h******n 发帖数: 734 | 1 上周一个match好多short ball 我 dropshot into net. 发现一些没drop好过网的 也
往往十分有效,可以直接volley搞定
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 2 我知道的一般有两种,反手DTL drop shot, 和正手inside out dropshot。 我现在只
会反手drop shot。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上周一个match好多short ball 我 dropshot into net. 发现一些没drop好过网的 也 : 往往十分有效,可以直接volley搞定 : drop shot 一般往什么方向打?
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 3 2-3 times net height. In another word, hit to the sky.
Works against most 大叔 + 老头.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上周一个match好多short ball 我 dropshot into net. 发现一些没drop好过网的 也 : 往往十分有效,可以直接volley搞定 : drop shot 一般往什么方向打?
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 4 that's not a drop shot. that is like a deep lob + come to the net.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 2-3 times net height. In another word, hit to the sky. : Works against most 大叔 + 老头.
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 5 so my idea is to drop the ball so
1 he can't get to the ball
2 the ball is low when he makes contact and I anticipate a volley to open
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 No, your ball falls down when crossing the net. The highest point
(before reaching the net) is 2-3 times the net height.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : that's not a drop shot. that is like a deep lob + come to the net.
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 7 interesting. but i guess most guys in my ladder will kill this ball when it
sits up.
it is bad bad to allow them make contact above the net.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : No, your ball falls down when crossing the net. The highest point : (before reaching the net) is 2-3 times the net height.
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 8 从策略上为什么要反手dtl 正手 inside out?
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我知道的一般有两种,反手DTL drop shot, 和正手inside out dropshot。 我现在只 : 会反手drop shot。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 9 i think what 老肯meant is 2~3 feet above net when it's passing the net, it
dips right away once it's over net. It's very 隐蔽的, as opponent thought
it's a deep chip and but it turns out to be out of reach. This kind of drop
shot requires very good feel. It's very difficult to teach. I don't know at
one time it just clicked to me, and I own it naturally ever since. :)
it
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : interesting. but i guess most guys in my ladder will kill this ball when it : sits up. : it is bad bad to allow them make contact above the net.
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 10 got it, seems like a tough shot.
i need a beginner 'high percentage' drop shot strategy:)
drop
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【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think what 老肯meant is 2~3 feet above net when it's passing the net, it : dips right away once it's over net. It's very 隐蔽的, as opponent thought : it's a deep chip and but it turns out to be out of reach. This kind of drop : shot requires very good feel. It's very difficult to teach. I don't know at : one time it just clicked to me, and I own it naturally ever since. :) : : it
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 11 well, to hit a good dropshot, it's better to 隐蔽and inside court.
1. 反手pretend deep cross court drive, 突然来一个 DTL drop, 非常隐蔽,而且
是high percentage, 你跟进后,即使对手击到球,你也能cover volley 或 ground
stroke。
2. 正手pretend to rip inside out , 对手已经准备斜向向后跑动防守,突然一个
drop, 对手要变线前进非常难。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从策略上为什么要反手dtl 正手 inside out?
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 12 drop shot is not for beginner, if you don't own it, never made it during
practice, don't hit it. Try to improve your attacking game and net game to
the next level first. Drop shot to me is like lazy shot, that i want to end
1 point quickly.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : got it, seems like a tough shot. : i need a beginner 'high percentage' drop shot strategy:) : : drop : at
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 13 this makes sense. i'll up a video for you to judge if the both drop shots
are good choices.
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【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : drop shot is not for beginner, if you don't own it, never made it during : practice, don't hit it. Try to improve your attacking game and net game to : the next level first. Drop shot to me is like lazy shot, that i want to end : 1 point quickly.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 14 No, the main purpose is to increase percentage. High dropping dropshot
has a lot more chance to avoid UE than flat soft ones.
