b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 1 昨天被4.5 彻底crush, 他双反DTL经常能打出不是非常 深不penetrating但很低平的球
，球彈在service line 附近， 我必须斜向跑进场一些去打open stance正手，mishit
或失误多了些。请问这类低球用半西方正手怎么处理最好，回球路线怎样是high
percentage。 |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 2 how did you hit the shot before that, where were you and him on the court
prior to his 双反DTL?
mishit
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 昨天被4.5 彻底crush, 他双反DTL经常能打出不是非常 深不penetrating但很低平的球
: ，球彈在service line 附近， 我必须斜向跑进场一些去打open stance正手，mishit
: 或失误多了些。请问这类低球用半西方正手怎么处理最好，回球路线怎样是high
: percentage。
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 3 是啊，彼此在court上的位置可能在这种情况下更重要。如果在家是已经到了中场或者
网前了，那对方的这种回球可能就是直接穿越了，无解。如果是还在底线附近，那可能
是回个CC更保险一点，况且对手这时是站在他的ad court的。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: how did you hit the shot before that, where were you and him on the court
: prior to his 双反DTL?
:
: mishit
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 4 i was in backhand cross court rally with him prior to his 2hbh dtl。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: how did you hit the shot before that, where were you and him on the court
: prior to his 双反DTL?
:
: mishit
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 5 我记得你是西方式，偏超西，最近改了？
mishit
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 昨天被4.5 彻底crush, 他双反DTL经常能打出不是非常 深不penetrating但很低平的球
: ，球彈在service line 附近， 我必须斜向跑进场一些去打open stance正手，mishit
: 或失误多了些。请问这类低球用半西方正手怎么处理最好，回球路线怎样是high
: percentage。
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 6 实在不行跑进去砍过去。 有个WTA的正手100%都是刀削面。 你找视频看看。 |
b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 7 No, I'm not western. I might be a little extreme semi western, but
definitely not western, which swing motion (forearm supination) is very
weird to me.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: 我记得你是西方式，偏超西，最近改了？
:
: mishit
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 8 Use western grip to carry the ball over the net, use mostly fore-arm. Down
the line most, cross court is more difficult.
Follow up with volley. |
b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 9 我也有过类似问题，有3种办法：
1。用东方式正手接低球
2。办西方式，虽挥过头，也就是reverse forehand，很多职业选手这么搞
3。削回去
我觉得方法1投入产出比不很高，但一旦掌握2种握拍，可以打乱对手的timing
2是比较正规的方法，我觉得比较好，但需要不少训练
3可以换grip也可以不换。作为alternative不错，如果老这么搞，容易被对手抓住弱点
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 10 bh cc, i assume both are in neutral position, your opponent decide to
counter one dtl line and lands just behind the service line area.
couple questions:
-did you see that coming?
-did you recover to the proper position after you hit your bh cc?
-how come you are satisfied with bh cc instead of run around and hit your fh?
base on your description of his shot, it's not a slice or drop shot, it
doesn't penetrate... I'm just surprised that you allow the ball to drop that
low. I feel knowing that might be the first step to solve the issue.
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: i was in backhand cross court rally with him prior to his 2hbh dtl。
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 11 I think I did recover to the proper position after I hit bh cc.
I did get ready for either directions, but usually I'm more prepared for a
deep BH DTL from my opponent. It's not that there is no time for me to run
to the shot. I still have time. It's just that I feel awkward or don't have
a solid answer for this type of shot.
What do you mean by you're surprised that I allow the ball to drop that low?
The ball comes low, very low trajectory (just over net, very flat, but not
deep, not short either for me to approach), so after bounce, it's low.
fh?
that
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: bh cc, i assume both are in neutral position, your opponent decide to
: counter one dtl line and lands just behind the service line area.
: couple questions:
: -did you see that coming?
: -did you recover to the proper position after you hit your bh cc?
: -how come you are satisfied with bh cc instead of run around and hit your fh?
