i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 1 发现周围一个小casino,可以打texasholdem,去了几次，已经上手了
最近4天每天都去，战绩是总共赢了大约6000美金，最好的一次是buy in 350(busted
once for first buy in of 150),cash out 大约2400，最糟的一次是even out with
20 profit（busted a few times maximum downside is 800)
每次2到10个小时，去了5次。 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 very nice!
share some key hands.
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: 发现周围一个小casino,可以打texasholdem,去了几次，已经上手了
: 最近4天每天都去，战绩是总共赢了大约6000美金，最好的一次是buy in 350(busted
: once for first buy in of 150),cash out 大约2400，最糟的一次是even out with
: 20 profit（busted a few times maximum downside is 800)
: 每次2到10个小时，去了5次。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 nice.
Nowadays, I am ups and downs, ups and downs.
Today is so shitty, first 2 hours win 200, then begin to lose(-280$) in 1.5
hours. always flops a set, then lose to a str8(gut ball)
Hand#2043012266000123 - NFL PRIMETIME XI (6-max) 12266 -- $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em -- 2009/11/07 - 17:11:30
Seat 2: true***2 ($33.25 in chips) DEALER
Seat 3: newlife3 ($77.44 in chips)
Seat 8: jack***8 ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 9: mike***9 ($73.47 in chips)
Seat 10: fath***10 ($20 in chips)
newlife3: posts small blind $
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: 发现周围一个小casino,可以打texasholdem,去了几次，已经上手了
: 最近4天每天都去，战绩是总共赢了大约6000美金，最好的一次是buy in 350(busted
: once for first buy in of 150),cash out 大约2400，最糟的一次是even out with
: 20 profit（busted a few times maximum downside is 800)
: 每次2到10个小时，去了5次。
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 4 key hands? mainly bad beat I could remember as key hands 2 AA got cracked by
same idiot. one kk got cracked by a quad 6.
did a lot of bluffing and big fold. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 5 need learn the game from you.
By the way, what is your estimated VPIP, and preflop raise percentage? and
what is your aggression factor?
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: 发现周围一个小casino,可以打texasholdem,去了几次，已经上手了
: 最近4天每天都去，战绩是总共赢了大约6000美金，最好的一次是buy in 350(busted
: once for first buy in of 150),cash out 大约2400，最糟的一次是even out with
: 20 profit（busted a few times maximum downside is 800)
: 每次2到10个小时，去了5次。
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 6 I am still new. Depends on the player and my stack size I make decision on
the raise.
I did lost on saturday night for another trip.
The table has two experienced random player, I havn't learnt the way how to
play against those type of players.
Say, they raise out of position with 26o 7To etc, and made me very hard to
put them on a hand after the flop. I lost 4 big premium hands JJ, AKs, AA,
AKs to trash and lost over 800 bucks. The AA was a mistake not raising
enough, the guy called me with Q3o
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: need learn the game from you.
: By the way, what is your estimated VPIP, and preflop raise percentage? and
: what is your aggression factor?
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 7 for this kinda top pair on the flop case, it is better to do check raise
instead of flat bet out, jimho.
5
Hold'em -- 2009/11/07 - 17:11:30
busted
with
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: nice.
: Nowadays, I am ups and downs, ups and downs.
: Today is so shitty, first 2 hours win 200, then begin to lose(-280$) in 1.5
: hours. always flops a set, then lose to a str8(gut ball)
: Hand#2043012266000123 - NFL PRIMETIME XI (6-max) 12266 -- $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em -- 2009/11/07 - 17:11:30
: Seat 2: true***2 ($33.25 in chips) DEALER
: Seat 3: newlife3 ($77.44 in chips)
: Seat 8: jack***8 ($22.75 in chips)
: Seat 9: mike***9 ($73.47 in chips)
: Seat 10: fath***10 ($20 in chips)
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 8 I think the very very very critical point in live cash game is to avoid very
experienced players to avoid some headache and tough situation. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 you know what. My hand is not that strong. Check raise is dangerous. All
hand that I can beat will fold, all hands which beats me will stay in the
pot. That is why I lead out.
Lead out in this scenario is to control the pot.
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: for this kinda top pair on the flop case, it is better to do check raise
: instead of flat bet out, jimho.
:
: 5
: Hold'em -- 2009/11/07 - 17:11:30
: busted
: with
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 10 why dangeous? if he reraise u, u could fold | | | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 It turns my hand into a bluff. And put more money into the pot.
I lead out to see what the opponent's action is, and evaluate my hand
strength.
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: why dangeous? if he reraise u, u could fold
| D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 12 真的假的？
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: 发现周围一个小casino,可以打texasholdem,去了几次，已经上手了
: 最近4天每天都去，战绩是总共赢了大约6000美金，最好的一次是buy in 350(busted
: once for first buy in of 150),cash out 大约2400，最糟的一次是even out with
: 20 profit（busted a few times maximum downside is 800)
: 每次2到10个小时，去了5次。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 13 sure, it is real.
20-30buyins.
【在 D*****A 的大作中提到】
: 真的假的？
| D*****A
发帖数: 551 | | i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 15 I don't try to play big tournament, justbto avoid against good players, also
it take too much time for tournament. | l******1
发帖数: 365 | 16 呵呵，运气好差不多。我一哥们去赌场一小时赢了2600. buy in 200. 2/5 nl。
flush 干掉set，fully house干掉flush 诸如此类。
coin flip差不多都赢。
【在 D*****A 的大作中提到】
: 我還是有點兒。。。
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 17 sunday night played one more session and lost quickly.
I did a relatively big buy in 400, got busted within half hour.