For harrison's question, no the opponent won't contact the ball above
the net. The ball dies right after bounce. I learned it the hard way
from my local 老油条。
Dropshot is my main method to handle 3.0暴力男。Hitting high is by far
the most effective method to avoid UE and make it reliable/repeatable.
drop
at
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think what 老肯meant is 2~3 feet above net when it's passing the net, it : dips right away once it's over net. It's very 隐蔽的, as opponent thought : it's a deep chip and but it turns out to be out of reach. This kind of drop : shot requires very good feel. It's very difficult to teach. I don't know at : one time it just clicked to me, and I own it naturally ever since. :) : : it
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 15 This is the drop shot i am talking about. At higher level, whether it's high
or not, it has to be executed perfectly otherwise a lot of fast 4.0+
opponents will get to it. Even it looks high when passing net, it's still
easy to make unforced error if i don't have the feel on any particular day.
Believe me, to hit it perfectly, hitting it high is not the key, i never
thought that way when i made a good drop shot.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : No, the main purpose is to increase percentage. High dropping dropshot : has a lot more chance to avoid UE than flat soft ones. : For harrison's question, no the opponent won't contact the ball above : the net. The ball dies right after bounce. I learned it the hard way : from my local 老油条。 : Dropshot is my main method to handle 3.0暴力男。Hitting high is by far : the most effective method to avoid UE and make it reliable/repeatable. : : drop : at
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 16 To me hitting a dropshot over the net is the 1st priority.
Hitting a sitter is a lot better than hitting it into the net, especially
if you plan to do it more than 10 times during a match. A bad dropshot
beats a suicide dropshot.
If you don't have the feel, you make more UEs hitting flat dropshots
than high dropshots. If you have the feel, it's the same. It's all about
the percentage and it's simple physics really.
If opponent can run, you shouldn't rely on dropshot in the 1st place.
I only do it against 老头。
The other benefit of high dropshot is the backspin. It cancels out the
forward momentum, mush easier than a flat dropshot (which has faster
forward speed). I.e. it may bounce slightly higher, but it stays closer
to the net.
high
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【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is the drop shot i am talking about. At higher level, whether it's high : or not, it has to be executed perfectly otherwise a lot of fast 4.0+ : opponents will get to it. Even it looks high when passing net, it's still : easy to make unforced error if i don't have the feel on any particular day. : Believe me, to hit it perfectly, hitting it high is not the key, i never : thought that way when i made a good drop shot.
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 17 basic rules i would follow is
1. disguise
2. keep it the shortest distance in the air, this way opponent will have
less distance to react and it will be easier for you to cover
3. do not hit dropshot behind the base line (if you are 5.0, then that's a
different story)
4. do not hit dropshot if it's like a foot below the net.
Bee 说的inside out fh dropshot, 能成功的最大原因是disguise.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上周一个match好多short ball 我 dropshot into net. 发现一些没drop好过网的 也 : 往往十分有效,可以直接volley搞定 : drop shot 一般往什么方向打?
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J*****o 发帖数: 1129 | 18 老费的那种drop shot , wsn能有几个做的出来?老肯要是能做到,而不被4.0以上的
拍死,那老肯就已经是4.5了。个人还是同意bee和黑道的观点。总体来说,dropshot不
是wsn刚开始应该学的。 |
J*****o 发帖数: 1129 | 19 或者说,在我看来,dropshot是个相当难掌握的技术,不到一定的水平,很难
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J*****o 发帖数: 1129 | 20 老费的那种drop shot , wsn能有几个做的出来?老肯要是能做到,而不被4.0以上的
拍死,那老肯就已经是4.5了。个人还是同意bee和黑道的观点。总体来说,dropshot不
是wsn刚开始应该学的。 |
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 21 bias:)
i think i've graduated from playing nice looking tennis to ugly tennis.
shots that can win the match are equally important.
drop shots will expose many players' conditioning weakness, they don't have
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 22 now you can work on winning by nice looking tennis and graduate from that. :
P
have
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bias:) : i think i've graduated from playing nice looking tennis to ugly tennis. : shots that can win the match are equally important. : drop shots will expose many players' conditioning weakness, they don't have : a strong posterior chain to move forward.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 23 你没见过就靠dropshot吃饭的4.0吧? 偶这里有个老油条,最擅长shots为dropshot,
overhead, volley,lob.
