T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 1 Lock 实在 cash out 太慢。WSN 脑筋动到 ACR 上。看 poker cashout tracking. ACR
的 cashout 是数一数二的。坑爹的 Bovada 不让纽约州注册，ACR 成为不二的选择。
前天住了个册，虽说有 1000 的 deposit bonus, 非不让俺 deposit 超过 250。逼得
哥只有 250 了。
钱一到户，直奔牌桌，哥直接就上 NL100 了。版花打 NL 10/20 临场就带 2.5 的
full buyin. 俺觉得俺比版花更强，俺整个 bankroll 就 2.5 个 buyin.
在 Lock 打得多了，尤其在一群 Reg 都走了以后，打得很顺，game is so soft, 觉得
自己水平大概是很高了，NL100 在 ACR 应该也是如此。
结果大错特错，就我打过的几个网站来说， ACR 的 NL100， NL 50 应该是 Reg 最多
，鱼最少的。Short stack 的所谓的鱼也就是一般的 weak loose, 也不会瞎搞纯
donate.运气也不是太好，紧了半天，一对 KK 给一个 Reg 不知道为什么用 JJs 4-bet
shove，然后 suck out. 没办法，只好降级打 NL50，一上桌一看，还是那几个熟面孔。
谁是 Reg 一般打个一两天就能看出来，一般桌子上有一半 Reg 就没什么搞头。 ACR
的桌子上似乎 Reg 的比例特多。
最坑爹的是 ACR 的 showdown 只 show winning hands，losing hand 的底牌在 hand
history 里看不到，(lock 就可以看)。对哥这个不用任何 poker tracking 软件的人
来说，简直一点额外的 information 都收集不到。
哥搞了两天，全无打牌的乐趣，要么绞脑汁要 outplay 人家，要么等牌等到脑汁都没
了。总之这两天我没好好过日子。250 变成了 150， 150 变成 100。
尼玛赶紧填表 cashout，准备能提出来多少就多少，哥要 cut loss。尼玛，正在填表
的时候，牌突然来了，100 半小时变 400。
但不管了，哥照样要撤。打牌就是要跟鱼打，其乐无穷。用 Rounders 的话来说，桌上
找不到鱼，那我自己就是鱼。俺不当鱼！ |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 2 ACR是可以存超过1k的，用WU。而且手续费网站会返还。
就player的水平来说， ACR确实比lock高太多了……
因为cashout快，所以reg都在这里玩。只要想想leatherass打NL200，大概就能对这个
网站的水平有个感觉了 |
c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 3 APR都有什么deposit option 呢？ |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 Lz觉得自己比女赌神还强。 厉害！
ACR
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Lock 实在 cash out 太慢。WSN 脑筋动到 ACR 上。看 poker cashout tracking. ACR
: 的 cashout 是数一数二的。坑爹的 Bovada 不让纽约州注册，ACR 成为不二的选择。
: 前天住了个册，虽说有 1000 的 deposit bonus, 非不让俺 deposit 超过 250。逼得
: 哥只有 250 了。
: 钱一到户，直奔牌桌，哥直接就上 NL100 了。版花打 NL 10/20 临场就带 2.5 的
: full buyin. 俺觉得俺比版花更强，俺整个 bankroll 就 2.5 个 buyin.
