M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 1 关于follow through, 想拿出来跟大家讨论讨论。post 了不少我儿子的录像，为了是
看看网版高手们的看法，看看和教练的看法是不是一致。so far so good，网版高手们
分析的基本和他教练说得差不多. 唯一一个不一致的地方就是follow through. 这里大
家一致认为要过肩，然而教练从来没有强调要他过肩，到elbow就可以。以下两个pro
似乎也只是到elbow，越年轻的越是这样。大家要不要讨论讨论。
http://youtu.be/TO--9sXSJas
http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0 | M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 2 Also, I am thinking over-the-shoulder-follow-through makes no sense on some
types of shots. For example, my son's doing windscreen wiper (more spin
intention), it is low-high-low, no way the follow through will be over the
shoulder. I think it should be a consequences of intention through contact,
right?
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 关于follow through, 想拿出来跟大家讨论讨论。post 了不少我儿子的录像，为了是
: 看看网版高手们的看法，看看和教练的看法是不是一致。so far so good，网版高手们
: 分析的基本和他教练说得差不多. 唯一一个不一致的地方就是follow through. 这里大
: 家一致认为要过肩，然而教练从来没有强调要他过肩，到elbow就可以。以下两个pro
: 似乎也只是到elbow，越年轻的越是这样。大家要不要讨论讨论。
: http://youtu.be/TO--9sXSJas
: http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0
| b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 3 K is more of windshield wiper, you'll notice his hand is about shoulder high
during the mid of wipe (after the contact, so it is party of follow through
), on the finish it is ok to fall to elbow high.
Krygios drives a bit more, you can actually see his hand finish at his
shoulder high on many of shots. When he wipes more topspin, he finish around
elbow.
It's more about understanding the depth of the ball and follow through. The
higher you finish the easier to keep the ball deep. Lower may get you a bit
more pace. So it depends on what kind of shot you are choosing to hit.
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 关于follow through, 想拿出来跟大家讨论讨论。post 了不少我儿子的录像，为了是
: 看看网版高手们的看法，看看和教练的看法是不是一致。so far so good，网版高手们
: 分析的基本和他教练说得差不多. 唯一一个不一致的地方就是follow through. 这里大
: 家一致认为要过肩，然而教练从来没有强调要他过肩，到elbow就可以。以下两个pro
: 似乎也只是到elbow，越年轻的越是这样。大家要不要讨论讨论。
: http://youtu.be/TO--9sXSJas
: http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0
| x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 4 your son's grip and hitting is a bit unique. Normally eastern or semi-
western grip naturally goes up the left shoulder at this age because they
hit low to high and the swing path is mostly due to the arm movement, not
wrist. Most kids I see are like that.
With stronger and stronger body and wrist, eventually the swing will evolve
to the modern way of finishing for semiwestern, i.e. ending at the left.
He started from extreme-western, that way it's awkward to finish up the
shoulder.
I think the following through is just like the pronation in serve, if you
have a good shot, it goes to where it's supposed to go.
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 关于follow through, 想拿出来跟大家讨论讨论。post 了不少我儿子的录像，为了是
: 看看网版高手们的看法，看看和教练的看法是不是一致。so far so good，网版高手们
: 分析的基本和他教练说得差不多. 唯一一个不一致的地方就是follow through. 这里大
: 家一致认为要过肩，然而教练从来没有强调要他过肩，到elbow就可以。以下两个pro
: 似乎也只是到elbow，越年轻的越是这样。大家要不要讨论讨论。
: http://youtu.be/TO--9sXSJas
: http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0
| x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 5 Many kids finish up like Julia Goerges (her finish, not her shot). I think
that's natural. It's a bit strange for pro; I think Goerges either never
changed it, or meant to keep it.
high
through
around
The
bit
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: K is more of windshield wiper, you'll notice his hand is about shoulder high
: during the mid of wipe (after the contact, so it is party of follow through
: ), on the finish it is ok to fall to elbow high.
: Krygios drives a bit more, you can actually see his hand finish at his
: shoulder high on many of shots. When he wipes more topspin, he finish around
: elbow.
: It's more about understanding the depth of the ball and follow through. The
: higher you finish the easier to keep the ball deep. Lower may get you a bit
: more pace. So it depends on what kind of shot you are choosing to hit.
| M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 6 Yeah, I believe it too that if you want to wipe more top spin, it will
finish low.
high
through
around
The
bit
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: K is more of windshield wiper, you'll notice his hand is about shoulder high
: during the mid of wipe (after the contact, so it is party of follow through
: ), on the finish it is ok to fall to elbow high.
: Krygios drives a bit more, you can actually see his hand finish at his
: shoulder high on many of shots. When he wipes more topspin, he finish around
: elbow.
: It's more about understanding the depth of the ball and follow through. The
: higher you finish the easier to keep the ball deep. Lower may get you a bit
: more pace. So it depends on what kind of shot you are choosing to hit.
| M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 7 Thanks for using unique to describe his western grip, I would use bad
instead, and I really want to change it to semi. But, I think the grip is
not the dominant factor for follow through low. Many Pros with semi western
grip still finish low if they wipe topspin with their wrist or do windshield
wiper.
evolve
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: your son's grip and hitting is a bit unique. Normally eastern or semi-
: western grip naturally goes up the left shoulder at this age because they
: hit low to high and the swing path is mostly due to the arm movement, not
: wrist. Most kids I see are like that.
: With stronger and stronger body and wrist, eventually the swing will evolve
: to the modern way of finishing for semiwestern, i.e. ending at the left.
: He started from extreme-western, that way it's awkward to finish up the
: shoulder.
: I think the following through is just like the pronation in serve, if you
: have a good shot, it goes to where it's supposed to go.
| b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 8 Wta slap so it's kinda like a drive thus you need to finish high to gain
depth and topspin. Kids lack power at first slap is easy power
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: Many kids finish up like Julia Goerges (her finish, not her shot). I think
: that's natural. It's a bit strange for pro; I think Goerges either never
: changed it, or meant to keep it.
:
: high
: through
: around
: The
: bit
| x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 9 She is a bit different, almost suffocating herself.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Wta slap so it's kinda like a drive thus you need to finish high to gain
: depth and topspin. Kids lack power at first slap is easy power
| M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 10 你这个说得好玩，suffocating herself, 特地去油管看了看，真有点象。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: She is a bit different, almost suffocating herself.
| x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 11 她的击球有点象业余选手，胳膊弯的太多，手腕绷的太早，左右手有时候不协调。她大
概正常击球是结束在左肩上，小部分绕头，偶而结束在左侧。结束在左侧的时候整个身
体姿势看着很难受，还不如wsn，感觉就象是一个身体太瘦弱的人用重拍子不敢伸直胳
膊。所以说随挥就是击球的延续，打好了球随挥是自然而然的。
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 你这个说得好玩，suffocating herself, 特地去油管看了看，真有点象。
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