偶就是和他打多了才明白了dropshot应该朝上打,下降期过网。
老费那种dropshot,wsn老头做出来的多了。反而是那种刚刚高过网全靠手感的不常见。
【在 J*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 老费的那种drop shot , wsn能有几个做的出来?老肯要是能做到,而不被4.0以上的 : 拍死,那老肯就已经是4.5了。个人还是同意bee和黑道的观点。总体来说,dropshot不 : 是wsn刚开始应该学的。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 24 Dropshots go with lobs. They should be practiced together.
have
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bias:) : i think i've graduated from playing nice looking tennis to ugly tennis. : shots that can win the match are equally important. : drop shots will expose many players' conditioning weakness, they don't have : a strong posterior chain to move forward.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 25 不明白有啥难的。本版就有个dropshot.
dropshot对付两类对手可以成为屡试不爽策略:
1)跑不动的。比如暴力老头。这个不限等级。
2)finish不了短球的。比如你是3.5的话,98%的3.0都属于这一类。所以这个是
确保胜等级低于你选手的稳保策略(而不用担心意外翻船)。或者对方同是3.5,
但是是无力纯pusher,也可以。这一类一般到4.0以上就比较少了。
【在 J*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 或者说,在我看来,dropshot是个相当难掌握的技术,不到一定的水平,很难 : consistently变成致命武器。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 26 dropshot在4.0+我见过的球友里能掌握的人还是有一些的。
不过呢,我绝大多数shot都是朝上打,所以dropshot朝上打根本不需要明白吧 @_@,即
使是普通的slice 也不是朝下打的。
见。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你没见过就靠dropshot吃饭的4.0吧? 偶这里有个老油条,最擅长shots为dropshot, : overhead, volley,lob. : 偶就是和他打多了才明白了dropshot应该朝上打,下降期过网。 : 老费那种dropshot,wsn老头做出来的多了。反而是那种刚刚高过网全靠手感的不常见。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 27 终于意识到什么是"dropshot朝上打"了。。。。
是指球的traveling path.... 打是“向下”削, shave, carve... 这个“向上”打太
misleading 了。。。。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : dropshot在4.0+我见过的球友里能掌握的人还是有一些的。 : 不过呢,我绝大多数shot都是朝上打,所以dropshot朝上打根本不需要明白吧 @_@,即 : 使是普通的slice 也不是朝下打的。 : : 见。
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 28 what if it is a mid court slow ball at the service line?
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : dropshot在4.0+我见过的球友里能掌握的人还是有一些的。 : 不过呢,我绝大多数shot都是朝上打,所以dropshot朝上打根本不需要明白吧 @_@,即 : 使是普通的slice 也不是朝下打的。 : : 见。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 29 10度朝上和30度朝上还是有很大区别的。以前偶是靠控制力度朝上10度,动辄
下网或者打成短slice.
