W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 1 I almost lost track of the time on this special month. I have played NL
holdem for 1 year exactly after I put in my first deposit on FTP May 7th
2009. Firstly, I need to thank yost on this board who introduce me to the
game and ftp. Secondly, I need to thank on-line poker to let me play as many
hands in a year as some live player can play in their whole life and turn
me into a winning player. Thirdly, I need to thank rush poker who make me a
winning cash player. Last but not the least I need to |
f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 2 FT,俺这3年算是白玩了,蜗牛都拿WSOP了。
many
a
yesterday
and half
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I almost lost track of the time on this special month. I have played NL : holdem for 1 year exactly after I put in my first deposit on FTP May 7th : 2009. Firstly, I need to thank yost on this board who introduce me to the : game and ftp. Secondly, I need to thank on-line poker to let me play as many : hands in a year as some live player can play in their whole life and turn : me into a winning player. Thirdly, I need to thank rush poker who make me a : winning cash player. Last but not the least I need to
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D*****A 发帖数: 551 | 4 你的bankroll是怎么控制的?
many
a
yesterday
and half
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I almost lost track of the time on this special month. I have played NL : holdem for 1 year exactly after I put in my first deposit on FTP May 7th : 2009. Firstly, I need to thank yost on this board who introduce me to the : game and ftp. Secondly, I need to thank on-line poker to let me play as many : hands in a year as some live player can play in their whole life and turn : me into a winning player. Thirdly, I need to thank rush poker who make me a : winning cash player. Last but not the least I need to
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 5 I play under roll most of the time. But I don't think we should get carried
away by bankroll management. Bankkroll management will not turn you into a
winning player, but it can protect a winning player from go broke from
downswings. It is useful if you 1) go up too fast 2) play at a level where
you can't afford to lose.
For most of us who hang around at microstake, we really have infinite bank
roll. For example, if you could afford to lose 200$ a month and you play
NL50$ and you always come
【在 D*****A 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的bankroll是怎么控制的? : : many : a : yesterday : and half
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 6 bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may
June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me).
在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
今年grind rush poker 的进程.
1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$
1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$
5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$
7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100 |
d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 7 very nice progress
也请前辈谈谈经验 在同一级别同一类型cash桌上 磨5万手 和 磨50万手 的差别 |
y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 8 I guess you can progress a little quicker.
I am also considering move up one level.
希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may : June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me). : 在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级 : 今年grind rush poker 的进程. : 1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$ : 1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$ : 5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$ : 7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 9 Nitty bankroll management.
My biggest strength; also my biggest weakness.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess you can progress a little quicker. : I am also considering move up one level. : : 希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
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t********t 发帖数: 5415 | 10 1周打18k?开多少桌啊?还是multi-entry rush?
希望
今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may : June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me). : 在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级 : 今年grind rush poker 的进程. : 1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$ : 1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$ : 5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$ : 7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 11 he plays 2 tables rush, that would take about 3-4 hours each day for 2000
hands.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1周打18k?开多少桌啊?还是multi-entry rush? : : 希望 : 今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 12 NL50很成功,可能是俺们这里最好的。
希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may : June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me). : 在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级 : 今年grind rush poker 的进程. : 1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$ : 1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$ : 5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$ : 7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 13 俺也有这个问题,很难broke,但是也很难win big。
其实知道这个stake输赢都是点小钱,但是摆脱不了太在意的毛病,最后想赢怕输的心
态导致weak,或者盲目冲动。
The Poker Blueprint作者讲的好,真正成功的往往都比较年轻,赌性大,提高也快,
中间可能被整死了几次,比如cardplayer有个小子,两次从100K给打回2K的bankroll,
但是最终人家还是越飞越高,学bankroll management比学习技术还是要容易得多。
年轻输得起,拖家带口的,一晚上成千上万的进出,以中人之资,业余投入,实在应付
不了那种压力。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Nitty bankroll management. : My biggest strength; also my biggest weakness.
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a*****h 发帖数: 2182 | 14 你这个盈利不包括rakeback和bonus吧,很好了
希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may : June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me). : 在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级 : 今年grind rush poker 的进程. : 1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$ : 1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$ : 5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$ : 7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 15 bankroll management nitty 一点, 升级还是可以的. 就是慢一点..升到NL200肯定没
问题, 再往上, swing太大, 可能应付不了那压力, 不过到时候还是要试一试.