: 在 Lock 打得多了，尤其在一群 Reg 都走了以后，打得很顺，game is so soft, 觉得
: 自己水平大概是很高了，NL100 在 ACR 应该也是如此。
: 结果大错特错，就我打过的几个网站来说， ACR 的 NL100， NL 50 应该是 Reg 最多
: ，鱼最少的。Short stack 的所谓的鱼也就是一般的 weak loose, 也不会瞎搞纯
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 5 为什么话从你嘴里出来就变得那么酸呢？
我现在觉得你不是人品的问题，是人格的问题。
好心劝一句，以后有关MM的事，你什么也别说。这样你整个人看上去还算正常。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Lz觉得自己比女赌神还强。 厉害！
:
: ACR
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 6 俺也回报一下战况。。。
9月份开始玩ACR，几乎每天玩至少一个小时，已有三周了。同样发现ACR确实reg多鱼少
不好打，玩NL100和NL200都是同样的对手，必须慎重行事，要有耐心和creativity，呵
呵。。。战况还可以，先后存了800刀，昨天打到了近2000刀（包括bonus和rakeback)
，要不是输80刀给popokaka，成绩还会更好，他领俺入的门，也算回报吧，请笑纳，哈
哈哈哈。。。
希望11月份NJ可以有更多网上选择，说不定又可以回到最爱的PS。在ACR玩完bonus就走
人，打一枪换个地方，多年策略，哈哈。。。 |
z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 7 leatherass是谁？
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: ACR是可以存超过1k的，用WU。而且手续费网站会返还。
: 就player的水平来说， ACR确实比lock高太多了……
: 因为cashout快，所以reg都在这里玩。只要想想leatherass打NL200，大概就能对这个
: 网站的水平有个感觉了
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 online star, author of famous book, "treat your poker as a business".
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: leatherass是谁？
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 9 credit card 和 west union
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: APR都有什么deposit option 呢？
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 这理解能力。 还来人身攻击。 只有封你几天了。
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 为什么话从你嘴里出来就变得那么酸呢？
: 我现在觉得你不是人品的问题，是人格的问题。
: 好心劝一句，以后有关MM的事，你什么也别说。这样你整个人看上去还算正常。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 11 哥再来重申一下。 斑竹我很佩服女赌神的自信和勇气， 能玩10/20 本身就是很牛B的
一件事。扑克这东西就是以成败论英雄。女赌神如果升上去，站稳了，就是扑克班第一人
，没有之一， 那么哥以后就是女赌神的第一粉丝加护花使者。 （理解力比较差的同学
，比
如wmwmw, 请按字面意思理解， 不要又上来瞎解释乱咬。）
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这理解能力。 还来人身攻击。 只有封你几天了。
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 12 I just found out the stupid ACR even take rake for BJJ money. Even a 3
dollars pot take like $0.25 as BJJ, plus the regular house rake. That is
high way robbery.
It make NL50 almost unplayable unless you can open 4+ table at the same time
. BTW, My IQ only allows me to open 2 tables. I am slow :)
I am not too worried about those Reg. But all in all, it is not very
profitable to play them. In Lock, I regularly build my bankroll from $100-$
200. But in ACR, because there are so many regulars, I need at least $700-$
800 so I can mix up and not too worry about busted out.
God damn, if only Lock can get their act together. I like their UI, like
that I can see hold cards from hand history, like their player pool (more
fishes). |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 战绩很好。赞
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: 俺也回报一下战况。。。
: 9月份开始玩ACR，几乎每天玩至少一个小时，已有三周了。同样发现ACR确实reg多鱼少
: 不好打，玩NL100和NL200都是同样的对手，必须慎重行事，要有耐心和creativity，呵
: 呵。。。战况还可以，先后存了800刀，昨天打到了近2000刀（包括bonus和rakeback)
: ，要不是输80刀给popokaka，成绩还会更好，他领俺入的门，也算回报吧，请笑纳，哈
: 哈哈哈。。。
: 希望11月份NJ可以有更多网上选择，说不定又可以回到最爱的PS。在ACR玩完bonus就走
: 人，打一枪换个地方，多年策略，哈哈。。。
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 14 ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
time
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: I just found out the stupid ACR even take rake for BJJ money. Even a 3
: dollars pot take like $0.25 as BJJ, plus the regular house rake. That is
: high way robbery.