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : dropshot在4.0+我见过的球友里能掌握的人还是有一些的。 : 不过呢,我绝大多数shot都是朝上打,所以dropshot朝上打根本不需要明白吧 @_@,即 : 使是普通的slice 也不是朝下打的。 : : 见。
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 30 是不是手腕和拧螺丝一样拧一下
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 10度朝上和30度朝上还是有很大区别的。以前偶是靠控制力度朝上10度,动辄 : 下网或者打成短slice.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 31 Nope, 就是朝天上削球。
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是不是手腕和拧螺丝一样拧一下
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 32 有可能个人的体会不同,如果你能dropshot出类似pro的那种高级dropshot, 那就坚持
你自己的方法。我的drop shot tip是用拍子非常薄的cup 球,swing path先朝斜下再
朝斜上,球在拍子上逗留的时间越长,球bounce后与“回缩”越厉害。这的确要靠手感
的。就像篮球投三分球,即使你往上投,有时候连蓝框都碰不到。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 10度朝上和30度朝上还是有很大区别的。以前偶是靠控制力度朝上10度,动辄 : 下网或者打成短slice.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 偶是觉得你这种难得多。
偶那种是把dropshot当作一个普通正反手来打的通用打法,比如经常底线附近放
dropshot。例子比如A拉:
只有朝上打才能保证足够成功率。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有可能个人的体会不同,如果你能dropshot出类似pro的那种高级dropshot, 那就坚持 : 你自己的方法。我的drop shot tip是用拍子非常薄的cup 球,swing path先朝斜下再 : 朝斜上,球在拍子上逗留的时间越长,球bounce后与“回缩”越厉害。这的确要靠手感 : 的。就像篮球投三分球,即使你往上投,有时候连蓝框都碰不到。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 34 原来老肯 = 老坑 lol 这也太坑人了,A拉明明是向下削/shave/carve drop, 你硬说是
向上打。 其实pro 的基本都是像 Bee 说的cup 的ball... 至少前半断是基本一样,
后半个"cup"得看你的court positioning, 来球的旋转等来调整。。。 有些需要cup
up, 有些需要stay down and forward to the left/right 等等。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 偶是觉得你这种难得多。 : 偶那种是把dropshot当作一个普通正反手来打的通用打法,比如经常底线附近放 : dropshot。例子比如A拉: : 只有朝上打才能保证足够成功率。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 里面一半是朝上打。再明确一下“向上”是球(明显)向上。
你要看更明显的例子的话(虽然这个是搞笑视频):
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 原来老肯 = 老坑 lol 这也太坑人了,A拉明明是向下削/shave/carve drop, 你硬说是 : 向上打。 其实pro 的基本都是像 Bee 说的cup 的ball... 至少前半断是基本一样, : 后半个"cup"得看你的court positioning, 来球的旋转等来调整。。。 有些需要cup : up, 有些需要stay down and forward to the left/right 等等。。。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 36 picture is worth a thousand word. Which way is the racquet going?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 里面一半是朝上打。再明确一下“向上”是球(明显)向上。 : 你要看更明显的例子的话(虽然这个是搞笑视频):
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 37 I don't care where the racket is going. The players controled the
direction of the ball.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : picture is worth a thousand word. Which way is the racquet going?
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 38 这里我同意老肯的说法,下降期过网的Dropshot其实反而比较好控制,而且可以加很多
backspin,虽然球向上打,但是过网后backspin很多,对方即时跑到位也不见得能会的
多好,多数情况是drop回来,而且成功率较高,而其如果刚过网,几乎就是winner了。
这种高过网带强力backspin的球,看着容易被拍死,其实和容易造成对方失误。
我最近刻意在底线练了些这样的dropshot,可以放出很多backspin,但是如果我想打那
些刚刚过网的,成功率太低了,否则球过网高了远了,没有足够的backspin,对方很容
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 39 这么说的话, 90+% 或95+%的球都是向上打。。。 你这个drop shot和slice, drive,
topsin, lob, 有什么区别。 不咬文嚼字了, 其实你和Bee讲的是一回事啦。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't care where the racket is going. The players controled the : direction of the ball.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 40 还是上视频吧。
比较一下下面两种dropshots, 偶认为第二种的成功率更高,而且这个是这么打的
最主要目的。
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这里我同意老肯的说法,下降期过网的Dropshot其实反而比较好控制,而且可以加很多 : backspin,虽然球向上打,但是过网后backspin很多,对方即时跑到位也不见得能会的 : 多好,多数情况是drop回来,而且成功率较高,而其如果刚过网,几乎就是winner了。 : 这种高过网带强力backspin的球,看着容易被拍死,其实和容易造成对方失误。 : 我最近刻意在底线练了些这样的dropshot,可以放出很多backspin,但是如果我想打那 : 些刚刚过网的,成功率太低了,否则球过网高了远了,没有足够的backspin,对方很容 : 易跑到位抽死。
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b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 41 不能完全同意最后一句。3.5一下有更多要学的。4.0+就有需要了。我们这里一个老油
条,水平4.0+巴,他就很喜欢drop shot,对付3.5一下的都很有效。
【在 J*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 老费的那种drop shot , wsn能有几个做的出来?老肯要是能做到,而不被4.0以上的 : 拍死,那老肯就已经是4.5了。个人还是同意bee和黑道的观点。总体来说,dropshot不 : 是wsn刚开始应该学的。
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a***8 发帖数: 2433 | 42 drop shot 的方向:
底线反手:削向敌人。 因为人对直接迎面飞来的物体的速度判断不好,对飞向旁边的
物体容易判断速度,削向敌人会延缓敌人判读出短球 - 你需要能保持一样的削球动作
底线正手:削向远离敌人的角落 - 正手削的动作一出敌人就看出来了,只能尽量让他
多跑几步
截击高于网的球:直接平挡放在自己跟前,不用动就可以截击敌人下一个的回球
截击低于网的球:沿着网吊对角,让球在最高点过网。这样可以让球有一定速度(容易
打)的同时让球不朝底线走,而且让球的反弹最低化。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what if it is a mid court slow ball at the service line?
