m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 1 A 10 off call on small blind.
3 gus called .
flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me.
turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I
do here?
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 3 Or call, and check on river. |
p*t 发帖数: 275 | 4 1. 3 guys or 4 guys? 3?
2. you're on small blind, how can someone check raise your bet? he just
raised, right?
I don't think anyone else would call here. Since I can't extract more money
from other guys, I'll just reraise him allin and gamble. After all, only 9
diamonds out there. If you don't raise now, you won't get anything on the
river, unless he's on something else, in which case, allin now is correct
too.
I
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : A 10 off call on small blind. : 3 gus called . : flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me. : turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I : do here? : continue ..
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 5 bet flop.
fold to the raise
I
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : A 10 off call on small blind. : 3 gus called . : flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me. : turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I : do here? : continue ..
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p*t 发帖数: 275 | 6 btw, I don't know how much he still has. That may change your play a little
bit.
money
【在 p*t 的大作中提到】 : 1. 3 guys or 4 guys? 3? : 2. you're on small blind, how can someone check raise your bet? he just : raised, right? : I don't think anyone else would call here. Since I can't extract more money : from other guys, I'll just reraise him allin and gamble. After all, only 9 : diamonds out there. If you don't raise now, you won't get anything on the : river, unless he's on something else, in which case, allin now is correct : too. : : I
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 7 ft, i thought KQJ all diamond...
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : bet flop. : fold to the raise : : I
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I**n 发帖数: 839 | 8 what kind of game? live, online?
What's the limit?
What kind of opponents?
What's the position of other two?
What about everyone's stack?
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I
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : A 10 off call on small blind. : 3 gus called . : flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me. : turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I : do here? : continue ..
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 9 whats the stack situation? basically you want to get him pot committed. If
the stack is deep i'll just raise the pot here.
I
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : A 10 off call on small blind. : 3 gus called . : flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me. : turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I : do here? : continue ..
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 10 If he call, the guy would bet on river for sure.If the guy bet $45, then
raise to $100, he has to call.
If he allin, the guy could call or fold.I guess 40% chance the guy would
call.
If the guy was bluffing, then allin would get nothing from him, but call and check on river would catch him.
money
【在 p*t 的大作中提到】 : 1. 3 guys or 4 guys? 3? : 2. you're on small blind, how can someone check raise your bet? he just : raised, right? : I don't think anyone else would call here. Since I can't extract more money : from other guys, I'll just reraise him allin and gamble. After all, only 9 : diamonds out there. If you don't raise now, you won't get anything on the : river, unless he's on something else, in which case, allin now is correct : too. : : I
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m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 11 only J is diamond on the flop.
he raise me to 22$ on the turn..
finally I select checked raise him to 66$, he called.
river is another K
KQJ3K now!
I chosed to all in the rest 136$ for this 136$ pot, since I can't fold he
call in( there all several kinds of full house there). |
w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 12 He could have pocket 33.
That's why call on turn was safer.
Now you don't have options.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : only J is diamond on the flop. : he raise me to 22$ on the turn.. : finally I select checked raise him to 66$, he called. : river is another K : KQJ3K now! : I chosed to all in the rest 136$ for this 136$ pot, since I can't fold he : call in( there all several kinds of full house there).
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m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 13 only J is diamond on the flop.
he raise me to 22$ on the turn..
finally I select checked raise him to 66$, he called.
river is another K
KQJ3K now!
I chosed to all in the rest 136$ for this 136$ pot, since I can't fold he
call in( there all several kinds of full house there). |
c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 14 I'd bet pot to charge those weaker hands like T9 or two pairs or top pair
or draws. now I'd reraise all in here, he stil may hold T9 in that case
he's almost drawing dead. If he has DTD9, he has outs, but you are still
ahead. Anyway, the flop is getting rather dangerous on the turn and
the pot is already reasonably big, so I'd just push all in here. If he can't
call, it's fine to win a nice pot.
I
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : A 10 off call on small blind. : 3 gus called . : flop KQJd no flush draw. I checked ,2 guys checked behind me. : turn is 3d i bet 8$ , the guy behind me checked raise to 22$ , what should I : do here? : continue ..
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c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 15 all in is fine, cause he still may call your bet with weaker hands. Check
is certainly wrong, cause you miss the chance to charge his weaker hands
and you only pay when you are beaten. Of course, if you can check and
fold a pot size bet by him, you can check. But the big laydown can be
wrong and super expensive as well. That's why all in reraise on turn
makes it simple.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : only J is diamond on the flop. : he raise me to 22$ on the turn.. : finally I select checked raise him to 66$, he called. : river is another K : KQJ3K now! : I chosed to all in the rest 136$ for this 136$ pot, since I can't fold he : call in( there all several kinds of full house there).
