult, to use core muscle is hard. For example, it is easy for
me to tell, but not easy all to apply to myself.
Most recreational tennis did not do it "right"... we had fun whatever D
另一方面,我隐约感觉认识腹肌等的运用很有好处。
不单单是对网球或者是体育运动有关。
重要的是能全身运动,提高脊椎柔韧性, for a strong and flexible spinal cord,
能出汗, 锻炼心肺功能, 促进身体健康 D
小孩养成这些习惯, 等他成年时事情多没时间 有帮助 -- 各种活动都容易上手
(大部分工作都是坐着不怎么动的很伤身体)。
我会让自家小孩小时玩玩体操舞蹈, 拉拉韧带, 将来身体姿势好,其他啥活动动可以
玩玩。 小孩能接受有兴趣的时候值得多说几遍重复这些枯燥的core muscle warm-up,
不论做的好坏。
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【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm at open stance. He's at somewhere between semi-open and close. Right now : he can't hit at open stance because it requires great power from waist and : wrist. He doesn't have that power and it may cause injury. : You are right that he should turn his body in an order from feet to hip to : shoulder to arm. He doesn't have obvious order between hip and shoulder, : probably due to the lack of strength from waist. I'll see if he's strong : enough to try your suggestion.
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 71
now he can't hit at open stance because it requires great power from waist
and wrist.
It's why most of the coaches who are experienced in teaching young kids
suggest to start with close stance, or whatever you call the stance with one
foot front the other back so the line between the two feet are roughly
perpendicular to the baseline. This stance lets you transfer weight forward
when unload, which is easier for kids to grasp because you shift your
weight TOWARDS where the ball goes. Open stance is a rotary unload, you
shift weight from one side to the other and literally "spin" your body.
much harder to relate this move to sending the ball straight forward.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm at open stance. He's at somewhere between semi-open and close. Right now : he can't hit at open stance because it requires great power from waist and : wrist. He doesn't have that power and it may cause injury. : You are right that he should turn his body in an order from feet to hip to : shoulder to arm. He doesn't have obvious order between hip and shoulder, : probably due to the lack of strength from waist. I'll see if he's strong : enough to try your suggestion.
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 72 打过棒球的人都知道,pitcher 扔球的时候,要肩膀先出去,带动手臂。
这个说起来容易而已。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : very good observation, I didn't see that.
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w********o 发帖数: 1231 | 73 还是一句话,大部分小孩最后放弃的原因不是技术, 都是 frustration 和 lose
interest.
在缺乏强大的兴趣之前, 还是少点技术, 降低难度,让小孩打打最简单的 红球和 桔
球,体会到乐趣先。
我花了整整快一年,才培养起我小孩的兴趣和自信心,现在都是 非常小心的呵护. |
x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 74 you missed the point. His kinetic disconnection is not at there.
【在 w********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打过棒球的人都知道,pitcher 扔球的时候,要肩膀先出去,带动手臂。 : 这个说起来容易而已。
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