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l*****g
发帖数: 1128
1
自从上次离开凤凰城之后就一直很不顺,poker也很少玩了,还老是输,主要是太远,一般
每1-2周去玩一次,所以玩得很loose.因为好不容易才玩一次,完全没有以前的耐心等牌,
什么烂牌都玩,除了前两个session大赢了一下外,后来几乎每次都输,把我以前的
winning输掉1/3,自信也没了,然后poker的兴趣也消磨尽了.还有就是打得也不专心,因
为又得弄毕业找工作之类的,每次打得都心烦意乱的.总之,城市小,工作又少,工资又给
得低还要求又高,加上poker又没得玩,终于上个周日又搬回到凤凰城.然后来了两天工作
也差不多搞定了,所以今天赶紧跑到俺日思夜想的casion arizona,一进poker room马上
有种像回到了老家的感觉.dealer和老regular们个个都来问候,都说怎么好久没看到我
了.后来我就买了200在2/3NL的桌上玩了一下,刚开始还玩得挺好的,但后来又开始没耐
心了,然后又老是想着过去这一个月输掉的钱,心里很是难受.最后又输了400.这已经不
知道是俺第多少个losing session了,都已经忘了赢钱的感觉了.最后我还是决定去玩3/
5NL,因为我还是认为我玩3/5NL更精力集中更tight一点,所以我的优势更能体现出来.所
以又买了300在3/5桌上坐下,没多久通过偷pot,狠bet等等我的stack就从300打到600多,
结果来了这手牌.
Hero(660$): been on the table for about 30 minutes. Bluffed several times
but never got caught.
Villain (900$): kind of quiet. No read so far.
EP LAG young guy opens for 25. Villain calls. I call with 4s5s on the BTN.
Flop 2s 4d 7s. EP bets out 45, and villain smooth calls. I think for a while
and then raise to 145. EP snap folds. Villain then takes for a long time
and raises me back for 200 more. I then go into tank and try to figure out
what he has. After analyzing this hand for a while, I put him on one pair or
draw. I know i am either fold or push all in. So, since I don't think he is
strong, I decide to push him all in for 300 more. I am trying to represent
two pair or a set. He then takes another 5 minutes and calls. He had 88 and
held up. When I put this hand into the odds calculator, and it showed that I
was favorite on the flop. Anyway, I lost another 300. But I really didn't
want to quit just yet, so I went to the bank and got another 1000. I bought
in for another 400 and played very well the whole session. I ended up
winning 2460$ from 3/5NL, So up total 2060$(minus 400 from 2/3 game) today.
Finally got my confidence back, and feel very good to win again.
本来要把stack的照片贴出来的,但竟然显示文件太大,有什么其他办法把它贴上来吗?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
2
mark first then read...

牌,

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 自从上次离开凤凰城之后就一直很不顺,poker也很少玩了,还老是输,主要是太远,一般
: 每1-2周去玩一次,所以玩得很loose.因为好不容易才玩一次,完全没有以前的耐心等牌,
: 什么烂牌都玩,除了前两个session大赢了一下外,后来几乎每次都输,把我以前的
: winning输掉1/3,自信也没了,然后poker的兴趣也消磨尽了.还有就是打得也不专心,因
: 为又得弄毕业找工作之类的,每次打得都心烦意乱的.总之,城市小,工作又少,工资又给
: 得低还要求又高,加上poker又没得玩,终于上个周日又搬回到凤凰城.然后来了两天工作
: 也差不多搞定了,所以今天赶紧跑到俺日思夜想的casion arizona,一进poker room马上
: 有种像回到了老家的感觉.dealer和老regular们个个都来问候,都说怎么好久没看到我
: 了.后来我就买了200在2/3NL的桌上玩了一下,刚开始还玩得挺好的,但后来又开始没耐
: 心了,然后又老是想着过去这一个月输掉的钱,心里很是难受.最后又输了400.这已经不

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
nice post!
有什么其他办法把它贴上来
------------
open it using any photo editor, resize it to half or so, when the file size
is <100k, you'll be fine.

