l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 1 这次全家四口（女儿，老婆和丈母娘）到vegas, 总共在venetian住了六
个晚上。由于有了丈母娘的鼎力相助看小孩，我每个晚上都有了打poker
的机会。白天也打过两三次短的sessions.
在local玩poker, 主要是打2/5NL，水平是基本能在local casino存活
下来。有时为了等桌子，有时也打1/2NL。有时觉得1/2NL反而不好打，
bet多了没人跟，slow play就会被bust。所以到vegas之后，我准备只
玩2/5。谁知计划赶不上变化，我只打了一个session的2/5，其余时间
都在玩1/2。觉得2/5的经验还是对玩好1/2有帮助的。
这次总共获利大概2.5K，其中1k是从2/5上得来的。想想看，还是2/5
的效率高，只玩了一次，却占了2/5的效益。这就是为什么我偏爱2/5
胜过1/2. 但经验告诉我们赢多快就会输多快, 除非你的Poker水平高
过你同桌的水平。为了减轻打2/5的压力，也为了陪老婆玩，我们就一
块在1/2桌子上并肩作战直到来开vegas.
由于没有及时上贴，大多数的过程我都不记得了，我就贴些我记得的
几手牌(请原谅我下面中English混杂的牌局描述了)
1. 最简单的double up之一
刚上2/5牌桌，200刀buy in（V的buy in上限是1k. 可见我还是个很
业余的玩家).
几把牌后，我拿到Ah8h, 在late position limp in, big blind raise
to 20, call.
Flop me A85, two pairs. Nice. Big blind bet 35, I all in,
big blind called.
river is a blank. I win this pot. Big blind show his A7.
2. 最简单的doube up之二
还是在2/5。我大概有400刀了。在button, 我拿到Qs3s, call 15 raise.
flop is ks6s3d, flush draw with one bottom pair, nice flop.
every checked to me, I bet 65, one guy call.
turn is As. bang, i hit my flush. bet 95, the guy still call
river is 5d, the guy checked, I alled in, he called.
my Q high flush bit his 7 high.
Now I have 800刀
3. 最简单的all in
还是在2/5，手上有700。在button, 我有Th8h，call 30 raise,
5 ppe in the pot. (big blind raise)
flop is Qh9h6d. flush draw and gut-shot sraigt draw.
big blind bet 200. I have 13 outs. and pot is 250. The odd
should justify my call. I called
turn is 7d, I hit my straight. The big blind all in, I simply
called.
river is blank.
The big blind show his AA. Poor AA
4. 最失败的slow play
还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
I still checked.
river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
KJ.
I lose 400in this hand. What a stupid slow play
5. 最运气的slow play
1/2，我有600. 在button postion, 我有Kh6h. Called short stack's
15 raise. three guys in the pot.
flop Q66. great flop. every body checked to me. I checked.
turn is 3. short stack all in with 65. the other guy called. I
just called and did not raised.
river is k. The other guy checked, I bet 150. This guy alled in,
This guy's chip had me covered. I felt he could not have QQ.
I called. He showed his 33.
What a lucky call for me in the turn. If I raised in the turn and
he put me call in, It would be tough call for me in the turn.
6. 最倒霉的flop
这是一手1/2上的牌，我有200左右。I was dealed TT. A new guy just
in big blind postion and raised to 15. I called.
The flop is KKT. What a flop, I had full house.
Big blind bet 25, I flat call. I put him on AK.
接下来的短兵相接，他终于在river时all in了，我call之后发现他的牌
是KK. 既生瑜，何生亮
7. 最happy的bluff
1/2. 我有500+. 我的牌是Ah7h，在late position. I raised to 7. big
blind raise to 30. That is big raise in 1/2. I called。Heads up.
flop is 852. The guy bet 40, I raised to 80. He called.
turn is T, the guy checked. I bet 175. The guy called with a little
hesitation. 我想玩玩了，准备river来了只好check缴枪投降了
River is A。我又欢喜又忧愁，总算有个A来了，又怕对方也是A with high
kicker. 他亮出了他的K2，我高兴的亮出我的A7. 一边高兴的敛筹码，
一边责怪他不该call我的turn bet.
8. 最成功的bluff
1/2， about 700. 我的牌是A5 suited。big blind postion. A solid player
(chip leader with 1k) raised 35. I called.
Flop is 335, I have top pair. I checked, the guy bet 65. I called.
turn is 6. the guy bet 100, I called.
river is 2. I put this guy on a big pair. If I did not do something,
I would lose this pot for sure. I bet 200, The guy tank for quite
a while and folded.
我长出了一口气，心虚地告诉那个人我很lucky, river made my straight.
心里很高兴。击败桌上很牛的人给我很大的快感。
9. 最失败的semi bluff
1/2, about 900. I am under the gun. 我的牌是JJ。I raised to 35.
那个在我的“最happy的bluff”的那个家伙竟然call了。
Flop is TT7. I hate this flop. I still bet 45 to test the water.
The is guy raised to 125 with 200+ left. 我一冲动，就叫all in.
这厮狞笑的call 了。
结局基本可想而知，这家伙手上有QT，我输回300多给他。太太就坐在我的
下家玩，愤怒的批评我不该主动all in, 把赢的钱又轻易送回去了。然后
搬出我平时教育她的心得来来教育。我心里那个郁闷啊。
好，就记得这些牌了，还是我在大牌期间记录在我的电话的记事本里的。
总之，1/2是个很passive的game, 但是game的气氛是可以调节。因为经历
了2/5的起起落落，对1/2的起落就不会觉得压力很大了。经常的随机的raise
或slow play big hands。这个牌桌的人对我既不信任，也不太会轻易raise
我，但会call一些他们平时不会call的牌，这就是我要的效果。
其实打得好的话，bank roll也多得话，还是应当打2/5。另外，太太的1/2NL
热情也调动起来了，一回来就查假期，憧憬下次去vegas并肩战斗。她不想
去local玩。怕家里出两赌棍。呵呵 | c******q
发帖数: 456 | 2 haha, nice post, especially the part at the end. | j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 3 赞！
【在 l*u 的大作中提到】
: 这次全家四口（女儿，老婆和丈母娘）到vegas, 总共在venetian住了六
: 个晚上。由于有了丈母娘的鼎力相助看小孩，我每个晚上都有了打poker
: 的机会。白天也打过两三次短的sessions.
