W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 1 对手是个tight reg. 1.3k hand history with vpip 11 6 2.3
one of the notes i have on him
"3 bet with pocket Js and check set flop... and pot turn and pot river"
I 3 bet this hand preflop with AQo to isolate MP. Villian flat behind. He is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA KK. So these two hand needs to weight less in the range especially AA.
Now on the flop, i didn't hit anything. Vs villian's range, I didn't have much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to check and give up. he checked behind.
Turn I made top pair, MP check again so i didn't think he had anything. I bet to protect my equity in the pot. Villian calls. MP folds. River made a flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set. But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with sets on turn with QQ JJ and probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value. With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh. Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most of the time. The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
really thin value bet. The rest are bluffs and hands I beat. So I called and he showed a bluff.
Regs have a lot of tell in their sizing. Use it to your advantage
======================================================
Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
UTG+2: $34.00
MP1: $123.55
Hero (MP2): $100.00
CO: $108.55
BTN: $125.65
SB: $140.70
BB: $141.70
UTG: $40.00
UTG+1: $431.90
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with Ac Qs
3 folds, MP1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $10, 3 folds, MP1
calls $7
Flop: ($31.50) 5h Jh 2s (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: ($31.50) Qd (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14, MP1 folds
River: ($59.50) 3h (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30.00, Hero calls $30
Final Pot: $119.50
Hero shows Ac Qs
CO shows Ah Kd
Hero wins $116.50
(Rake: $3.00) | T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 2 actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
part the ppl I am afraid of is those loose goose player. especially those
flop seems wet.
against such a tight player with vpip 10 and pfr 6 and c-3-bet 45, the card
he can call your three bet come down to this: pair jj or higher , Ak suited
or off-suited. that is it. that construct to be 3% of ranges which he can
all your 3-bet range.
AA or Kk is less likely since he face a raise and reraise before him as a
tight reg, he is smart enough to under stand not to slow play this hand.
And he absolutely won't check behind on the flop and give u guys a free card
when flush dr is on the board.
jj is unlikely too because if he hit his monster and he suspect you have aa
or kk , he will bet rather than check. he absolutely wont check on the turn
also.
so his range comes down to Aks or AKo or QQ. on the flop he may check also
because he is afraid of you slow play AA or KK, but the flop Q solve a lot
things. y have q already. so the chance of he has two other qq are very
slim and he definitely will bet when in position. he has to try to make
some money, right?
based on pre, flop and turn action, the only hand beats you is exactly AKh.
so it is a good call.
the ppl im afraid of is those loose play. you will have a tough time to
figure out their range and in thier range there are alot of flush card or
connectors so a draw heavy board will be worry some. not to tight player
whose range mostly consist of high pair and big A cards, a lot less dr card
to worry about.
also if i were him, i will take shot at flop and turn rather than the river
because of the leverage. they have to worry about the second bullet or
third bullet especially they already showed weakness out of position. if
get called, I will see the turn and see what happens.
is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I
suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA KK. So these two hand needs
to weight less in the range especially AA.
much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to
check and give up. he checked behind.
bet to protect my equity in the pot. Villian calls. MP folds. River made a
flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by
worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped
and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set.
But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on
turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with se: ts on turn with QQ JJ and
probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value.
With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh.
Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most
of the time. The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
and he showed a bluff.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 对手是个tight reg. 1.3k hand history with vpip 11 6 2.3
: one of the notes i have on him
: "3 bet with pocket Js and check set flop... and pot turn and pot river"
: I 3 bet this hand preflop with AQo to isolate MP. Villian flat behind. He is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA KK. So these two hand needs to weight less in the range especially AA.
: Now on the flop, i didn't hit anything. Vs villian's range, I didn't have much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to check and give up. he checked behind.
: Turn I made top pair, MP check again so i didn't think he had anything. I bet to protect my equity in the pot. Villian calls. MP folds. River made a flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set. But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with sets on turn with QQ JJ and probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value. With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh. Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most of the time. The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
: really thin value bet. The rest are bluffs and hands I beat. So I called and he showed a bluff.
: Regs have a lot of tell in their sizing. Use it to your advantage
: ======================================================
: Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
| T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 3 just want to add that is very good analysis and your notes are very
comprehensive.
i should take more notes too. get lazy the last couple week.
way
card
suited
card
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
: part the ppl I am afraid of is those loose goose player. especially those
: flop seems wet.
: against such a tight player with vpip 10 and pfr 6 and c-3-bet 45, the card
: he can call your three bet come down to this: pair jj or higher , Ak suited
: or off-suited. that is it. that construct to be 3% of ranges which he can
: all your 3-bet range.
: AA or Kk is less likely since he face a raise and reraise before him as a
: tight reg, he is smart enough to under stand not to slow play this hand.
: And he absolutely won't check behind on the flop and give u guys a free card
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 a lot of range analysis is extra. The key point here is
really "villian value bet strong hand with pot size bets on river. Half pot for bluff~~~" Got that from notes and use it with your range analysis. | T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 5 now i understand why you win a lot of money online. A lot of hard work and
effort put in indeed.
pot for bluff~~~" Got that from notes and use it with your range analysis.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: a lot of range analysis is extra. The key point here is
: really "villian value bet strong hand with pot size bets on river. Half pot for bluff~~~" Got that from notes and use it with your range analysis.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 The biggest disadvantage of having a tight preflop range is that your range
is transparent. It is a huge disadvantage vs an observant opponents.