牌,

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 自从上次离开凤凰城之后就一直很不顺,poker也很少玩了,还老是输,主要是太远,一般
: 每1-2周去玩一次,所以玩得很loose.因为好不容易才玩一次,完全没有以前的耐心等牌,
: 什么烂牌都玩,除了前两个session大赢了一下外,后来几乎每次都输,把我以前的
: winning输掉1/3,自信也没了,然后poker的兴趣也消磨尽了.还有就是打得也不专心,因
: 为又得弄毕业找工作之类的,每次打得都心烦意乱的.总之,城市小,工作又少,工资又给
: 得低还要求又高,加上poker又没得玩,终于上个周日又搬回到凤凰城.然后来了两天工作
: 也差不多搞定了,所以今天赶紧跑到俺日思夜想的casion arizona,一进poker room马上
: 有种像回到了老家的感觉.dealer和老regular们个个都来问候,都说怎么好久没看到我
: 了.后来我就买了200在2/3NL的桌上玩了一下,刚开始还玩得挺好的,但后来又开始没耐
: 心了,然后又老是想着过去这一个月输掉的钱,心里很是难受.最后又输了400.这已经不

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
of course you're a favorite on the flop. even against a set, you're not in
too bad shape.

牌,

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 自从上次离开凤凰城之后就一直很不顺,poker也很少玩了,还老是输,主要是太远,一般
: 每1-2周去玩一次,所以玩得很loose.因为好不容易才玩一次,完全没有以前的耐心等牌,
: 什么烂牌都玩,除了前两个session大赢了一下外,后来几乎每次都输,把我以前的
: winning输掉1/3,自信也没了,然后poker的兴趣也消磨尽了.还有就是打得也不专心,因
: 为又得弄毕业找工作之类的,每次打得都心烦意乱的.总之,城市小,工作又少,工资又给
: 得低还要求又高,加上poker又没得玩,终于上个周日又搬回到凤凰城.然后来了两天工作
: 也差不多搞定了,所以今天赶紧跑到俺日思夜想的casion arizona,一进poker room马上
: 有种像回到了老家的感觉.dealer和老regular们个个都来问候,都说怎么好久没看到我
: 了.后来我就买了200在2/3NL的桌上玩了一下,刚开始还玩得挺好的,但后来又开始没耐
: 心了,然后又老是想着过去这一个月输掉的钱,心里很是难受.最后又输了400.这已经不

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
5
Yeah, that guy is a bad player. He went up to 1500 after that hand. He calls
with everything. He ended up cashing out 500.
I just really don't understand his reraise on the flop. If he was trying to
test if I was bluffing, then why did he still call after I pushed all in? or
if he thinks his hand was that strong, why couldn't he snap call my all in?
I just feel that he had no idea what he was doing on that hand.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: of course you're a favorite on the flop. even against a set, you're not in
: too bad shape.
:
: 牌,

n*****t
发帖数: 190
6
最后太给力了。那首牌他打的很奇怪,如果你是set,那他super underdog;如果你是2
over plus flush draw, 他依然是下狗。所以对上你的range, 他是无法call的。只能
说傻人got lucky 了。能不能多讲几手牌,怎么搞到2000多的。
B*******4
发帖数: 1438
7
还找啥工作啊,直接转PRO不就完了,

牌,

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 自从上次离开凤凰城之后就一直很不顺,poker也很少玩了,还老是输,主要是太远,一般
: 每1-2周去玩一次,所以玩得很loose.因为好不容易才玩一次,完全没有以前的耐心等牌,
: 什么烂牌都玩,除了前两个session大赢了一下外,后来几乎每次都输,把我以前的
: winning输掉1/3,自信也没了,然后poker的兴趣也消磨尽了.还有就是打得也不专心,因
: 为又得弄毕业找工作之类的,每次打得都心烦意乱的.总之,城市小,工作又少,工资又给
: 得低还要求又高,加上poker又没得玩,终于上个周日又搬回到凤凰城.然后来了两天工作
: 也差不多搞定了,所以今天赶紧跑到俺日思夜想的casion arizona,一进poker room马上
: 有种像回到了老家的感觉.dealer和老regular们个个都来问候,都说怎么好久没看到我
: 了.后来我就买了200在2/3NL的桌上玩了一下,刚开始还玩得挺好的,但后来又开始没耐
: 心了,然后又老是想着过去这一个月输掉的钱,心里很是难受.最后又输了400.这已经不

W********m
发帖数: 7793
8
3/5 比2/3 更适合版花的高超牌技。 以此类推,如果有5/10, 那更是横扫拉。 超
级赞!!!
W********m
发帖数: 7793
9
support! 版花V5!

