f*f
发帖数: 121 | 1 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
扑克玩家的成长
这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
多数人来说是差不多的。
级别1：
刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
级别2：
看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
flop上有什么牌，对每个人的动作只记得是bet/check/raise, 不在意下注的大小，
大家的位置，stack 大小，等等。这时候记得的牌多半是AA/KK 这种牌。
级别3：
玩了上万手牌了，输了一些，这是一个分界线，有些人输了就放弃了，或者自认为
自己是运气不好，这些人可能觉得自己玩的挺好， 在他的脑子里他是按照书上写的方
法玩的(其实多半不是)，这些人可能永远停在这个级别了。
另一些人会多想想，再回去仔细看看资料，原来不明白的东西可能现在开始觉得的确
有道理了， |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 2 攒啊,我们台需要pro的指点了. fcf能谈谈对rush poker的体会么,最近我只玩rush
poker,一般的都觉得太慢了,玩起来没意思,rush poker也是3个桌子一起. 赚点数倒是
超快,swing也大,一下子10个buy-in的起伏都有,呵呵. 蛮刺激的 .
大牛收不收徒弟啊,我要拜师!
tight
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
: 扑克玩家的成长
: 这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
: 多数人来说是差不多的。
: 级别1：
: 刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
: 级别2：
: 看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
: aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
: 牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 3 I played a little bit of rush poker at 100nl and 200nl level. 100nl seemed
pretty easy, players generally playing too tight there, so I would just open
almost every CO/BTN and play position after flop. 200nl seemed much
tougher as it is the highest level right now, I see many players who usually
play 5/10+ in there messing around, it's much harder to apply pressure
against these players for several reason:
1) 200bb there really doesn't mean much to them
2) As I know them, they probably have |
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 4 高手啊，听听就长见识。
啥时推荐几本书，我想学习一下。 发现我在Level 2。 |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 5 受教了...
那么多少buy-in可以尝试去100nl 玩玩呢? 现在才15,6个buyin是不是太少了,还是在
50NL继续build一些?
seemed
open
usually
,
to
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: I played a little bit of rush poker at 100nl and 200nl level. 100nl seemed
: pretty easy, players generally playing too tight there, so I would just open
: almost every CO/BTN and play position after flop. 200nl seemed much
: tougher as it is the highest level right now, I see many players who usually
: play 5/10+ in there messing around, it's much harder to apply pressure
: against these players for several reason:
: 1) 200bb there really doesn't mean much to them
: 2) As I know them, they probably have
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 in his book, dusty recommends 100 buy-ins and says other pros may do 50.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 受教了...
: 那么多少buy-in可以尝试去100nl 玩玩呢? 现在才15,6个buyin是不是太少了,还是在
: 50NL继续build一些?
:
: seemed
: open
: usually
: ,
: to
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 7 靠,那看来要先grind到10k刀...才能100NL,ft,那按照他的标准我应该去打10NL......
老大bankroll多打啊,嘿嘿,偷偷透露一下吧
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: in his book, dusty recommends 100 buy-ins and says other pros may do 50.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 me? about $4K ($2K at FTP) online.
pro? hoho, he showed pokeryjj and me his chart for this jan., $68K profit...
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 靠,那看来要先grind到10k刀...才能100NL,ft,那按照他的标准我应该去打10NL......
: 老大bankroll多打啊,嘿嘿,偷偷透露一下吧
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 9 哦,那我先grind到2k再去100nl试试看吧
你说的pro是谁? fcf? 我以为你说那个书的作者呢...
rush game真是刷ironman的无敌利器啊,我3个桌子50nl,1个多小时一天,500点
..
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: me? about $4K ($2K at FTP) online.
: pro? hoho, he showed pokeryjj and me his chart for this jan., $68K profit...
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 10 what do you mean by "偷盲注并不是一点小钱"? The win is not small or the loss
of your steal (get 3-bet) is not small? I guess it's the former? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 12 我估计自己在3-4之间
tight
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
: 扑克玩家的成长
: 这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
: 多数人来说是差不多的。
: 级别1：
: 刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
: 级别2：
: 看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
: aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
: 牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 fcf, watching him playing 750K guarantee sunday now... hoho.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 哦,那我先grind到2k再去100nl试试看吧
: 你说的pro是谁? fcf? 我以为你说那个书的作者呢...
: rush game真是刷ironman的无敌利器啊,我3个桌子50nl,1个多小时一天,500点
:
: ..
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 俺看过的最全面的贴子，而且还是中文。
难得fcf过来指导！
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 狠牛啊. 写得很好.
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 15 I remember when I first started, and checking in PT where I tried to steal
the blinds. I was making 88bb/100 in those hands. So I increased my steal
% from 20% to something close to 40% and it must increased my winrate by a
few BB/100. And I started defending my button religiously, if you want to
steal from CO and I am on the button, I will 3bet or call you and generally
try to make your life as terrible as possible so you don't do that next time
:)
loss
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: what do you mean by "偷盲注并不是一点小钱"? The win is not small or the loss
: of your steal (get 3-bet) is not small? I guess it's the former?