: It make NL50 almost unplayable unless you can open 4+ table at the same time
: . BTW, My IQ only allows me to open 2 tables. I am slow :)
: I am not too worried about those Reg. But all in all, it is not very
: profitable to play them. In Lock, I regularly build my bankroll from $100-$
: 200. But in ACR, because there are so many regulars, I need at least $700-$
: 800 so I can mix up and not too worry about busted out.
: God damn, if only Lock can get their act together. I like their UI, like
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 15 Not fun if the game becomes a full grind. If the edge is small, which I
admit I am in this case, I have to spend more time and be more patient. For
a small amount of money?
A huge part of winning poker is to find fish and find the player who is
weaker than you. If fish pool is small, there is little need to continue to
grind. And we have to move on.
Heard Bovada's player pool is pretty good. Unfortunately they don't open
business in NY state. For you guys live in NJ and open to every playing room
and even have chance to play poker star, you all should be very happy.
+2.
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
: But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
: moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
:
: time
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 16 I always consider myself as a recreational player. I play for fun not for
money.
Playing fish is not fun
For
to
room
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Not fun if the game becomes a full grind. If the edge is small, which I
: admit I am in this case, I have to spend more time and be more patient. For
: a small amount of money?
: A huge part of winning poker is to find fish and find the player who is
: weaker than you. If fish pool is small, there is little need to continue to
: grind. And we have to move on.
: Heard Bovada's player pool is pretty good. Unfortunately they don't open
: business in NY state. For you guys live in NJ and open to every playing room
: and even have chance to play poker star, you all should be very happy.
:
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 17 Partically agree, it's definitely fun to play poker with friends with small
stakes, we have friendly games all the time...but to play for a long time
and have more fun, you need try to make money somehow, otherwise this good
hobby can't go for long, playing fish is the key to make money and it's more
fun to me, sometimes too bad if you find yourself is the fish, you have to
run...:)
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: I always consider myself as a recreational player. I play for fun not for
: money.
: Playing fish is not fun
:
: For
: to
: room
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 18 上周跟着zhangsan上了nl100 跟个巨凶的玩家tangle了两手牌 直接破产的飘过
哥表示 对acr的界面还是不适应 |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 19 No fun playing against guys better than you. It is fun though to watch their
training video or hand analysis video and learn from them. That is two
different things.
To playing guys always know where they at, or super nit, is more painful
than losing to a lucky fish. Against fish, you know you eventually gonna get
it back. Against good players or nit, not so much. Eventually, the fun of
winning meaningful money take over everything.
Personally, my biggest happiness will be fish shoving 100bb+ on your head
and you are holding the stone cold nuts. Ask Teacher MM and he will have a
field day and posting another 20+ hand history. |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 20 Yeah, being able to make money from poker table is good. But obviously you
make way more money from your full-time job.If just for money, a lot of
things like e-business or stocks make more money than playing poker.
I've played chess for very long time before playing poker. Though never won
a dime by doing that, I enjoyed the game a lot by out-thinking strong
opponents.
To me,poker is just the same as chess, making some money is the bonus.
Grinding at lower stakes mechanically is the same as doing a part-time job
at KFC, money wise and intelligence wise
small
more
to
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Partically agree, it's definitely fun to play poker with friends with small
: stakes, we have friendly games all the time...but to play for a long time
: and have more fun, you need try to make money somehow, otherwise this good
: hobby can't go for long, playing fish is the key to make money and it's more
: fun to me, sometimes too bad if you find yourself is the fish, you have to
: run...:)
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 21 I actually don't agree.
If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
I definitely will.
If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
their
get
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No fun playing against guys better than you. It is fun though to watch their
: training video or hand analysis video and learn from them. That is two
: different things.
: To playing guys always know where they at, or super nit, is more painful
: than losing to a lucky fish. Against fish, you know you eventually gonna get
: it back. Against good players or nit, not so much. Eventually, the fun of
: winning meaningful money take over everything.
: Personally, my biggest happiness will be fish shoving 100bb+ on your head
: and you are holding the stone cold nuts. Ask Teacher MM and he will have a
: field day and posting another 20+ hand history.