【在 B*******4 的大作中提到】
: 还找啥工作啊,直接转PRO不就完了,
:
: 牌,

T********n
发帖数: 528
10
congrats!
also I'm a NL donkey, but it sure seems flop raise should be a good chunk
larger? 100 more in ~320 pot makes it too hard for him to make a big
mistake (unless he folds). Something like 220-240? You have position, you
can see board develop if he calls, you save one PSB and puts a lot more
pressure on him to shove or fold flop. Better to take it down (fully
realized equity whether hit or not) and if called/shoved you're equity
favorite over shoving range anyway.
I haven't really studied NL since '06-'07, so it's possible/probable I'm
just completely out of touch with modern theories and what I'm saying is
totally wrong.
Also when he back raises you are never folding, you have pair + flush draw +
two BDSD. He can show you 77 and at that point with the size of the pot
you say very good hand - I call (and if he doesn't have 77, get the $$ in
there like you did goooooo).
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500
11
weng weng weng, weng weng weng!! ^^
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
12
我push all in就是来represent非常strong的hand,因为我知道我是绝对不能call他的
raise的,call了几乎就是在告诉他我是在draw, 要么就fold, 要么就all in.我本来是
想着fold的,以为他有set或是其他大牌,觉得拿500多去博flush不值得,但经过我分析后
,尤其是他在艰难考虑很久之后突然raise, 我认为他绝对没有很大的牌,所以我就push
all in了,结果他是想fold的,但还是call了,真不知道这个人这样打下去要输多少钱.
我从400多打到3160多,我认为主要还是几点:一是要tight.不要玩烂牌,特别是在没
position的情况下.二是要敢raise敢bet敢偷pot,特别在有position的情况下,其实很多
时候我是知道自己的牌是落后的,但我敢raise,所以很多时候他们也只能fold. 三是要
观察对手.不要用手机上网之类的,我没牌的时候几乎就一直在观察,不要以为你看某个
人玩了几手之后你就知道他是什么类型的牌手,很多时候他们会变换style, 有时连他们
自己都没意识到,所以一定得持续观察.刚开始打的时候我的一个大bluff在turn上被人
call了,谁知river我确hit到了我的gutter.但自从那次之后就没人相信我了,我也马上
换gear, 只等有牌的时候狠bet. For example,
Hero (1500$): Table image: capable of bluffing with anything.
Villain (900$): Young guy with LAG. He already heard my story of squeezing
on the turn and hit the gutter on the river. Been on the table for about 40
minutes.
Several limpers. CO raises to 15. All limpers call.I call also with my 5s2s
on SB. 6 or 7 players in the hand. Flop 4c 5c 5d. I lead out for 35. Folds
to Villain, Who raises me to 135 from MP. All others fold including the OR.
I put him either on flush draw or air. So I call and intend to raise him on
the turn. Turn is a 6h. I check. Villain checks also. River is another 4d. I
immediately bet out 250 to represent a missed flush draw. Villain snap
calls me with A high. He was so embarrassed after he saw my hand. So using
your current table image to adjust your play and betting size is very
important when playing poker.

2

【在 n*****t 的大作中提到】
: 最后太给力了。那首牌他打的很奇怪,如果你是set,那他super underdog;如果你是2
: over plus flush draw, 他依然是下狗。所以对上你的range, 他是无法call的。只能
: 说傻人got lucky 了。能不能多讲几手牌,怎么搞到2000多的。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
13
If I raised more say 200, than it would look like a squeeze, especially
after I took some time to do the raise. Also in case villain had a set, then
I didn't want to put my self committed there. So if he pushed me all in,
then I would fold. My plan was to raise 145, and if villain called on the
flop, then I would continue fire 250-300 on the turn to take it down right
there. However, after he reraised me, it really left me little space to
manipulate. I only had two choice. Fold or all in. I would fold if I could
be sure that he had two pair or better and he was never folding to my all in
. But after I analyzed the hand, and I concluded that he reraised me was
because he thought I was squeezing or raising on the draw, not because his
hand was strong. So I pushed all in to represent a very strong hand. But
unluckily, he still called and I didn't hit. Normally, I expect most people
would call my 100 raise and see what I do on the turn, but he made a weird
play and destroyed my plan.

