h******n
发帖数: 734 | |
w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 2 over all, pretty good in a relaxed setting. Keep the foot dancing.
Since it was not a drill, don't want to say too much. Just keep your eye on
the ball til contact to your racquet.
outfit looks good, too.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/JRm-_1U7eCo
: 求拍砖。
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 3 thanks biggest problem(most important areas for improvement) for me 1
footwork 2 watch ball better
on
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: over all, pretty good in a relaxed setting. Keep the foot dancing.
: Since it was not a drill, don't want to say too much. Just keep your eye on
: the ball til contact to your racquet.
: outfit looks good, too.
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d******e
发帖数: 2541 | 4 很轻松优雅嘛。
让你传话，得到削货回音了吗？我11月下去博士屯开会，找抽呢，结果P也没见有GUTS
的萎缩男放一个。。。。。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/JRm-_1U7eCo
: 求拍砖。
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 5 呵呵 动作派吗 不管用的 你跟slice和解算了。。。。。。
GUTS
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 很轻松优雅嘛。
: 让你传话，得到削货回音了吗？我11月下去博士屯开会，找抽呢，结果P也没见有GUTS
: 的萎缩男放一个。。。。。
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 6 动作派，应该演示的项目：
正手 ground stroke；
反手 ground stroke；
正手削；
反手削；
正手volley；
反手volley；
发球；
高压；
...
你这个缺了好多，不全啊。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/JRm-_1U7eCo
: 求拍砖。
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 7 必须的 but not here because didn't get many bricks
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】
: 动作派，应该演示的项目：
: 正手 ground stroke；
: 反手 ground stroke；
: 正手削；
: 反手削；
: 正手volley；
: 反手volley；
: 发球；
: 高压；
: ...
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 8 对拉看不出什么的。
你要奔 game，才能看出点东西啊。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 必须的 but not here because didn't get many bricks
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 9 fair point. to be continued.
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】
: 对拉看不出什么的。
: 你要奔 game，才能看出点东西啊。
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 10 If I remember it right, you need to practice drop shots, haha...
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 必须的 but not here because didn't get many bricks
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 11 good point, i'll ben some points i am killed by drop shots.please help me
with that.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: If I remember it right, you need to practice drop shots, haha...
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 12 never practiced drop shot but i should. I am more
interested in getting to the drop shot my opponents give me.
http://youtu.be/pAf9gs9feyM far side
http://youtu.be/DfkBudBKtd0 near side
to be continued..
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: If I remember it right, you need to practice drop shots, haha...
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 13 I don't see any drop shot from this video. Wrong link? |
h******n
发帖数: 734 | 14 just checked links. both shots I was not able to return to the drop shot.
just two random samples out of a ton of drop shots I fail to return...
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't see any drop shot from this video. Wrong link?
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 15 第一个被winner很正常，放得太好。
第二个你碰到了没过网就不对了。下次多捞一点，首先得确保过网。
另外冬天被dropshot很正常。夏天应该好点。等0度以下一半的winner都是dropshot.
解法就是你也放他几个。你跑得比他快，看谁受不了谁。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: just checked links. both shots I was not able to return to the drop shot.
: just two random samples out of a ton of drop shots I fail to return...
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 16 maybe i just practice 25 yards sprint? lol
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 第一个被winner很正常，放得太好。
: 第二个你碰到了没过网就不对了。下次多捞一点，首先得确保过网。
: 另外冬天被dropshot很正常。夏天应该好点。等0度以下一半的winner都是dropshot.
: 解法就是你也放他几个。你跑得比他快，看谁受不了谁。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 偶觉得你比对手跑得快的前提下就不要再追求速度了。要做到只要能碰到球，就
能搞过网。至于方向、高低另谈。冬天欧觉得还是尽量别追求kill dropshot了，
悠着点。
冬天室外本来就很适合削球手。偶有时一场比赛可以削出很多winners. 尤其是
用1个月的老球。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: maybe i just practice 25 yards sprint? lol
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 18 seem the near side video has one at the end.
The goal for drop shot is to surprise the opponent and make it hard/
impossible to return. To react to the drop shot, anticipation is the key.