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 22 No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
getting fun for getting owned?
Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
it?
with
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: I actually don't agree.
: If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
: I definitely will.
: If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
:
: their
: get
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 23 yeah, that's our difference
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 24 If MJ tries, I don't think I can even touch the ball. But still worth the
price. Some people willing to spend millions for space traveling, is that
really more fun than watch a movie at home? To some people yes, to some
people no.
Opponent selecting is a very important skill for pros. But again I am
recreational.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 25 It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
course, "keeps his winning".
Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 not poker related. but.. paying 2 G to play with MJ on a basketball court
is.. en... dumb.... from a guy who play basketball weekly and would give up
going to casino to play B-ball over the weekend.... |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 27 Sure, at his peak, he made well over 4m this year and has been this year
biggest winner.
But the only problem is he gave most of this winning back, like he always
does, to the players. And he has to move down again to build his bankroll.
He is doing this over and over and over again through his career. In
lifetime, he is several millions in a hole based on poker tracking results.
If not for PS sponser money, he probably has to play NL100 now.
Gambler can win or lose millions, what is new? Archie Karas turned 50
dollars to 40 millions, in 70s. Isuldur1 in his dream can't even win that
much. But what about now?
only
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
: best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
: playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
: course, "keeps his winning".
: Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
: made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
: most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
:
: take
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 28 People are just different, some just play for challenge and entertainment,
and welcome every chance to test their skills against top-caliber opponents,
I think it's nothing wrong as long as people enjoy doing it...I once
challenged a prefessional Weiqi 9p for a fun game, she simply destroyed me,
yes, it's lot of fun:) |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 29 Variance is part of the game, especially at higher stakes. If you can't
accept the variance,then it's not your game. Isildur was up about 3.7m until
August. I'm not sure about august and September, if you are, plz post the
link.
Archie Karas is different, he lost all his money by playing dice. Of course,
he is a great poker player. But playing dice is just suicide. I don't see
how this has anything to do with isildur, does he play dice as well?
Sure he may go broke in the future. Wall street bankers go broker. I may go
broke playing NL100. I won't say anything until that actually happens.
.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Sure, at his peak, he made well over 4m this year and has been this year
: biggest winner.
: But the only problem is he gave most of this winning back, like he always
: does, to the players. And he has to move down again to build his bankroll.
: He is doing this over and over and over again through his career. In
: lifetime, he is several millions in a hole based on poker tracking results.
: If not for PS sponser money, he probably has to play NL100 now.
: Gambler can win or lose millions, what is new? Archie Karas turned 50
: dollars to 40 millions, in 70s. Isuldur1 in his dream can't even win that
: much. But what about now?
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 30 yeah, I think driving a 200k car is dumb... from a guy who drive everyday.
spend millions for space traveling
is insane ...from a guy loves sifi. Jerry buss is beyond stupid to spend
hundred of thousands dollars to play with the pros... from a guy who plays
poker everyday.
Thank god people think different, otherwise the world is just so boring
up
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: not poker related. but.. paying 2 G to play with MJ on a basketball court
: is.. en... dumb.... from a guy who play basketball weekly and would give up
: going to casino to play B-ball over the weekend....
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 totally different. these things are fun. playing BB with MJ is not for
either for him or me. PASS. I would not even bother to drive 10 mils to
play with him for free.....
traveling
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: yeah, I think driving a 200k car is dumb... from a guy who drive everyday.
: spend millions for space traveling
: is insane ...from a guy loves sifi. Jerry buss is beyond stupid to spend
: hundred of thousands dollars to play with the pros... from a guy who plays
: poker everyday.
: Thank god people think different, otherwise the world is just so boring
:
: up
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 32 YOU think these things are FUN. That's the point. FUN is something very
subjective.
