f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | 1 http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2015-09-03/the_sabr_f
......
So far, no one has questioned the tactic’s sportsmanship, although it is
technically moving during one’s opponent’s serve – and intentionally
distracting. Maybe that’s because the innovator is Roger Federer, perhaps
the most respected and gentlemanly player in the game. |
d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 2 So the returner has to pick a spot and stay there to return a serve? What is
the difference between moving laterally to return a serve serving to your
backhand with forehand, and moving foreword to return a serve? |
w**a
发帖数: 3510 | 3 Well said dude! I am about to ask the same question - since when returner
only is allowed to stay at where he stands to return serve? Looks at McEnroe
, Edberg, they always moved around to return serve.
is
【在 d****t 的大作中提到】
: So the returner has to pick a spot and stay there to return a serve? What is
: the difference between moving laterally to return a serve serving to your
: backhand with forehand, and moving foreword to return a serve?
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 4 很简单，aim for his head
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2015-09-03/the_sabr_f
: ......
: So far, no one has questioned the tactic’s sportsmanship, although it is
: technically moving during one’s opponent’s serve – and intentionally
: distracting. Maybe that’s because the innovator is Roger Federer, perhaps
: the most respected and gentlemanly player in the game.
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 5 the guy is around the baseline when you are aiming, you are aiming for a
double fault,
【在 s****t 的大作中提到】
: 很简单，aim for his head
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 6 no i mean when he is at the net
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: the guy is around the baseline when you are aiming, you are aiming for a
: double fault,
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 7 我觉得大家都过度分析这个战术了。
这个是我费在出险招，如果我费得手，你就认了吧。你该怎么二发还怎么二发，没啥好
变的。 |
M******k
发帖数: 84 | 8 How do you know whether he will come to the net when you are about to serve?
【在 s****t 的大作中提到】
: no i mean when he is at the net
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 9 娱记写的
看来官方名称就叫SABR了
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2015-09-03/the_sabr_f
: ......
: So far, no one has questioned the tactic’s sportsmanship, although it is
: technically moving during one’s opponent’s serve – and intentionally
: distracting. Maybe that’s because the innovator is Roger Federer, perhaps
: the most respected and gentlemanly player in the game.
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n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 10 明明是偷学Brown在温网灭纳豆的招，变成老费专利了。。。 |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 11 I agree that Federer does nothing wrong under the current rule.
But on the other hand, if it's a Chinese guy keeps using this to beat
Federer, it's almost certain ATP will investigate and issue some warning,
under both monetary and political influence. They may even change the rule.
We can remind ourselves of the ban on some pingpong technique/paddle, and
how Wimbledon treated Seles in the final against Steffi. If players were
switched, those ban would never be implemented.
So author is not completely wrong.
McEnroe
【在 w**a 的大作中提到】
: Well said dude! I am about to ask the same question - since when returner
: only is allowed to stay at where he stands to return serve? Looks at McEnroe
: , Edberg, they always moved around to return serve.
:
: is
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 12 Same thing, Djokovic showed obvious fatigue in AO final, news are on CNN.
Murray does the same thing, no news at all. Djokovic quit a match citing
injury, suspicion about faking. Nadal does the same, he's really injured.
.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: I agree that Federer does nothing wrong under the current rule.
: But on the other hand, if it's a Chinese guy keeps using this to beat
: Federer, it's almost certain ATP will investigate and issue some warning,
: under both monetary and political influence. They may even change the rule.
: We can remind ourselves of the ban on some pingpong technique/paddle, and
: how Wimbledon treated Seles in the final against Steffi. If players were
: switched, those ban would never be implemented.
: So author is not completely wrong.
:
: McEnroe
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s********e
发帖数: 542 | 13 楼主你知道为什么没人question这个新招的sportsmanship吗？
因为大家不像你根本不懂这个新招的难度和风险。 |
f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | 14 你觉得贝克尔懂吗？
http://sports.sina.com.cn/tennis/atp/2015-09-12/doc-ifxhupik675
......而贝克尔曾在一次公开的采访中表示，他认为这是对对手的不尊重......