: base on your description of his shot, it's not a slice or drop shot, it
: doesn't penetrate... I'm just surprised that you allow the ball to drop that
: low. I feel knowing that might be the first step to solve the issue.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 12 here is my random 2c:
if he hit a great dtl low short ball that rarely bounce, good for him, it is
a low percentage shot anyway.
if he can hit it consistently to trouble you. then he is really good. |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 13 how low is low to you? below knee? below 50% of knee mark? ankle high? how
short is not too short? between service line and no-mans land?
My take is your opponent just took your pace and countered it off the rise,
guided dtl. Ball is maybe 4ish feet high when over the net, but shouldn't be
too fast. By the time the ball crosses the net, you should be at center of
the court behind the base line. When it bounces, you should already started
moving forward (maybe still behind or on the baseline). If it lands behind
the service line, it should bounce again near the no-mans land or deeper. In
that case it should only take you 1 or 2 steps forward to be in position.
The purpose of my question is more of if you were in position,
balanced, set, and still have issue with that shot (this could be more
technical). Or you are not in position and prepared thus you have issue with
that shot (more of anticipation or issue with previous shot/shots etc.).
have
low?
not
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: I think I did recover to the proper position after I hit bh cc.
: I did get ready for either directions, but usually I'm more prepared for a
: deep BH DTL from my opponent. It's not that there is no time for me to run
: to the shot. I still have time. It's just that I feel awkward or don't have
: a solid answer for this type of shot.
: What do you mean by you're surprised that I allow the ball to drop that low?
: The ball comes low, very low trajectory (just over net, very flat, but not
: deep, not short either for me to approach), so after bounce, it's low.
:
: fh?
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 14 He is really good, shot placement is so smart, movement and defense are
relentless.
is
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: here is my random 2c:
: if he hit a great dtl low short ball that rarely bounce, good for him, it is
: a low percentage shot anyway.
: if he can hit it consistently to trouble you. then he is really good.
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 15 Most of the shots coming from his 2hbh DTL are below Knee. I think it's
mixture of my forehand technique and anticipation. It's tough to judge the
depth of this kind of DTL shots though. And I need to improve my forehand
footwork on this kind of shots.
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【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: how low is low to you? below knee? below 50% of knee mark? ankle high? how
: short is not too short? between service line and no-mans land?
: My take is your opponent just took your pace and countered it off the rise,
: guided dtl. Ball is maybe 4ish feet high when over the net, but shouldn't be
: too fast. By the time the ball crosses the net, you should be at center of
: the court behind the base line. When it bounces, you should already started
: moving forward (maybe still behind or on the baseline). If it lands behind
: the service line, it should bounce again near the no-mans land or deeper. In
: that case it should only take you 1 or 2 steps forward to be in position.
: The purpose of my question is more of if you were in position,
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 16 就deep CC到对方deuce side呗。不能进场finish就loop起来然后回位等下一拍。
我估计楼主看到对方出浅就想上前进攻，其实既然已经意识到对方球虽然浅慢，但是低
平，自己没有优势的球，就当成均势，从新reset the point，接着耐心寻找机会。
我经常正手inside out把对方拉出场外，优势的球，对方被动情况下，把球挑到场中间
发球线和底线中间，没转也没pace，就是高，然后人家从容回位。如果我要是有很好的
swing volley估计就拿分了，但是因为技术还不过关，比赛时候就不敢用，能做的就是
reset，等球落下后重新rally。我问教练，教练也是这么说，说如果注重比赛成绩，就
只能这么做。平时多练swing volley，high volley上网还有底线附近bounce后的
overhead。 |
b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 17 Yeah, I agree. I need to be more patient to reset the point by hitting a not
very aggressive FH CC. Most of times when I mishit this kind of ball, I was
thinking too much about attacking.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 就deep CC到对方deuce side呗。不能进场finish就loop起来然后回位等下一拍。
: 我估计楼主看到对方出浅就想上前进攻，其实既然已经意识到对方球虽然浅慢，但是低
: 平，自己没有优势的球，就当成均势，从新reset the point，接着耐心寻找机会。
: 我经常正手inside out把对方拉出场外，优势的球，对方被动情况下，把球挑到场中间
: 发球线和底线中间，没转也没pace，就是高，然后人家从容回位。如果我要是有很好的
: swing volley估计就拿分了，但是因为技术还不过关，比赛时候就不敢用，能做的就是
: reset，等球落下后重新rally。我问教练，教练也是这么说，说如果注重比赛成绩，就
: 只能这么做。平时多练swing volley，high volley上网还有底线附近bounce后的
: overhead。
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 18 About this one, it's something I've improved over the last year, which is if
I'm aware that I hit a great wide angle shot, opponent is on the run who
could only chip back or loop back with a weak shot, I will sneak to the net
no matter what. The most important of all is I need to realize this
situation right way and commit sneaking to the net. Whether it is high
volley, overhead, swing volley or just a chip volley doesn't matter. As long
as I keep sneaking to net in this kind of situation, I will improve my
volleys.