How is it different for Buss to play Ivey in poker from you play MJ in
basketball.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: totally different. these things are fun. playing BB with MJ is not for
: either for him or me. PASS. I would not even bother to drive 10 mils to
: play with him for free.....
:
: traveling
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 33 it is all about dream, actually I call it affordable dream.
但是现实是残酷第，年纪越大，被生活磨砺越多，越意识到，偶像、梦想之类的东西真
的是尼玛浮云，随之慢慢降低目标，回归实际，另一方面，开始算计自己还有多少年头
可以打拼，甚至开始计划退休了。
所以小popo和tbs两代人说两代话，其实也是可以理解。
哥还是那句话，最重要的是你知道自己在做什么，自己觉得值得就可以。 |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 34 就是这样。 popo 估计也就是个九零后吧？ 小毛孩子， 叔叔们的悲剧他不能理解哈。
。 哎
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: it is all about dream, actually I call it affordable dream.
: 但是现实是残酷第，年纪越大，被生活磨砺越多，越意识到，偶像、梦想之类的东西真
: 的是尼玛浮云，随之慢慢降低目标，回归实际，另一方面，开始算计自己还有多少年头
: 可以打拼，甚至开始计划退休了。
: 所以小popo和tbs两代人说两代话，其实也是可以理解。
: 哥还是那句话，最重要的是你知道自己在做什么，自己觉得值得就可以。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 35 其实我也不觉得和phil ivey 打牌会FUN。。。。不过如果我有buss 的 家产， 就会觉
得FUN. 对于buss 来说，这些pro 也就是一个戏子， 花钱寻点开心。 看着些pro 为
了他看起来也就是点小钱绞尽脑汁，我也会觉得FUN.
但这和打篮球也是没可比性的。。。。
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: YOU think these things are FUN. That's the point. FUN is something very
: subjective.
: How is it different for Buss to play Ivey in poker from you play MJ in
: basketball.
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 36 疯爆妹妹，这个属于人身攻击了啊
哈。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 就是这样。 popo 估计也就是个九零后吧？ 小毛孩子， 叔叔们的悲剧他不能理解哈。
: 。 哎
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 37 Isilder doesnt know how to book winnings because he plays for challenge.
Leatherass and nanonoka play only for money. Like apples and oranges.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 38 I don't really know the meaning of play poker for challenge. They all poker
players trying to win money to make a living. Well, even that challenge part
is true, Isulder1 failed as a winning poker player because his result
showed he is not up to the challenge.
He is not a newbie now. He played for several years and had millions of hand
history. His online result speak for itself:
http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Isildur1.aspx?show=2013#gr
Just look at the graph, and choose this year, at the peak, he won well over
4.5 Million in July, now he is back to even.
He sure get poker talent and skills. Nobody deny that. But if you believe
poker players are just playing cards at the table and be out-smart most of
the players, and you easily brush off other aspects of the skills like tilt
control, bank roll management, table selection, game selection,etc. You
seriously underestimate what takes to be a winning professional poker
players. I think it is very hard. As a recreational players, I sometimes
even stress out. Like successful stock traders, I give those guys respect
because it is very hard to face uncertainty every day and still be
successful. |
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 39 IMO,playing for challenge may be very similar to playing for ego. Isildur
will play HU with anyone in this world. He may not think he has edge over
durrrr or ivey, but he does not think he is an underdog either, for sure.
His earning in his bank account is enough for his living expenses, the rest
of it is for working, not for spending. You can say playing a player without
edge is gambling, but what is wrong with it?
Playing for money will avoid stronger players, players on the same level, or
players that you may have only a little edge on because that would not
maximize your winning. Leatherass and nanonoko will never ever play HU with
"isilder" level players.
There is no right or wrong for these two styles. What you value most decides
what you do.
poker
part
hand
over
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: I don't really know the meaning of play poker for challenge. They all poker
: players trying to win money to make a living. Well, even that challenge part
: is true, Isulder1 failed as a winning poker player because his result
: showed he is not up to the challenge.