The major hands is the KK and I tried to play sneaky even at button (turned
to be stupid)
someone raised to 20, and mid position called and I just flat called.
flop, 46T , possible spade draw, early position bet 50, mid position raised
100, I flat called again, turn is 2 of spade, I tried to push the rest 100+
and the mid position shake head and called.
turned out to be he has t | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 well, if you assume he's a tight player, then your play is confusing to me,
what do you put him on?
you slow roll KK, like we discussed yesterday in another thread, it's fine
sometimes. but on the flop, after someone bets $50, almost pot ($60), and
another "tight" one mini-raises to $100, pot is now $210, you only got ~$200
left, you only call? in another word, you really believe you're still ahead
with 1 over pair against 2 players' strong action, and at least one player
is "tight"? after you c
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: sunday night played one more session and lost quickly.
: I did a relatively big buy in 400, got busted within half hour.
: The major hands is the KK and I tried to play sneaky even at button (turned
: to be stupid)
: someone raised to 20, and mid position called and I just flat called.
: flop, 46T , possible spade draw, early position bet 50, mid position raised
: 100, I flat called again, turn is 2 of spade, I tried to push the rest 100+
: and the mid position shake head and called.
: turned out to be he has t
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 19 it is poorly played, but I have all the reasons:
on the flop, the call is to let the raiser to call, I put him on suited 10J
or high Ace (like AJ) or even a mid Ace, like A8s etc.
on the turn, there only two player left, i put the one as ATs, or JJ or QQ.
I don't want JJ or QQ to draw the last spade, also if he has AA without
spade, he may have to fold. 100 is enough to let someone to fold for that
pot. Of course, he got two pairs, he will call.
,
200
ahead
player
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, if you assume he's a tight player, then your play is confusing to me,
: what do you put him on?
: you slow roll KK, like we discussed yesterday in another thread, it's fine
: sometimes. but on the flop, after someone bets $50, almost pot ($60), and
: another "tight" one mini-raises to $100, pot is now $210, you only got ~$200
: left, you only call? in another word, you really believe you're still ahead
: with 1 over pair against 2 players' strong action, and at least one player
: is "tight"? after you c
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 i see.
but here's the problem:
1) on the flop, when you call, you don't know what the first bettor will do
yet (after he bets out $50), when you call, you give him great odds to stay
too, he only needs to put another $50 to take a shot at a $310 pot or 1:6
odds (great). AND, since he bets $50 first out of position for a $60 pot, it
's very reasonable to believe he got a hand (better than 1:6 hands) in most
cases.
if both stay, KK is not strong as we might think at all.
2) on the turn, $100 is no
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: it is poorly played, but I have all the reasons:
: on the flop, the call is to let the raiser to call, I put him on suited 10J
: or high Ace (like AJ) or even a mid Ace, like A8s etc.
: on the turn, there only two player left, i put the one as ATs, or JJ or QQ.
: I don't want JJ or QQ to draw the last spade, also if he has AA without
: spade, he may have to fold. 100 is enough to let someone to fold for that
: pot. Of course, he got two pairs, he will call.
:
: ,
: 200
| | | c***a
发帖数: 309 | 21 Hey, I would go all-in after flop if you are confident on your Ks.
turned
raised
+
I
【在 i*****e 的大作中提到】
: sunday night played one more session and lost quickly.
: I did a relatively big buy in 400, got busted within half hour.
: The major hands is the KK and I tried to play sneaky even at button (turned
: to be stupid)
: someone raised to 20, and mid position called and I just flat called.
: flop, 46T , possible spade draw, early position bet 50, mid position raised
: 100, I flat called again, turn is 2 of spade, I tried to push the rest 100+
: and the mid position shake head and called.
: turned out to be he has t
| i*****e
发帖数: 55 | 22 the raise on the flop was $100 over $40, it is a decent sized raise, and
that is why I put him on AT..
but obiously it is a wrong read..
I probably won't slow play AA/KK beyond flop as well in the future.. too
dangerous.
do
stay
it
most
QQ.
that
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i see.
: but here's the problem:
: 1) on the flop, when you call, you don't know what the first bettor will do
: yet (after he bets out $50), when you call, you give him great odds to stay
: too, he only needs to put another $50 to take a shot at a $310 pot or 1:6
: odds (great). AND, since he bets $50 first out of position for a $60 pot, it
: 's very reasonable to believe he got a hand (better than 1:6 hands) in most
: cases.
: if both stay, KK is not strong as we might think at all.
: 2) on the turn, $100 is no
| w*********i
发帖数: 3092 | 23 I have the similar experiences. Some loose and aggressive regular in the
local casino. They like to play some rags(esp low cards). Usually they will
connect the flop quite well for a straight or two pairs.
Once I raise with Qs and the guy out of position called me.
His 59o rivered a straight and win about $200 in a hand.
They usually play with big stack though. When you raised and you might get
yourself in a big trap. So my suggestion might be get a big raise with
position when you have a good m | n**********5
发帖数: 60 | 24 Fry king, it is not called slow rolling KK. It is called slow playing. Slow
rolling is a totally different thing and lacks poker etiquette. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 25 oh, i thought they were the same.
Slow
【在 n**********5 的大作中提到】
: Fry king, it is not called slow rolling KK. It is called slow playing. Slow
: rolling is a totally different thing and lacks poker etiquette.
| l******n
发帖数: 641 | 26 rolling means pretend to thinking hard before calling, while holding nuts.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: oh, i thought they were the same.
:
: Slow
| c***a
发帖数: 309 | 27 it's called hollywood action.
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: rolling means pretend to thinking hard before calling, while holding nuts.
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