c******q 发帖数: 456 | 1 Played a few hours 1/2 game today. Here is one hand played in early session.
A limped pot. Hero checked with T2o on BB. Flop was 863r. Hero led out $6,
the Btn raised to $16. Btn is the type of players who love to raise with top
pair on dry board. I decided to fight back this time and 3-bet to $46. Btn
took about 5sec to make the call. After the call he had $70ish left. The
turn was a 5. I checked to see btn's action. He struggled quite a while and
finally checked. The river was another 5. At this moment I am pretty sure he
had a 8 and a 8 only. So I pushed him all-in.
My question is what is the best play on the flop, on the turn, and on the
river?
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.39 | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 2 I think he is too short a stack for you to 3 bet flop for a total air ball
bluff. I don't see him folding any thing on the turn or river once he called
flop. I would just give up turn and river because 5 is a very bad card for you. Bad turn,
even worse river. | n*****t 发帖数: 190 | 3 Nod. I would like to give up on the turn and river. Flop play is fine. But
once he called, it is hard to push him out with thia kind of low turn and
river cards.
called
for you. Bad turn,
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : I think he is too short a stack for you to 3 bet flop for a total air ball : bluff. I don't see him folding any thing on the turn or river once he called : flop. I would just give up turn and river because 5 is a very bad card for you. Bad turn, : even worse river.
| T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 4 Agree, once he called the flop, it was pot-commit for him.
The only hand that in his range which explains his action and you can also
push him off his hand is 75 (Open ended str draw and he hit 5 on the river).
Any other hand, he will call you river bet, either he has an overpair or top
pair, especially you check the turn.
The best play on the flop? How about just fold and don't make move. It may
look cool if you take down the pot and show them the T2o. But if your goal
of playing poker is to make money, out of position, stone cold bluff in
mulit-way while facing resistance always a -EV play, epecially in low stakes
. I did it quite some times, sometimes I just thought to myself: how the
hell did I get myself into this sh*t? | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 5 over played all the way, i guess.
at such low/donk stake, such advanced plays/thinking processes are suicidal
in most cases. most ppl simply cannot lay down a medium strength hand. they
don't (or can't) evaluate your whole string of actions well. if you are "
pretty sure he had a 8 and a 8 only", then unless they're "risking" $200+,
they are not going to fold here for last $70.
on the other hand, such tendency makes value bet so important, like lziueng
said. at least for myself, i feel i pot control too much and miss thin/
medium values too much with a good made hand.
session.
top
Btn
and
he
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】 : Played a few hours 1/2 game today. Here is one hand played in early session. : A limped pot. Hero checked with T2o on BB. Flop was 863r. Hero led out $6, : the Btn raised to $16. Btn is the type of players who love to raise with top : pair on dry board. I decided to fight back this time and 3-bet to $46. Btn : took about 5sec to make the call. After the call he had $70ish left. The : turn was a 5. I checked to see btn's action. He struggled quite a while and : finally checked. The river was another 5. At this moment I am pretty sure he : had a 8 and a 8 only. So I pushed him all-in. : My question is what is the best play on the flop, on the turn, and on the : river?
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 6 how are you doing lately?
).
top
stakes
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : Agree, once he called the flop, it was pot-commit for him. : The only hand that in his range which explains his action and you can also : push him off his hand is 75 (Open ended str draw and he hit 5 on the river). : Any other hand, he will call you river bet, either he has an overpair or top : pair, especially you check the turn. : The best play on the flop? How about just fold and don't make move. It may : look cool if you take down the pot and show them the T2o. But if your goal : of playing poker is to make money, out of position, stone cold bluff in : mulit-way while facing resistance always a -EV play, epecially in low stakes : . I did it quite some times, sometimes I just thought to myself: how the
| T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 7 I am doing ok. I played a lot less this year. Several sessions in Jan and
Feb put me comfortably above my profit goal that I don't need to play a hand
in March.
The good: I didn't have a losing session this year, just yet.
The bad: I didn't have any big score either. Just winning the a little bit
here and there.
The worst: LD and I will go to LA for vacation soon. My bankroll will take a
big hit. Like the classic "Rounders" quote: "I guess the sayings' true. In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin' rake!"
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : how are you doing lately? : : ). : top : stakes
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 8 better spend your winnings and make your woman happy than losing it back to
casino rake or some loser gamblers in the casino~~
Well done!
hand
a
In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin'
rake!"
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : I am doing ok. I played a lot less this year. Several sessions in Jan and : Feb put me comfortably above my profit goal that I don't need to play a hand : in March. : The good: I didn't have a losing session this year, just yet. : The bad: I didn't have any big score either. Just winning the a little bit : here and there. : The worst: LD and I will go to LA for vacation soon. My bankroll will take a : big hit. Like the classic "Rounders" quote: "I guess the sayings' true. In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin' rake!"
| T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 9 True.