NL50 其实赢率完全可以高一点的. 5bb/100-8bb/100 应该不难.. 我6-7月的下风期太
长了,看了看我的ev曲线, 只有7月初一个多星期打得不好, 其他ev线还算consistent..
最后升级前3,4天, ftp ev 还欠了我5 6百,结果我一怒之下升了级...
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俺也有这个问题,很难broke,但是也很难win big。 : 其实知道这个stake输赢都是点小钱,但是摆脱不了太在意的毛病,最后想赢怕输的心 : 态导致weak,或者盲目冲动。 : The Poker Blueprint作者讲的好,真正成功的往往都比较年轻,赌性大,提高也快, : 中间可能被整死了几次,比如cardplayer有个小子,两次从100K给打回2K的bankroll, : 但是最终人家还是越飞越高,学bankroll management比学习技术还是要容易得多。 : 年轻输得起,拖家带口的,一晚上成千上万的进出,以中人之资,业余投入,实在应付 : 不了那种压力。
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 16 total bank roll 包括.. 分项列的不包括..
【在 a*****h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你这个盈利不包括rakeback和bonus吧,很好了 : : 希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
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t********t 发帖数: 5415 | 18 ...一天4小时??上班族哪来的这么多时间?
2000
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : he plays 2 tables rush, that would take about 3-4 hours each day for 2000 : hands.
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 19 avg., he may play more on weekends. on week days, 2+ hours are minimum to
reach this volume.
if we play poker seriously, it's indeed another job, many young guns play
poker full time or 80 hours/week. even for part timers, 20-40 is normal.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ...一天4小时??上班族哪来的这么多时间? : : 2000
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y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 20 yeah.
BodogAri says he plays around 18 hours per day. Pretty sicko.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : avg., he may play more on weekends. on week days, 2+ hours are minimum to : reach this volume. : if we play poker seriously, it's indeed another job, many young guns play : poker full time or 80 hours/week. even for part timers, 20-40 is normal.
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 21 play 9pm-12pm some weekdays, can play more on weekend. 17.5k/9 =1944hand
per day. 2 table rush is only 3 hour max on average every day. around 700-800 hand an hour 2 table rush probably for me.
I can probably grind out more per day but I feel i play too much nowadays. I am cutting it back significantly..
on a weekend day you can play 3500 hand easily if you want to. See the graph below on one day of the weekend.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ...一天4小时??上班族哪来的这么多时间? : : 2000
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c*****a 发帖数: 447 | 22 wow. that is really nice.
希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may : June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me). : 在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级 : 今年grind rush poker 的进程. : 1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$ : 1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$ : 5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$ : 7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100
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c*****a 发帖数: 447 | 23 I have a question about those lines. I finally start to climb back up
after the huge down swing. But my non showdown winning line took a norse
dive. does that mean I fold too much? or called with too many average
starting hands?
..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bankroll management nitty 一点, 升级还是可以的. 就是慢一点..升到NL200肯定没 : 问题, 再往上, swing太大, 可能应付不了那压力, 不过到时候还是要试一试. : NL50 其实赢率完全可以高一点的. 5bb/100-8bb/100 应该不难.. 我6-7月的下风期太 : 长了,看了看我的ev曲线, 只有7月初一个多星期打得不好, 其他ev线还算consistent.. : 最后升级前3,4天, ftp ev 还欠了我5 6百,结果我一怒之下升了级...
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 24 most winning reg's non-showdown red line goes down from losing at blinds. I
think it is ok to have a curve down redline as long as it is not too steep.
Here is COW on 2+2 i have linked before. It should help you understand the
red line.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/cotw-last-red-line-post-ever-791734/
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I have a question about those lines. I finally start to climb back up : after the huge down swing. But my non showdown winning line took a norse : dive. does that mean I fold too much? or called with too many average : starting hands? : : ..
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c**********l 发帖数: 606 | 25 cool bro! keep us posted. i also need to get out of my nitty BR rule (
200BI for PLO), or i should use half of my NW as my BR, lol.
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c*****a 发帖数: 447 | 26 thx so much. that really helps. I probably got bored with stealing blinds
at rush. It is much eaiser to steal blinds in rush but have to wait
forever. Now I click quick fold rather than wait for those people to fold
so slowly.
I
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : most winning reg's non-showdown red line goes down from losing at blinds. I : think it is ok to have a curve down redline as long as it is not too steep. : Here is COW on 2+2 i have linked before. It should help you understand the : red line. : http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/cotw-last-red-line-post-ever-791734/
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