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 43 8m20s 的一个drop shot.不是很短,但是给了我一个volley.
https://youtu.be/nJGl9OnUvAQ?t=8m20s
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 44 的确不短,属于失败型的drop shot。离我说的那种还差很远。跟高手打,不短的drop
shot跟自杀区别不大。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 8m20s 的一个drop shot.不是很短,但是给了我一个volley. : https://youtu.be/nJGl9OnUvAQ?t=8m20s : 我得好好想想大家说的内容。
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 45 同意,数了视频里的四个,全部是类似自杀或者下网..
那最后这个球他slice short.应该怎么半?
drop
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 的确不短,属于失败型的drop shot。离我说的那种还差很远。跟高手打,不短的drop : shot跟自杀区别不大。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 46 你是蓝衣的对吧?首先最后那个球是你先slice short造成的被动。其次,他想放drop,
质量太差。这时候有两种打法:
1. 正手running forehand厉害的,跑到位(注意你要跑到有足够的horizontal space),
flip wrist, 拉球的侧面, cross court, 对手完全out of reach (这种球我打得不
好,但我有些球友打得不错)
2. 我一般会跑到位,用正手slice, 有点像 low volley一样的推, 动作比较隐蔽的话
,成功率还是蛮高的。因为cc 完全open, 我会low slice cc。
如果我是你对手,你给我放反手short slice, 我双反cross court wide angle
approach, 基本上是我绝对优势了。
Rule of thumbs, 除非很短,不要出短。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 同意,数了视频里的四个,全部是类似自杀或者下网.. : 那最后这个球他slice short.应该怎么半? : : drop
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 47 i am in yellow, lol
drop,
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【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你是蓝衣的对吧?首先最后那个球是你先slice short造成的被动。其次,他想放drop, : 质量太差。这时候有两种打法: : 1. 正手running forehand厉害的,跑到位(注意你要跑到有足够的horizontal space), : flip wrist, 拉球的侧面, cross court, 对手完全out of reach (这种球我打得不 : 好,但我有些球友打得不错) : 2. 我一般会跑到位,用正手slice, 有点像 low volley一样的推, 动作比较隐蔽的话 : ,成功率还是蛮高的。因为cc 完全open, 我会low slice cc。 : 如果我是你对手,你给我放反手short slice, 我双反cross court wide angle : approach, 基本上是我绝对优势了。 : Rule of thumbs, 除非很短,不要出短。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 48 蓝衣这种放中场附近的slice 短球不适合drop shot。 move your feet, use the
right footwork pattern to hit a quality BH or FH approach shot是正规的打法,
which will help you improve to next level。 Do not be content just win a
point against 3.5 or weak player using ugly 打法, 因为这在4 0+是无法立足的
。必须要加强approach shot。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i am in yellow, lol : : drop, : ),
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 49 这种slice short ball我击到球时已经低于net cord,你说要top spin roll the ball
over 而且deep? very very tough for me to do.
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 蓝衣这种放中场附近的slice 短球不适合drop shot。 move your feet, use the : right footwork pattern to hit a quality BH or FH approach shot是正规的打法, : which will help you improve to next level。 Do not be content just win a : point against 3.5 or weak player using ugly 打法, 因为这在4 0+是无法立足的 : 。必须要加强approach shot。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 50 that's why you need to learn this shot.
there are 3 options.