When given your op. a short and high ball while you are at the baseline, you
have to be thinking there is a fairly good chance a drop shot may be coming
. If he/she does not need the move around a lot the reach the short/high
ball, the chance increases a lot more. If you know he/she does a decent drop
shot, you need to be ready for it.
Dealing with drop shot is a probability game. Your op. has to feel
comfortable doing it, and you have to give the opportunity. Pros don't do it
a lot. This says a lot about this shot.
If you have quick legs and can manage not to give your op. short and high
balls, you've done your part. Drop shot from baseline is a risky business
that not too many people are willing to do it.
Who is more experienced dealing with drop shot here? Come out and share your
thoughts/experience.
I like to and do a lot drop shot. #1 爽 shot for me. Success rate? another
story, haha.. You understand.
费话了很多。Please don't mind. |
h******n
发帖数: 734 | 19 Thanks, make lot of sense to me.
the far side has a drop shot at the end, the shot was blocked in the video
by my opponent.
failing to get a drop shot is like miss a overhead, kills confidence a lot.
you
coming
drop
it
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: seem the near side video has one at the end.
: The goal for drop shot is to surprise the opponent and make it hard/
: impossible to return. To react to the drop shot, anticipation is the key.
: When given your op. a short and high ball while you are at the baseline, you
: have to be thinking there is a fairly good chance a drop shot may be coming
: . If he/she does not need the move around a lot the reach the short/high
: ball, the chance increases a lot more. If you know he/she does a decent drop
: shot, you need to be ready for it.
: Dealing with drop shot is a probability game. Your op. has to feel
: comfortable doing it, and you have to give the opportunity. Pros don't do it
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 20 never thought about the temperature thing, now it makes sense to me, maybe
that's why whenever I play a match with used balls I feel a drop in my game.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶觉得你比对手跑得快的前提下就不要再追求速度了。要做到只要能碰到球，就
: 能搞过网。至于方向、高低另谈。冬天欧觉得还是尽量别追求kill dropshot了，
: 悠着点。
: 冬天室外本来就很适合削球手。偶有时一场比赛可以削出很多winners. 尤其是
: 用1个月的老球。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 年纪大了对付dropshot基本没辙，以前够得着的现在就差那么一点。
唯一可以改进的是anticipation。这个完全是mind game. 比如偶这里的老油条，
每次单打都要被他放死。后来偶只好通过观察他的习惯，赌博什么情况下他会放，
提前往前冲。但这个也是互相牵制的，对手如果outsmart你，就会故意装作
要dropshot然后勾引你上no man's land然后轻松winner.
所以最佳方案还是别被放。但是太难了，尤其是对手比你强的话。
还有一招就是冬天拒绝和老油条打室外。他们几乎必然offer用旧球比赛。
you
coming
drop
it
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: seem the near side video has one at the end.
: The goal for drop shot is to surprise the opponent and make it hard/
: impossible to return. To react to the drop shot, anticipation is the key.
: When given your op. a short and high ball while you are at the baseline, you
: have to be thinking there is a fairly good chance a drop shot may be coming
: . If he/she does not need the move around a lot the reach the short/high
: ball, the chance increases a lot more. If you know he/she does a decent drop
: shot, you need to be ready for it.
: Dealing with drop shot is a probability game. Your op. has to feel
: comfortable doing it, and you have to give the opportunity. Pros don't do it
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 看来这个可以用来推测动作派还是ws派。
偶一到冬天就觉得水平明显提高, winner一堆。对方则全是UE.
game.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: never thought about the temperature thing, now it makes sense to me, maybe
: that's why whenever I play a match with used balls I feel a drop in my game.
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 23 Don't feel that way.
Missing an overhead is no excuse. Not able to get to a drop shot? Don't be
too hard on yourself. Every top 10 player in ATP has done this to their
opponents and have been dropped by them also, even FF, Nadal.
Quick legs save the day in the end. If you are able to get to the ball more
often, your op. confidence has to be shaken.
I thought the end of the far side video was a slice and not the drop shot.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, make lot of sense to me.
: the far side has a drop shot at the end, the shot was blocked in the video
: by my opponent.
: failing to get a drop shot is like miss a overhead, kills confidence a lot.