Thanks for the AC outlet tips last time. I had scored some good deals when I
were there, although not as good as yours.
Guess the best time shopping there was around Mid Jan.
to
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : better spend your winnings and make your woman happy than losing it back to : casino rake or some loser gamblers in the casino~~ : Well done! : : hand : a : In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin' : rake!"
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 10 lol, dude, take it easy and enjoy before you two have kids, if you plan to.
as amatuers, actually we never have a real "bankroll" just for poker. it's
always some money for fun we could afford to win more/lose. if we lose some,
then take a break, and get back again. the money we win won't make a diff.
in our lives at all. so don't take it too seriously like i did before, hehe.
for example, you won some for this vacation, then what if you lost, then you
wouldn't go (and enjoy life)?
my poker thing is about to end soon if not yet, got another unplanned kid
coming around this oct. for the last 6 years or "stage" of my life, i truly
enjoyed this game and tested myself out, for me, now it's time to move onto
other more important things, lol.
hand
a
In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin'
rake!"
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : I am doing ok. I played a lot less this year. Several sessions in Jan and : Feb put me comfortably above my profit goal that I don't need to play a hand : in March. : The good: I didn't have a losing session this year, just yet. : The bad: I didn't have any big score either. Just winning the a little bit : here and there. : The worst: LD and I will go to LA for vacation soon. My bankroll will take a : big hit. Like the classic "Rounders" quote: "I guess the sayings' true. In the poker game of life, women are the rake, man... They are the fuckin' rake!"
| | | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 11 3rd kids??? Really?!?!?! I start to have a feeling that your wife is trying
to score more kids to prevent you from going to the casino.. lol...
On a serious note, good luck with kid No 3. It is such a time sink having
kids. My wife wants No 2 very bad. I am having my reservation for selfish
reasons. But it will be on the agenda very soon anyway. More time for kids,
less time for poker. Maybe it is for the best~
some,
.
hehe.
you
truly
onto
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : lol, dude, take it easy and enjoy before you two have kids, if you plan to. : as amatuers, actually we never have a real "bankroll" just for poker. it's : always some money for fun we could afford to win more/lose. if we lose some, : then take a break, and get back again. the money we win won't make a diff. : in our lives at all. so don't take it too seriously like i did before, hehe. : for example, you won some for this vacation, then what if you lost, then you : wouldn't go (and enjoy life)? : my poker thing is about to end soon if not yet, got another unplanned kid : coming around this oct. for the last 6 years or "stage" of my life, i truly : enjoyed this game and tested myself out, for me, now it's time to move onto
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 12 lol, guess you guys didn't get it when i said i hit a set last week.
yeah, another kid is for sure the #1 reason why i need to re-think about my
life and everything else, but there're other reasons too to make me take on
more resposibilities. to be honest, i saw this day coming quite a while ago
when i quit online poker before BF. then this hangover kept going for
another year till now.
i'm not a person with long-term committments towards any hobbies or alike,
or every 5 years or so, i tend to move to something new and experience a
diff. type of "excitement".
trying
kids,
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : 3rd kids??? Really?!?!?! I start to have a feeling that your wife is trying : to score more kids to prevent you from going to the casino.. lol... : On a serious note, good luck with kid No 3. It is such a time sink having : kids. My wife wants No 2 very bad. I am having my reservation for selfish : reasons. But it will be on the agenda very soon anyway. More time for kids, : less time for poker. Maybe it is for the best~ : : some, : . : hehe.
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 13 Remember that you can not quit the hobby of having kids until at least
another 18 years. haha.
It also cost at least 400Ks including their college tuition without considering inflation PER KID. Most expensive hobby indeed.
my
on
ago
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : lol, guess you guys didn't get it when i said i hit a set last week. : yeah, another kid is for sure the #1 reason why i need to re-think about my : life and everything else, but there're other reasons too to make me take on : more resposibilities. to be honest, i saw this day coming quite a while ago : when i quit online poker before BF. then this hangover kept going for : another year till now. : i'm not a person with long-term committments towards any hobbies or alike, : or every 5 years or so, i tend to move to something new and experience a : diff. type of "excitement". :
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 14 i know i know, my life is "ruined" now, hehe, for my whole life, i NEVER saw
this before. i knew 2 kids would be the most likely case so "naturally"
everything was set for that without surprise. now i need to man up and
sacrifice some fun.