: 在local玩poker, 主要是打2/5NL，水平是基本能在local casino存活
: 下来。有时为了等桌子，有时也打1/2NL。有时觉得1/2NL反而不好打，
: bet多了没人跟，slow play就会被bust。所以到vegas之后，我准备只
: 玩2/5。谁知计划赶不上变化，我只打了一个session的2/5，其余时间
: 都在玩1/2。觉得2/5的经验还是对玩好1/2有帮助的。
: 这次总共获利大概2.5K，其中1k是从2/5上得来的。想想看，还是2/5
: 的效率高，只玩了一次，却占了2/5的效益。这就是为什么我偏爱2/5
| f**********1
发帖数: 52 | 4 8. 最成功的bluff
1/2， about 700. 我的牌是A5 suited。big blind postion. A solid player
(chip leader with 1k) raised 35. I called.
Flop is 335, I have top pair. I checked, the guy bet 65. I called.
turn is 6. the guy bet 100, I called.
river is 2. I put this guy on a big pair. If I did not do something,
I would lose this pot for sure. I bet 200, The guy tank for quite
a while and folded.
我长出了一口气，心虚地告诉那个人我很lucky, river made my straight.
心里很高兴。击败桌上很牛的人给我很大的快感。
"A solid player"? with position, paired board and no pot control, set himself up for
being bluffed.
well played!
looks like quite a few big fish, how's the table overall?
seems Venetian is the number 1 fishing destination in vegas! thanks for
sharing... | l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 5 In Venetian, I think 80% of the 1/2NL table are beginners. They are very
passive, very straight forward and easy to fold.
But 2/5NL tables are different. 80% of 2/5NL player in venetian are veterans
. Small stack size has no chance to bluff.
【在 f**********1 的大作中提到】
: 8. 最成功的bluff
: 1/2， about 700. 我的牌是A5 suited。big blind postion. A solid player
: (chip leader with 1k) raised 35. I called.
: Flop is 335, I have top pair. I checked, the guy bet 65. I called.
: turn is 6. the guy bet 100, I called.
: river is 2. I put this guy on a big pair. If I did not do something,
: I would lose this pot for sure. I bet 200, The guy tank for quite
: a while and folded.
: 我长出了一口气，心虚地告诉那个人我很lucky, river made my straight.
: 心里很高兴。击败桌上很牛的人给我很大的快感。
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 牛B就两字，一中一英。
【在 l*u 的大作中提到】
: 这次全家四口（女儿，老婆和丈母娘）到vegas, 总共在venetian住了六
: 个晚上。由于有了丈母娘的鼎力相助看小孩，我每个晚上都有了打poker
: 的机会。白天也打过两三次短的sessions.
: 在local玩poker, 主要是打2/5NL，水平是基本能在local casino存活
: 下来。有时为了等桌子，有时也打1/2NL。有时觉得1/2NL反而不好打，
: bet多了没人跟，slow play就会被bust。所以到vegas之后，我准备只
: 玩2/5。谁知计划赶不上变化，我只打了一个session的2/5，其余时间
: 都在玩1/2。觉得2/5的经验还是对玩好1/2有帮助的。
: 这次总共获利大概2.5K，其中1k是从2/5上得来的。想想看，还是2/5
: 的效率高，只玩了一次，却占了2/5的效益。这就是为什么我偏爱2/5
| l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 7 写的很好，恭喜！
最失败的slow play
还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
I still checked.
river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
KJ.
I lose 400in this hand. What a stupid slow play
这手牌几乎和我以前在1－3NL牌桌上看到的情况一模一样。老头PRE-FLOP RAISE 20，
无数CALLER，FLOP就是差不多这样的，FLOP CHECK, TURN CHECK，RIVER另一老头直接
ALL-IN 500 多，这OR老头SNAP CALLED。BOARD 是 A 3 8 Q J. ALL-IN 老头是K10。
RUNNER RUNNER而且还都是FREE，一到RIVER他先说话竟然直接就ALL-IN，反正当时看得
整个桌上的人都惊呆了。500块啊！OR FLOP不BET，TURN 也得BET BET啊，RIVER到是没
办法了，他都没来得及BET的，只能CALL了。所以SLOW PLAY最害人了。我也输了好多钱
在SLOW PLAY上，所以现在一般都主动BET，你要有东西BET了你会CALL的，没牌SLOW也
没用。 | l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 8 所以接下来的几天里我就再没有slow play我的nuts了。这个flop可以不bet, 但turn的
时候一定要bet.
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 写的很好，恭喜！
: 最失败的slow play
: 还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
: raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
: flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
: flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
: turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
: I still checked.
: river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
: I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 + 1 for deep stack NL game, we should barely slowplay anything.
We wanna build pot when we have a monster and let any draw pay.
【在 l*u 的大作中提到】
: 所以接下来的几天里我就再没有slow play我的nuts了。这个flop可以不bet, 但turn的
: 时候一定要bet.
| l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 10 这是金玉良言。可惜在打poker的过程里总是不停犯同样的错误
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: + 1 for deep stack NL game, we should barely slowplay anything.
: We wanna build pot when we have a monster and let any draw pay.
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