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 16 I think call on turn and check on river is the best choice of all. |
p*t 发帖数: 275 | 17 meloni is out of position. if that guy missed his draw, you wouldn't get
anything. you have to rerasie now to get something.
and check on river would catch him.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : If he call, the guy would bet on river for sure.If the guy bet $45, then : raise to $100, he has to call. : If he allin, the guy could call or fold.I guess 40% chance the guy would : call. : If the guy was bluffing, then allin would get nothing from him, but call and check on river would catch him. : : money
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 18 no and its not even close.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : I think call on turn and check on river is the best choice of all.
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p*t 发帖数: 275 | 19 river is bad, and you're out of position. I would check and prepare to call
his big bet.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : only J is diamond on the flop. : he raise me to 22$ on the turn.. : finally I select checked raise him to 66$, he called. : river is another K : KQJ3K now! : I chosed to all in the rest 136$ for this 136$ pot, since I can't fold he : call in( there all several kinds of full house there).
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p*t 发帖数: 275 | 20 your reasoning about the river bet makes sense.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : all in is fine, cause he still may call your bet with weaker hands. Check : is certainly wrong, cause you miss the chance to charge his weaker hands : and you only pay when you are beaten. Of course, if you can check and : fold a pot size bet by him, you can check. But the big laydown can be : wrong and super expensive as well. That's why all in reraise on turn : makes it simple.
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 21 i think its time to do a blocking bet.
call
【在 p*t 的大作中提到】 : river is bad, and you're out of position. I would check and prepare to call : his big bet.
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p*t 发帖数: 275 | 22 A blocking bet is better than a simple allin when:
1. he has you beat but decide to just call your blocking bet.
2. he has you beat and raise, then you fold. in this case you may get
bluffed, but less likely compared to check first.
This blocking bet can't be too small. It should look like a value bet.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : i think its time to do a blocking bet. : : call
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I**n 发帖数: 839 | 23 I only played twice in Vegas and had one similar hand.
1/2 nolimit game. Heads up with another deep stack.
I had AA with KQJT on the turn. The guy bet 100 into a 100 pot. I decide to
slow play it with my position. Call. Then river K he instant all in(about 300 for me too)!
I thought for a while and eventually threw my AA up, he showed me KJ as well. |
w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 24 For your case allin was better, since the pot was big enough.
If the guy didn't lose his mind, he should know you have at least one A, and
the odds to hit fullhouse was only 8%.
For the case here, the pot on turn was only $50, I would sure fold with a
set if someone allin, and let him take my $22.
to
300 for me too)!
well.
【在 I**n 的大作中提到】 : I only played twice in Vegas and had one similar hand. : 1/2 nolimit game. Heads up with another deep stack. : I had AA with KQJT on the turn. The guy bet 100 into a 100 pot. I decide to : slow play it with my position. Call. Then river K he instant all in(about 300 for me too)! : I thought for a while and eventually threw my AA up, he showed me KJ as well.
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m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 25 I all in on the river( which is a ok decisiton I think)
He called instantly showed KQ ful house( if I checked , he will all in for
sure, and I will call, this is simiar I all in on the turn and he called top
twopairs, either way I lost all my money) |
I**n 发帖数: 839 | 26 果然跟我那把一样 木筏子
top
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : I all in on the river( which is a ok decisiton I think) : He called instantly showed KQ ful house( if I checked , he will all in for : sure, and I will call, this is simiar I all in on the turn and he called top : twopairs, either way I lost all my money)
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 27 Because your bet on turn already made you pot committed.
You didn't allin on turn, but it was equal to allin.
Three options:
1.Allin.
The guy would most likely fold. You win $22 from him.
2.Reraise to $66.
The guy had 8% chance to hit fullhouse.
If he didn't hit,and then you allin, he would most likely to call .
Totally win $66+$136=about $200
If he hit, you lose $66+$136=about $200.
3.Call on turn and check on river, the guy would bet for sure.
If he didn't hit, then let's say he bet $50, and y |
I**n 发帖数: 839 | 28 1.Nothing is "for sure"
2.Raise or call are both ok.
3.It's poker
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : Because your bet on turn already made you pot committed. : You didn't allin on turn, but it was equal to allin. : Three options: : 1.Allin. : The guy would most likely fold. You win $22 from him. : 2.Reraise to $66. : The guy had 8% chance to hit fullhouse. : If he didn't hit,and then you allin, he would most likely to call . : Totally win $66+$136=about $200 : If he hit, you lose $66+$136=about $200.
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m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | |
w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 30 "for sure": take it in poker context.
Not the same meaning as in daily life.
【在 I**n 的大作中提到】 : 1.Nothing is "for sure" : 2.Raise or call are both ok. : 3.It's poker
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t***k 发帖数: 57 | 31 bet flop plz, bet turn , bet river.
as played, check raise 4 times on turn. |