B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 1 假设都是100bb的样子，对手unknown,utg+2 raise, hero sb KK 3-bet, utg+2 4-bet
35bb左右，你们都是100% shove么。我怎么总撞AA啊，不知道是不是leak...... | x**y
发帖数: 33 | 2 Yes unless I know utg+2 is a super tight/passive guy who never 4 bet
anything worse than KK.
fold is almost always not an option. So what do you expect to do on flop
with 35bb already in if you just call?
A lot of times you'll see AA, but that's your luck. | G********r
发帖数: 666 | 3 "对手unknown" -- this is a killer of them all.... unless you just sit down,
you should have a rough idea and ideally a good read to decide whether
facing a large 4-bet preflop potential all-in flop bet you need to lay it
down preflop (yes, occasionally you need to lay down KK preflop; sometimes
it is quite obvious your opponent has AA, but I'm sure a lot of folks would
disagree and laugh at me here. lol. This is easier done in live games as
you get a read from body languages, which you get none online), otherwise
you'll be forced to call at least; with no information on your opponent
whatsoever (which is actually unlikely), you virtually commit yourself after
calling a preflop 4-bet so you might as well shove and pray he doesn't have
that only hand you fear... | d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 hud 开起来，只fold给 known super 紧弱，just my 2 cent
有人说 pf aa对kk的几率小于0.1%, UNKNOWN的话shove brainlessly | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 shove pre with KK so i can sleep better at night knowing that I didn't
fold to AK or QQ.
Or you can flat 4 bet and shove flop. | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 nowadays, AK KK AA 我preflop 都当AA 打。。 lol.. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 Several times, I 3bet KK In position, UTG+2 4bet. I suspect he has AA, and
flats. FLOP t82, I told me myself folding, but can not help doing sth stupid
, go allin.
But Late position's 4bet contains more AK.
bet
【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: 假设都是100bb的样子，对手unknown,utg+2 raise, hero sb KK 3-bet, utg+2 4-bet
: 35bb左右，你们都是100% shove么。我怎么总撞AA啊，不知道是不是leak......
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 8 It depends on villain's position and stack size. Short stack can shove your 3 bet with light range. EP tends to 4 bet more with value hands than Later position. It depends on your image as well. If your 3 bet percentage is too narrow, then villain's 4 bet range is mostly AA,KK. Unless villain is a maniac. |
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