1. player with the best footwork can move and hit a FH approach either
inside out or cross court.
2. hit a BH cross court wide angle
3. hit a attacking BH slice DTL or cross court
I can do #2 or #3 pretty reliably. Still learning/improving #1.
ball
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种slice short ball我击到球时已经低于net cord,你说要top spin roll the ball : over 而且deep? very very tough for me to do.
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 51 是的, 我说的就是第二种,我最近练习就发现这种成功率更高,backspin可以很多。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还是上视频吧。 : 比较一下下面两种dropshots, 偶认为第二种的成功率更高,而且这个是这么打的 : 最主要目的。
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 52 the 2nd one looks like a mishit. no idea why the guy didn't chase the ball,
maybe he thought the ball was out, and it landed on the line.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还是上视频吧。 : 比较一下下面两种dropshots, 偶认为第二种的成功率更高,而且这个是这么打的 : 最主要目的。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 53 The focus is to see how high the ball is, not how close it is to the line.
I've already posted Federer's another similar high dropshot earlier in
this thread, which is 1 feet inside the line.
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【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the 2nd one looks like a mishit. no idea why the guy didn't chase the ball, : maybe he thought the ball was out, and it landed on the line.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 54 打右手,正手dropshot必须inside out带外旋。你这样的shot selection太危险了,
除非对手正手比反手差。
进场的dropshot不一定需要挑高,只要你失误率能忍受就行。底线距离远,太难控制,
基本思路是高dropshot.
偶现在进场的都有一半是挑高dropshot. 尤其是用憋球的时候。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 8m20s 的一个drop shot.不是很短,但是给了我一个volley. : https://youtu.be/nJGl9OnUvAQ?t=8m20s : 我得好好想想大家说的内容。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 55 这种球打dropshot 不是个好的selection. 你是被对手调上网的, 你向前跑的冲力容
易将球push deeper,并且拍子已经下垂在那儿告诉对手你只可能chip over short or
slice/chip deep. 对手站在底线上随机等待着。
这种情况你该
1. chip deep to his BH and force him to his a good pass or lob,
2. chip short to his bh, force him to dig it up so you get an easy volley.
3. is what you did.
But all in all, it's are shot you can rip with a forehand as Bee pointed out
. You know your opponent's bh is weak, and slice most of time, so once you
hit a good shot to his bh, you should be ready on or just behind the base
line to charge forward. And you really should just go in and rip that ball.
Sure you may miss, that's how you get better (老肯may disagree on this one).
And by ripping it, you are also sending a message to your opponent, and may
actually earn you more points down the road....
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 8m20s 的一个drop shot.不是很短,但是给了我一个volley. : https://youtu.be/nJGl9OnUvAQ?t=8m20s : 我得好好想想大家说的内容。
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h******n 发帖数: 734 | 56 good stuff guys. shot selection advice always helpful to me.
but i agree with bee that short ball handling ability is my next big barrier
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h****z 发帖数: 2009 | 57 我最近练这个比较多,放dropshot前先拉开架势佯攻,让对方呆底线不敢动,然后突然
来这
招,效果很好
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打右手,正手dropshot必须inside out带外旋。你这样的shot selection太危险了, : 除非对手正手比反手差。 : 进场的dropshot不一定需要挑高,只要你失误率能忍受就行。底线距离远,太难控制, : 基本思路是高dropshot. : 偶现在进场的都有一半是挑高dropshot. 尤其是用憋球的时候。
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 58 Yeah, this short ball handling (whether it's coming from low slice or no
pace short ball) differentiate a 3.5/4.0- from a good 4.0/4.0+. It also
differentiate a good 4.0 from a 4.5. IMO, this short ball handling is the
MOST critical technique or barrier for people including me who wants to move
to 4.5 .
barrier
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : good stuff guys. shot selection advice always helpful to me. : but i agree with bee that short ball handling ability is my next big barrier : .
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