Loosening up the opening range is probably necessary to go further up the
ladder. I read something interesting the other day. To play LAG profitable,
the goal is to win small pot, lose medium pot and win big pot. Very
enlightening.
For myself personally, i finally start to transform myself away from N(it)AG
.
actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
part the ppl I am afraid of is those loose goose player. especially those
flop seems wet.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
: part the ppl I am afraid of is those loose goose player. especially those
: flop seems wet.
: against such a tight player with vpip 10 and pfr 6 and c-3-bet 45, the card
: he can call your three bet come down to this: pair jj or higher , Ak suited
: or off-suited. that is it. that construct to be 3% of ranges which he can
: all your 3-bet range.
: AA or Kk is less likely since he face a raise and reraise before him as a
: tight reg, he is smart enough to under stand not to slow play this hand.
: And he absolutely won't check behind on the flop and give u guys a free card
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 thanks man. I consider myself having a lot of passion to improve my game~~~
Winning poker is not about ego. It is about constantly improving. Ego only
stop us improving~~~
.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: now i understand why you win a lot of money online. A lot of hard work and
: effort put in indeed.
:
: pot for bluff~~~" Got that from notes and use it with your range analysis.
| T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 8 i dont think it has do with style, rather it is a personality. We are who
we are.
i will never comfortable playing lag style and use my whole stack bluff with
air like tom dwan.
you can be a nit and still win money. my results are dramatically improved
when i cut down my vpip and pfr range in half.
An advantage being a nit is when you go aggressive to a pot, your bluff
almost always get a pass. ppl look at your 12/10 and 55 w$sd, they always
give u respect and let you get away with your bluff. LOL
range
profitable,
AG
way
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: The biggest disadvantage of having a tight preflop range is that your range
: is transparent. It is a huge disadvantage vs an observant opponents.
: Loosening up the opening range is probably necessary to go further up the
: ladder. I read something interesting the other day. To play LAG profitable,
: the goal is to win small pot, lose medium pot and win big pot. Very
: enlightening.
: For myself personally, i finally start to transform myself away from N(it)AG
: .
:
: actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 This is something i used to do. Now I just don't think it is good enough..
I think I have said something similar in one of my old post back in May. I
agree N(it)AG can still win. I have been doing it for the past 11 month from
NL10-N100, but the win rate is marginal at best at NL100 (pretty decent at
NL50). The profit mainly is from clueless fish and some fish regs. To go
further up, we definitely need to add more dynamic to our games when there
are more good regs around.
An advantage being a nit is when you go aggressive to a pot, your bluff
almost always get a pass. ppl look at your 12/10 and 55 w$sd, they always
give u respect and let you get away with your bluff. LOL
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: i dont think it has do with style, rather it is a personality. We are who
: we are.
: i will never comfortable playing lag style and use my whole stack bluff with
: air like tom dwan.
: you can be a nit and still win money. my results are dramatically improved
: when i cut down my vpip and pfr range in half.
: An advantage being a nit is when you go aggressive to a pot, your bluff
: almost always get a pass. ppl look at your 12/10 and 55 w$sd, they always
: give u respect and let you get away with your bluff. LOL
:
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 nice one.
Thanks to MP1, you preflop 3X stop the TAG behind.
is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I
suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA KK. So these two hand needs
to weight less in the range especially AA.
much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to
check and give up. he checked behind.
bet to protect my equity in the pot. Villian calls. MP folds. River made a
flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by
worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped
and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set.
But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on
turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with se: ts on turn with QQ JJ and
probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value.
With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh.
Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most
of the time. The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
and he showed a bluff.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 对手是个tight reg. 1.3k hand history with vpip 11 6 2.3
: one of the notes i have on him
: "3 bet with pocket Js and check set flop... and pot turn and pot river"
: I 3 bet this hand preflop with AQo to isolate MP. Villian flat behind. He is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA KK. So these two hand needs to weight less in the range especially AA.
: Now on the flop, i didn't hit anything. Vs villian's range, I didn't have much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to check and give up. he checked behind.
: Turn I made top pair, MP check again so i didn't think he had anything. I bet to protect my equity in the pot. Villian calls. MP folds. River made a flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set. But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with sets on turn with QQ JJ and probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value. With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh. Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most of the time. The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
: really thin value bet. The rest are bluffs and hands I beat. So I called and he showed a bluff.
: Regs have a lot of tell in their sizing. Use it to your advantage
: ======================================================
: Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 11 good say. It is very tough to switch. I play RUSH NL before. Quite TAG (AJ+
& PP only, KT+s/JQs at LP). Now I switch to LAG at certain degree.
Not to play RUSH NL much at all since the winning is not good.
In RUSH NL, the best is still TAG. It is very hard to play against premium
hands
with loose hand. That is the reason PJJ is really good.
with
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: i dont think it has do with style, rather it is a personality. We are who
: we are.
: i will never comfortable playing lag style and use my whole stack bluff with
: air like tom dwan.
: you can be a nit and still win money. my results are dramatically improved
: when i cut down my vpip and pfr range in half.
: An advantage being a nit is when you go aggressive to a pot, your bluff
: almost always get a pass. ppl look at your 12/10 and 55 w$sd, they always
: give u respect and let you get away with your bluff. LOL
:
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 12 你们前两天还互相较劲儿 现在竟然开始互相吹捧了 呵呵
祝你们早日 从fullring升级到HU，从紧凶蜕变到dynamic |
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