y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 1 flop see, win rate.
Yesterday, I watch other guys play on 750K tourney, very deep about 120ppl
left.I check all those guys stats, flop see , win rate is 44%+(44%--
55%)almost all of them have the similar stats. I also watched 240$ buyin KO game on ftp, similar stats for the final 9 players.
(The stats is based on tournament, full table game)
While I check our stats, flop see, win rate is 35%.
Which means we have fewer chance to win, and I do not play very well on flop play. Maybe the optimal pla | i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 2 this stats will need a very large sample size to back it up.
also it shouldn't have too much difference from W$SD, unless there's a ton o
f hands that going to showdown are preflop all-in.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: flop see, win rate.
: Yesterday, I watch other guys play on 750K tourney, very deep about 120ppl
: left.I check all those guys stats, flop see , win rate is 44%+(44%--
: 55%)almost all of them have the similar stats. I also watched 240$ buyin KO game on ftp, similar stats for the final 9 players.
: (The stats is based on tournament, full table game)
: While I check our stats, flop see, win rate is 35%.
: Which means we have fewer chance to win, and I do not play very well on flop play. Maybe the optimal pla
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 W$SD is important(,because all your winning related to this stat), but I find my W$SD is similar with pros.
but flop see, w$SD is so different.
if all good online player has 44%---55% (flop see, W$SD), then we need pay
attention to it.
I guess this stats related with (flop see, aggr rate), because if you can win pot with aggression or using the hand, that makes the difference.
The following is pros' stats on W$SD
player----------Total Prizes----ROI--------flop-SD------W$SD
shaundeeb-----$466,400 | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 4 怎么看这个stats? 什么是flop see win at showdown? 是说如果是55%,你100次见flop
,然后其中55次showdown 赢了?
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: flop see, win rate.
: Yesterday, I watch other guys play on 750K tourney, very deep about 120ppl
: left.I check all those guys stats, flop see , win rate is 44%+(44%--
: 55%)almost all of them have the similar stats. I also watched 240$ buyin KO game on ftp, similar stats for the final 9 players.
: (The stats is based on tournament, full table game)
: While I check our stats, flop see, win rate is 35%.
: Which means we have fewer chance to win, and I do not play very well on flop play. Maybe the optimal pla
| c********e
发帖数: 267 | | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 6 Players who have good read are 更有战斗力 and have high rate of see flop win showdown.
That is not strange. | c********e
发帖数: 267 | 7 那如果不SHOW DOWN呢，看了FLOP然后FOLD了，算在里面吗 | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 8 看了FLOP然后FOLD,跟运气有关(flop到臭牌就得fold)
win at showdown跟判断能力有关.你跟别人showdown而且输了,说明你对形势判断错误.
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 那如果不SHOW DOWN呢，看了FLOP然后FOLD了，算在里面吗
| c********e
发帖数: 267 | 9 所以就是fold了的时候不算在win at show down这里，只是不明白而已 | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 10 应该是吧.
fold虽然算输,但不是输在showdown.
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 所以就是fold了的时候不算在win at show down这里，只是不明白而已
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 Sorry for my mistake.
That rate should be (flop see, win rate)
The definition is
Win % when See Flop = (Flop Wins + Turn Wins + River Wins) / Flops Seen
Similarly, there is a stats relate to (flop see, fold rate)
Fold % When See Flop = (Flop Folds + Turn Folds + River Folds) / Flops Seen
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 所以就是fold了的时候不算在win at show down这里，只是不明白而已
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 12 Sorry for my mistake. You can download PT3 for trial.
And look at that stats.
I test poker-edge now. It has a database to collect all kinds of stats
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 应该是吧.
: fold虽然算输,但不是输在showdown.
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