: He is not a newbie now. He played for several years and had millions of hand
: history. His online result speak for itself:
: http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Isildur1.aspx?show=2013#gr
: Just look at the graph, and choose this year, at the peak, he won well over
: 4.5 Million in July, now he is back to even.
: He sure get poker talent and skills. Nobody deny that. But if you believe
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 40 Where I said there is some wrong with isilder1? None. I just state the
obvious.
Everyone has his own lifestyle. They are free to live with it. But as a well
-known players, ppl are entitled to have their opinions on him. that is all. |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 41 Well I said "you" as a general term, not you thebigslick. Sorry for the
misunderstanding.
well
all.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Where I said there is some wrong with isilder1? None. I just state the
: obvious.
: Everyone has his own lifestyle. They are free to live with it. But as a well
: -known players, ppl are entitled to have their opinions on him. that is all.
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 42 Damn, ACR's cashout services is really really fast. I submitted the withdraw
request and I was told today the request has already been processed.
A $200 profit, but takes 3 days work. Could have won more, but I shipped
100bb preflop in SB holding TTs against Btn Regulars' 4 bet in a 3 handed 6
max game, Btn Reg had KKs. What else is new? Even 3 handed, Reg still has
very tight of range making 4 bet. Should have know better.
Anyway, has to give ACR credit for the cashout. Too bad I decide to close
the door since every time I sit down I have to very focused. The reward is
not good enough for the stress and late night sleep.
In the meantime, had a 2k rush on Lock last week, submitted the cashout a
couple days ago and the status still not changed for a bit. Come on. |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 43 cashout at lock really sucks. I am very encouraged that you received your
first withdraw. Maybe I can receive mine in a few months as well...
withdraw
6
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Damn, ACR's cashout services is really really fast. I submitted the withdraw
: request and I was told today the request has already been processed.
: A $200 profit, but takes 3 days work. Could have won more, but I shipped
: 100bb preflop in SB holding TTs against Btn Regulars' 4 bet in a 3 handed 6
: max game, Btn Reg had KKs. What else is new? Even 3 handed, Reg still has
: very tight of range making 4 bet. Should have know better.
: Anyway, has to give ACR credit for the cashout. Too bad I decide to close
: the door since every time I sit down I have to very focused. The reward is
: not good enough for the stress and late night sleep.
: In the meantime, had a 2k rush on Lock last week, submitted the cashout a
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 44 Lock 实在 cash out 太慢。WSN 脑筋动到 ACR 上。看 poker cashout tracking. ACR
的 cashout 是数一数二的。坑爹的 Bovada 不让纽约州注册，ACR 成为不二的选择。
前天住了个册，虽说有 1000 的 deposit bonus, 非不让俺 deposit 超过 250。逼得
哥只有 250 了。
钱一到户，直奔牌桌，哥直接就上 NL100 了。版花打 NL 10/20 临场就带 2.5 的
full buyin. 俺觉得俺比版花更强，俺整个 bankroll 就 2.5 个 buyin.