you

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: congrats!
: also I'm a NL donkey, but it sure seems flop raise should be a good chunk
: larger? 100 more in ~320 pot makes it too hard for him to make a big
: mistake (unless he folds). Something like 220-240? You have position, you
: can see board develop if he calls, you save one PSB and puts a lot more
: pressure on him to shove or fold flop. Better to take it down (fully
: realized equity whether hit or not) and if called/shoved you're equity
: favorite over shoving range anyway.
: I haven't really studied NL since '06-'07, so it's possible/probable I'm
: just completely out of touch with modern theories and what I'm saying is

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
14
On the other hand, you're right too. If I did raise more on the flop, then I
would leave much less space for villain to make a move, so I could've taken
the pot right there.

you

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: congrats!
: also I'm a NL donkey, but it sure seems flop raise should be a good chunk
: larger? 100 more in ~320 pot makes it too hard for him to make a big
: mistake (unless he folds). Something like 220-240? You have position, you
: can see board develop if he calls, you save one PSB and puts a lot more
: pressure on him to shove or fold flop. Better to take it down (fully
: realized equity whether hit or not) and if called/shoved you're equity
: favorite over shoving range anyway.
: I haven't really studied NL since '06-'07, so it's possible/probable I'm
: just completely out of touch with modern theories and what I'm saying is

n*****t
发帖数: 190
15
不错不错。有你这个hourly rate还找什么工作啊。我觉得2/3你就不要打了,你现在的
打法,可能打3/5的更适合。

push

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我push all in就是来represent非常strong的hand,因为我知道我是绝对不能call他的
: raise的,call了几乎就是在告诉他我是在draw, 要么就fold, 要么就all in.我本来是
: 想着fold的,以为他有set或是其他大牌,觉得拿500多去博flush不值得,但经过我分析后
: ,尤其是他在艰难考虑很久之后突然raise, 我认为他绝对没有很大的牌,所以我就push
: all in了,结果他是想fold的,但还是call了,真不知道这个人这样打下去要输多少钱.
: 我从400多打到3160多,我认为主要还是几点:一是要tight.不要玩烂牌,特别是在没
: position的情况下.二是要敢raise敢bet敢偷pot,特别在有position的情况下,其实很多
: 时候我是知道自己的牌是落后的,但我敢raise,所以很多时候他们也只能fold. 三是要
: 观察对手.不要用手机上网之类的,我没牌的时候几乎就一直在观察,不要以为你看某个
: 人玩了几手之后你就知道他是什么类型的牌手,很多时候他们会变换style, 有时连他们

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
16
工作是稳定赢钱,poker还是有风险的.

【在 n*****t 的大作中提到】
: 不错不错。有你这个hourly rate还找什么工作啊。我觉得2/3你就不要打了,你现在的
: 打法,可能打3/5的更适合。
:
: push

n*****t
发帖数: 190
17
风险是打,回报也高啊。一晚上2000多的这种,而且还是税后,一个月搞两次就够了。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 工作是稳定赢钱,poker还是有风险的.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
18
牛剖斯特兄,此言甚善!

【在 n*****t 的大作中提到】
: 风险是打,回报也高啊。一晚上2000多的这种,而且还是税后,一个月搞两次就够了。
c******q
发帖数: 456
19
就是就是

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 牛剖斯特兄,此言甚善!
n*****t
发帖数: 190
20
版花一出手,这个版终于又活过来了。

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 牛剖斯特兄,此言甚善!
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
21
工作 is the nuts, poker is only a draw.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 工作是稳定赢钱,poker还是有风险的.
c******q
发帖数: 456
22
工作 is the bottom pair no kicker, poker is the OESFD

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 工作 is the nuts, poker is only a draw.
s*********r
发帖数: 4210
23
OESFD?
p****r
发帖数: 9164
24
open ended str flush draw

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: OESFD?
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
25
给fire了肿么办

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 工作 is the nuts, poker is only a draw.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
26
Fire 了就求梨树保养!

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 给fire了肿么办
W********m
发帖数: 7793
27
形象啊! 赞。

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 工作 is the bottom pair no kicker, poker is the OESFD
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
28
我还想找个胸大屁股翘的pro poker mm包养我呢

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Fire 了就求梨树保养!
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