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 楼主你知道为什么没人question这个新招的sportsmanship吗？
: 因为大家不像你根本不懂这个新招的难度和风险。
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F****n
发帖数: 746 | 15 贝克尔自己就给人这样搞过，好吧。
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得贝克尔懂吗？
: http://sports.sina.com.cn/tennis/atp/2015-09-12/doc-ifxhupik675
: ......而贝克尔曾在一次公开的采访中表示，他认为这是对对手的不尊重......
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F****n
发帖数: 746 | 16 这是德子团队在玩心里战而已。
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得贝克尔懂吗？
: http://sports.sina.com.cn/tennis/atp/2015-09-12/doc-ifxhupik675
: ......而贝克尔曾在一次公开的采访中表示，他认为这是对对手的不尊重......
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 17 跨下击球才是不尊重 。
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得贝克尔懂吗？
: http://sports.sina.com.cn/tennis/atp/2015-09-12/doc-ifxhupik675
: ......而贝克尔曾在一次公开的采访中表示，他认为这是对对手的不尊重......
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d**n
发帖数: 559 | 18 Well said.
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: Same thing, Djokovic showed obvious fatigue in AO final, news are on CNN.
: Murray does the same thing, no news at all. Djokovic quit a match citing
: injury, suspicion about faking. Nadal does the same, he's really injured.
:
: .
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I*******t
发帖数: 1196 | |
f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | 20 我就是不喜欢那人回我的方式。我就是个客观讨论贴。结果他上来就号称是个懂球的。
这个版上谁又比谁能懂多少？不过找个真懂球的人质疑的证据扇他一下而已，呵呵。
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 贝克尔自己就给人这样搞过，好吧。
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 21 不尊重和干扰是完全不相关的概念，好不好？
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得贝克尔懂吗？
: http://sports.sina.com.cn/tennis/atp/2015-09-12/doc-ifxhupik675
: ......而贝克尔曾在一次公开的采访中表示，他认为这是对对手的不尊重......
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f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | |
k**u
发帖数: 10502 | 23 这个做法从技术上讲当然是高风险的，同时上网对对手也是一种心理压力，可能对手习
惯了就会好一些。
羽毛球的规则，在对方发球的时候是不可以移动脚的。网球可能不一样，把规则原文贴
上来看看么。 |
f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | 24 本版有专业裁判。这几天没见冒头。不知道是不是去裁美网了。该请他出来说说。
【在 k**u 的大作中提到】
: 这个做法从技术上讲当然是高风险的，同时上网对对手也是一种心理压力，可能对手习
: 惯了就会好一些。
: 羽毛球的规则，在对方发球的时候是不可以移动脚的。网球可能不一样，把规则原文贴
: 上来看看么。
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 25 肯定合规则
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 本版有专业裁判。这几天没见冒头。不知道是不是去裁美网了。该请他出来说说。
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 26 你是想说不尊重就是干扰对手？我还真不能理解你是怎么定义尊重的。以前背对皇帝就
是不尊重，不知道网球里的不尊重是怎么定义的？
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你是说尊重对方也可以干扰，是这意思吗？
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f*********e
发帖数: 8453 | 27 我觉得缺乏运动精神的基本都是不尊重对手，不尊重对手也算缺乏运动精神。干扰发球
属于缺乏运动精神，所以可以定
义成不尊重对手。当然老费这个是否算干扰目前没定论。所以我说嫌疑。费粉别拍我。
其实我老很喜欢看他这种拼命上网的打法。就是开个贴客观讨论一下。这个其实是个屁
股决定脑袋的事情，和纳粉觉得纳发球前动作香艳，德粉觉得德子发球前运球堪比乔丹
可能都是差不多的。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 你是想说不尊重就是干扰对手？我还真不能理解你是怎么定义尊重的。以前背对皇帝就
: 是不尊重，不知道网球里的不尊重是怎么定义的？
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