Besides, the sooner that I'm aware of this situation that I start to sneak
in, the easier volley it is. If I'm late sneaking, I will have to hit a
swing volley, which is tougher.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 就deep CC到对方deuce side呗。不能进场finish就loop起来然后回位等下一拍。
: 我估计楼主看到对方出浅就想上前进攻，其实既然已经意识到对方球虽然浅慢，但是低
: 平，自己没有优势的球，就当成均势，从新reset the point，接着耐心寻找机会。
: 我经常正手inside out把对方拉出场外，优势的球，对方被动情况下，把球挑到场中间
: 发球线和底线中间，没转也没pace，就是高，然后人家从容回位。如果我要是有很好的
: swing volley估计就拿分了，但是因为技术还不过关，比赛时候就不敢用，能做的就是
: reset，等球落下后重新rally。我问教练，教练也是这么说，说如果注重比赛成绩，就
: 只能这么做。平时多练swing volley，high volley上网还有底线附近bounce后的
: overhead。
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j******g
发帖数: 197 | 19 正手削球，削到对角线，削到对手的正手。以其人之道还治其人之身。这样逼迫对手从
反手跑到正手。
而且，削球飞行时间长，给你足够时间去cover position。
对方打了这种球，不要想办法一拍子打死对方，很难。
如果你真想对这种球也进攻，那么可以练练奔跑中，正手提拉对角线，就像纳达尔那种。
不过难度大，更耗体力。总体来说，还是削对角线比较好。
mishit
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 昨天被4.5 彻底crush, 他双反DTL经常能打出不是非常 深不penetrating但很低平的球
: ，球彈在service line 附近， 我必须斜向跑进场一些去打open stance正手，mishit
: 或失误多了些。请问这类低球用半西方正手怎么处理最好，回球路线怎样是high
: percentage。
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c********a
发帖数: 244 | 20 I have exactly the same issue. That kind of flat short bhdtl shot annoys and
freezes me every single time.
For me, it is just a timing thing. I just need to play him more.
mishit
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 昨天被4.5 彻底crush, 他双反DTL经常能打出不是非常 深不penetrating但很低平的球
: ，球彈在service line 附近， 我必须斜向跑进场一些去打open stance正手，mishit
: 或失误多了些。请问这类低球用半西方正手怎么处理最好，回球路线怎样是high
: percentage。
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c********a
发帖数: 244 | 21 Blacklodoss does have a point though. It usually happens when we are not 100
% fully set. Anticipating deep fast ball coming at you, observing a full
fast swing from the opponent, we then end up with short flat ball. Maybe it
is just a pattern the wsn practised.
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: Most of the shots coming from his 2hbh DTL are below Knee. I think it's
: mixture of my forehand technique and anticipation. It's tough to judge the
: depth of this kind of DTL shots though. And I need to improve my forehand
: footwork on this kind of shots.
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