considering inflation PER KID. Most expensive hobby indeed.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : Remember that you can not quit the hobby of having kids until at least : another 18 years. haha. : It also cost at least 400Ks including their college tuition without considering inflation PER KID. Most expensive hobby indeed. : : my : on : ago
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 15 I think it worths every penny and time of it just watching my 3 year old
running around screaming "BA-BA"... hehe. Enjoy it~
I wish I could have the guts to go for 3rd. Probably not going to happen. Not at least get the second one done.. lol..
saw
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : i know i know, my life is "ruined" now, hehe, for my whole life, i NEVER saw : this before. i knew 2 kids would be the most likely case so "naturally" : everything was set for that without surprise. now i need to man up and : sacrifice some fun. : : considering inflation PER KID. Most expensive hobby indeed.
| g**s 发帖数: 1114 | 16 congratulations~~~
3 kids...太可怕了。。。 LOL
some,
.
hehe.
you
truly
onto
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : lol, dude, take it easy and enjoy before you two have kids, if you plan to. : as amatuers, actually we never have a real "bankroll" just for poker. it's : always some money for fun we could afford to win more/lose. if we lose some, : then take a break, and get back again. the money we win won't make a diff. : in our lives at all. so don't take it too seriously like i did before, hehe. : for example, you won some for this vacation, then what if you lost, then you : wouldn't go (and enjoy life)? : my poker thing is about to end soon if not yet, got another unplanned kid : coming around this oct. for the last 6 years or "stage" of my life, i truly : enjoyed this game and tested myself out, for me, now it's time to move onto
| l*****g 发帖数: 1128 | 17 Congratulations! Three kids is not that bad. While you sacrificing your time
and your hobbies, you gain more joy from your kids.
saw
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : i know i know, my life is "ruined" now, hehe, for my whole life, i NEVER saw : this before. i knew 2 kids would be the most likely case so "naturally" : everything was set for that without surprise. now i need to man up and : sacrifice some fun. : : considering inflation PER KID. Most expensive hobby indeed.
| c******q 发帖数: 456 | 18 Should we change the name of the board to "Poker Kids"?
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.39 | j**y 发帖数: 7014 | 19 老大告诉我们,防护措施太重要了!
lol
some,
.
hehe.
you
truly
onto
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : lol, dude, take it easy and enjoy before you two have kids, if you plan to. : as amatuers, actually we never have a real "bankroll" just for poker. it's : always some money for fun we could afford to win more/lose. if we lose some, : then take a break, and get back again. the money we win won't make a diff. : in our lives at all. so don't take it too seriously like i did before, hehe. : for example, you won some for this vacation, then what if you lost, then you : wouldn't go (and enjoy life)? : my poker thing is about to end soon if not yet, got another unplanned kid : coming around this oct. for the last 6 years or "stage" of my life, i truly : enjoyed this game and tested myself out, for me, now it's time to move onto
| H****r 发帖数: 2801 | 20 版大通过所有考验了
some,
.
hehe.
you
truly
onto
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : lol, dude, take it easy and enjoy before you two have kids, if you plan to. : as amatuers, actually we never have a real "bankroll" just for poker. it's : always some money for fun we could afford to win more/lose. if we lose some, : then take a break, and get back again. the money we win won't make a diff. : in our lives at all. so don't take it too seriously like i did before, hehe. : for example, you won some for this vacation, then what if you lost, then you : wouldn't go (and enjoy life)? : my poker thing is about to end soon if not yet, got another unplanned kid : coming around this oct. for the last 6 years or "stage" of my life, i truly : enjoyed this game and tested myself out, for me, now it's time to move onto
| | | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 21 代友急问,你们知道什么时候上船么?
要是太晚了,是不是还要补张票?
【在 j**y 的大作中提到】 : 老大告诉我们,防护措施太重要了! : lol : : some, : . : hehe. : you : truly : onto
| p****r 发帖数: 9164 | 22 +1
恭喜老大巧中三条,祝愿老大早日圆满quads! haha.
time
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】 : Congratulations! Three kids is not that bad. While you sacrificing your time : and your hobbies, you gain more joy from your kids. : : saw
| g******s 发帖数: 211 | 23 再下一个目标就是JACKPOT了 :)
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : +1 : 恭喜老大巧中三条,祝愿老大早日圆满quads! haha. : : time
| H****r 发帖数: 2801 | 24 再加把油直接凑齐一副牌!
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】 : 再下一个目标就是JACKPOT了 :)
| g**s 发帖数: 1114 | 25 这个"巧"字用的好啊,雅俗共赏,有意境。。。LOL
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : +1 : 恭喜老大巧中三条,祝愿老大早日圆满quads! haha. : : time
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