:
: you
: coming
: drop
: it
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 24 用1个月的老球?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶觉得你比对手跑得快的前提下就不要再追求速度了。要做到只要能碰到球，就
: 能搞过网。至于方向、高低另谈。冬天欧觉得还是尽量别追求kill dropshot了，
: 悠着点。
: 冬天室外本来就很适合削球手。偶有时一场比赛可以削出很多winners. 尤其是
: 用1个月的老球。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 25 偶miss an overhead感觉好多了，对于偶没miss才是非正常现象。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, make lot of sense to me.
: the far side has a drop shot at the end, the shot was blocked in the video
: by my opponent.
: failing to get a drop shot is like miss a overhead, kills confidence a lot.
:
: you
: coming
: drop
: it
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 冬天偶们这里一直下雨，舍不得用新球。有一次刚开了一罐新的，warmup了5分钟
就下雨了，只好等了两周，继续用那3个球打完了比赛。好在还有气。
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 用1个月的老球?
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 27 lol i meant both easy overhead and easy drop shot. missing a deep stretching
overhead or a really good drop shot is clapping hands for the opponent.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶miss an overhead感觉好多了，对于偶没miss才是非正常现象。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 28 How can you miss easy drop shot? Neither was easy in your videos.
Easy dropshot == sitter? 偶最喜欢sitter，有一场比赛对手放了无数sitter,
很多还是故意的，draw me to the net, 被偶一一winner之，太爽了。很奇怪
对手为啥就不知道调整.
stretching
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: lol i meant both easy overhead and easy drop shot. missing a deep stretching
: overhead or a really good drop shot is clapping hands for the opponent.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 29 easy drop shots are those I think i really should have got.
maybe it is my footwork when the opponent executes the drop shot is not good
. Lol i like attribute all my problems to footwork and fitness.
yes as i think abt it, i seem to miss most drop shots in the net if i got
them on my racket.
sitters are another big problem for me. videos to follow...
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How can you miss easy drop shot? Neither was easy in your videos.
: Easy dropshot == sitter? 偶最喜欢sitter，有一场比赛对手放了无数sitter,
: 很多还是故意的，draw me to the net, 被偶一一winner之，太爽了。很奇怪
: 对手为啥就不知道调整.
:
: stretching
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 30 how to finish sitters:
a drop shot, a sitter, another sitter,a lob.
http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk
i missed a drop shot and a sitter and lost that service game. |
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c**********8
发帖数: 35 | 31
应该是习惯问题吧.回drop shot下网的,你发球后双脚已经落在场内了,就不用再退回到
场外split step.留在原地split step,看清对手回球再动也不迟,那么这一个drop shot
就有时间空间去回了. sitter的弹得比网高,你却往上刷,当然容易出界了.应该趁着回
球高,对着球的中上部平刷.当然能平击杀球就更爽啦:)
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: how to finish sitters:
: a drop shot, a sitter, another sitter,a lob.
: http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk
: i missed a drop shot and a sitter and lost that service game.
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l*****4
发帖数: 150 | 32 .... interesting concept...
first one is an unintentional drop, i think he was just trying to slice,
maybe trying to do a short slice.
2nd one is more of drop with intention.
i prefer to focus on how to prevent opponent from hitting a dropshot instead
of
how to better retrieve like a "dog". :P lol
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: never practiced drop shot but i should. I am more
: interested in getting to the drop shot my opponents give me.
: http://youtu.be/pAf9gs9feyM far side
: http://youtu.be/DfkBudBKtd0 near side
: to be continued..
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 33 不错不错。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: how to finish sitters:
: a drop shot, a sitter, another sitter,a lob.
: http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk
: i missed a drop shot and a sitter and lost that service game.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 34 砖头呢？ more brick more future ben lol
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】
: 不错不错。
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 35 http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk far side.
Downloaded the video and reviewed at slow motion. You didn't contact the
ball at the center of your racquet. Keep your eye on the ball and not the
net, I guess. This is a problem for a lot of people.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 砖头呢？ more brick more future ben lol
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 36 我对这种sitter感情上十分纠结，甚至害怕，不是所有都打丢，但是相当一部分下网或
出界。。。
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk far side.