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 nice, always put your opponents in a tough spot, something i can't do well,
lol.
steal
generally
time
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: I remember when I first started, and checking in PT where I tried to steal
: the blinds. I was making 88bb/100 in those hands. So I increased my steal
: % from 20% to something close to 40% and it must increased my winrate by a
: few BB/100. And I started defending my button religiously, if you want to
: steal from CO and I am on the button, I will 3bet or call you and generally
: try to make your life as terrible as possible so you don't do that next time
: :)
:
: loss
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 This is a very good strategy to 3 bets or call CO opens at button.
I saw you said that you are loose preflop and tight after flop.
what would be your basic strategy after flop if your reraise gets called?
It really seems that your hand does not matter any more at this spot.
for example,
1) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop everyone checks and you
have air
2) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
and you have air
3) you called, bb also called for
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: I remember when I first started, and checking in PT where I tried to steal
: the blinds. I was making 88bb/100 in those hands. So I increased my steal
: % from 20% to something close to 40% and it must increased my winrate by a
: few BB/100. And I started defending my button religiously, if you want to
: steal from CO and I am on the button, I will 3bet or call you and generally
: try to make your life as terrible as possible so you don't do that next time
: :)
:
: loss
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 fcf 大牛。if you don't want to share your strategy in public, you could just
PM me and whoever is interested.
call
call
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: This is a very good strategy to 3 bets or call CO opens at button.
: I saw you said that you are loose preflop and tight after flop.
: what would be your basic strategy after flop if your reraise gets called?
: It really seems that your hand does not matter any more at this spot.
: for example,
: 1) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop everyone checks and you
: have air
: 2) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
: and you have air
: 3) you called, bb also called for
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 20 自己玩了25000手，3700手赢牌，90%的夜晚都是赢钱，
总共赢了240个米的假钱，到这里才发现需要开始看书，
第一章fundemental，就学了一些很有用的东西，开始步入级别2了。 |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 21 很牛
tight
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
: 扑克玩家的成长
: 这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
: 多数人来说是差不多的。
: 级别1：
: 刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
: 级别2：
: 看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
: aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
: 牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 22 赞大牛， 以后给我们这些新手多多指教。
tight
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
: 扑克玩家的成长
: 这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
: 多数人来说是差不多的。
: 级别1：
: 刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
: 级别2：
: 看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
: aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
: 牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 23 从2月底注册在FTP上玩了快6个月，终于达到了+5k的milestone。昨天今天又仔细的看
了一遍大虾的这个帖子，句句是真言啊。再拜一下。
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
: 扑克玩家的成长
: 这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
: 多数人来说是差不多的。
: 级别1：
: 刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
: 级别2：
: 看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
: aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
: 牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 very nice earning
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 从2月底注册在FTP上玩了快6个月，终于达到了+5k的milestone。昨天今天又仔细的看
: 了一遍大虾的这个帖子，句句是真言啊。再拜一下。
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t*********t
发帖数: 1058 | |
L****n
发帖数: 490 | |
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 Lundon, which level are you in now???
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: 写得太好了。每个Level都很贴切。
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 28
I'd say 4. Getting into 5. It seems very hard to get level 6 though as fcf
said. 30 buyins swing at 400NL would be too much for me.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Lundon, which level are you in now???
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 29 不错了，way to go， 我觉得我就是在2，天天乱打
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: I'd say 4. Getting into 5. It seems very hard to get level 6 though as fcf
: said. 30 buyins swing at 400NL would be too much for me.
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 30
乱打都挣了一万多。。。。那你好好打，钱途无量阿
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 不错了，way to go， 我觉得我就是在2，天天乱打
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 31 I am in the same boat, between level 4 and level 5, more toward level 5.
I guess the suffering part of poker is the downswing. I should say sometimes
I feel I do nothing wrong, but the result just goes the opposite.
I have some downswings recently also.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: 乱打都挣了一万多。。。。那你好好打，钱途无量阿
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 32 哪有，快输了1w多了。。。。
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: 乱打都挣了一万多。。。。那你好好打，钱途无量阿
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 33 I think I am in level 4...
sometimes
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I am in the same boat, between level 4 and level 5, more toward level 5.
: I guess the suffering part of poker is the downswing. I should say sometimes
: I feel I do nothing wrong, but the result just goes the opposite.
: I have some downswings recently also.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 34 看看我2月的问题，好像自己就能回答了。。 hoho..
今非昔比啊。。。 |
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 35 1) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop everyone checks and you
have air
2) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
and you have air
3) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
and you have middle or small pair
4)you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot or pot
size CO call and you have top pair of 10 but very weak kicker.
5) you 3 bet, CO calls, after flop CO checks you have air
6) you 3 bets, CO calls, after flop CO lead half pot, you have air or middle
pair
7) you 3 bets, CO calls after flop CO leads pot, you have air middle pair
8) you 3 bets, CO calls after flop CO leads pot, you have top pair of 10 and
weak kicker
for fullring？
来牛人讲解下你悟出的答案 |
l*k
发帖数: 87 | |
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 38 哎，都是牛人，level 0的飘过
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 我追我追我追追 level 3.5
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