: Downloaded the video and reviewed at slow motion. You didn't contact the
: ball at the center of your racquet. Keep your eye on the ball and not the
: net, I guess. This is a problem for a lot of people.
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C******1
发帖数: 2 | 37 0:38 的攻击，有问题。
这个球，应该落在发球区内，而不是底线。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 砖头呢？ more brick more future ben lol
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 38 http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk?t=30s
就是打丢的那个短球。。你是说我应该给他drop shot?
yes just realized he is so far back... terrible choice from me.
【在 C******1 的大作中提到】
: 0:38 的攻击，有问题。
: 这个球，应该落在发球区内，而不是底线。
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 39 不是，看你自己打的 0:25 的那个球，就是好球。
0:38，只是打另外的方向。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk?t=30s
: 就是打丢的那个短球。。你是说我应该给他drop shot?
: yes just realized he is so far back... terrible choice from me.
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 40 Noticed that your serve in the video is not intimidating. The guy just stood
up to receive your serve. Do you have the coach?
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/MiYkyoXdvwk?t=30s
: 就是打丢的那个短球。。你是说我应该给他drop shot?
: yes just realized he is so far back... terrible choice from me.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 41 i think i return better than serve. my serve is always broken in matches.
but when I break more than being broken i win the match.
no my coach is you guys :)
of course i'll post more videos so you guys can coach me better
stood
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: Noticed that your serve in the video is not intimidating. The guy just stood
: up to receive your serve. Do you have the coach?
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 42 overhead 很烂的一不小心就被躺枪了,哎
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, make lot of sense to me.
: the far side has a drop shot at the end, the shot was blocked in the video
: by my opponent.
: failing to get a drop shot is like miss a overhead, kills confidence a lot.
:
: you
: coming
: drop
: it
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 43 奔几个？
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: i think i return better than serve. my serve is always broken in matches.
: but when I break more than being broken i win the match.
: no my coach is you guys :)
: of course i'll post more videos so you guys can coach me better
:
: stood
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 44 return game:
my ROS is better than my serve, unfortunately hard to find fast serves to
practice ROS.
http://youtu.be/gzEdT_4V0q8
lost return game because can't deal with short balls.
大神们: i really need learn how to handle short balls better.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 奔几个？
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 45 chipmonks888:
good observation! this will help.
luyun14:
good point, also mentioned by blacklodoss. but i think the ability to run
down every ball will deter opponent to use drop shot. and sometimes if I get
the drop shot and hit a drop volley it ends up a winner
Thanks. |
w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 46 footwork, footwork, and footwork. reading, reading, reading, prep, prep,
prep. look at the ball, look at ball, look at the ball. Sounds boring?
The few short ball misses you have all attributed to your prep before the
shot.
The first one, when you run up to the ball, if you turn you body slightly,
open your shoulder, you can hit and follow through. The way you end it up
hitting it and stop in the middle of motion.Or, you can choose to chop that
ball since you seem to "over ran" it slightly?
Second one you didn't even stop. Your momentum carried the ball so you hit
it long. Don't panic, make a good shot. Treat it as practice. You will get
better.
Third is the same. Look at your ball and racquet when you slice.
Last volley? chop it, kill it, turn your shoulder, just kill!
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: return game:
: my ROS is better than my serve, unfortunately hard to find fast serves to
: practice ROS.
: http://youtu.be/gzEdT_4V0q8
: lost return game because can't deal with short balls.
: 大神们: i really need learn how to handle short balls better.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 47 Thanks, all of the three short balls would probably be killed by a good net
player. but ended up 3 errors for me. lots of work to do.
that
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: footwork, footwork, and footwork. reading, reading, reading, prep, prep,
: prep. look at the ball, look at ball, look at the ball. Sounds boring?
: The few short ball misses you have all attributed to your prep before the
: shot.
: The first one, when you run up to the ball, if you turn you body slightly,
: open your shoulder, you can hit and follow through. The way you end it up
: hitting it and stop in the middle of motion.Or, you can choose to chop that
: ball since you seem to "over ran" it slightly?
: Second one you didn't even stop. Your momentum carried the ball so you hit
: it long. Don't panic, make a good shot. Treat it as practice. You will get
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