在 Lock 打得多了，尤其在一群 Reg 都走了以后，打得很顺，game is so soft, 觉得
自己水平大概是很高了，NL100 在 ACR 应该也是如此。
结果大错特错，就我打过的几个网站来说， ACR 的 NL100， NL 50 应该是 Reg 最多
，鱼最少的。Short stack 的所谓的鱼也就是一般的 weak loose, 也不会瞎搞纯
donate.运气也不是太好，紧了半天，一对 KK 给一个 Reg 不知道为什么用 JJs 4-bet
shove，然后 suck out. 没办法，只好降级打 NL50，一上桌一看，还是那几个熟面孔。
谁是 Reg 一般打个一两天就能看出来，一般桌子上有一半 Reg 就没什么搞头。 ACR
的桌子上似乎 Reg 的比例特多。
最坑爹的是 ACR 的 showdown 只 show winning hands，losing hand 的底牌在 hand
history 里看不到，(lock 就可以看)。对哥这个不用任何 poker tracking 软件的人
来说，简直一点额外的 information 都收集不到。
哥搞了两天，全无打牌的乐趣，要么绞脑汁要 outplay 人家，要么等牌等到脑汁都没
了。总之这两天我没好好过日子。250 变成了 150， 150 变成 100。
尼玛赶紧填表 cashout，准备能提出来多少就多少，哥要 cut loss。尼玛，正在填表
的时候，牌突然来了，100 半小时变 400。
但不管了，哥照样要撤。打牌就是要跟鱼打，其乐无穷。用 Rounders 的话来说，桌上
找不到鱼，那我自己就是鱼。俺不当鱼！ |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 45 ACR是可以存超过1k的，用WU。而且手续费网站会返还。
就player的水平来说， ACR确实比lock高太多了……
因为cashout快，所以reg都在这里玩。只要想想leatherass打NL200，大概就能对这个
网站的水平有个感觉了 |
c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 46 APR都有什么deposit option 呢？ |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 Lz觉得自己比女赌神还强。 厉害！
ACR
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Lock 实在 cash out 太慢。WSN 脑筋动到 ACR 上。看 poker cashout tracking. ACR
: 的 cashout 是数一数二的。坑爹的 Bovada 不让纽约州注册，ACR 成为不二的选择。
: 前天住了个册，虽说有 1000 的 deposit bonus, 非不让俺 deposit 超过 250。逼得
: 哥只有 250 了。
: 钱一到户，直奔牌桌，哥直接就上 NL100 了。版花打 NL 10/20 临场就带 2.5 的
: full buyin. 俺觉得俺比版花更强，俺整个 bankroll 就 2.5 个 buyin.
: 在 Lock 打得多了，尤其在一群 Reg 都走了以后，打得很顺，game is so soft, 觉得
: 自己水平大概是很高了，NL100 在 ACR 应该也是如此。
: 结果大错特错，就我打过的几个网站来说， ACR 的 NL100， NL 50 应该是 Reg 最多
: ，鱼最少的。Short stack 的所谓的鱼也就是一般的 weak loose, 也不会瞎搞纯
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 48 为什么话从你嘴里出来就变得那么酸呢？
我现在觉得你不是人品的问题，是人格的问题。
好心劝一句，以后有关MM的事，你什么也别说。这样你整个人看上去还算正常。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Lz觉得自己比女赌神还强。 厉害！
:
: ACR
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
|
z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 49 俺也回报一下战况。。。
9月份开始玩ACR，几乎每天玩至少一个小时，已有三周了。同样发现ACR确实reg多鱼少
不好打，玩NL100和NL200都是同样的对手，必须慎重行事，要有耐心和creativity，呵
呵。。。战况还可以，先后存了800刀，昨天打到了近2000刀（包括bonus和rakeback)
，要不是输80刀给popokaka，成绩还会更好，他领俺入的门，也算回报吧，请笑纳，哈
哈哈哈。。。
希望11月份NJ可以有更多网上选择，说不定又可以回到最爱的PS。在ACR玩完bonus就走
人，打一枪换个地方，多年策略，哈哈。。。 |
z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 50 leatherass是谁？
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: ACR是可以存超过1k的，用WU。而且手续费网站会返还。
: 就player的水平来说， ACR确实比lock高太多了……
: 因为cashout快，所以reg都在这里玩。只要想想leatherass打NL200，大概就能对这个
: 网站的水平有个感觉了
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 51 online star, author of famous book, "treat your poker as a business".
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: leatherass是谁？
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 52 credit card 和 west union
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: APR都有什么deposit option 呢？
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 53 这理解能力。 还来人身攻击。 只有封你几天了。
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 为什么话从你嘴里出来就变得那么酸呢？
: 我现在觉得你不是人品的问题，是人格的问题。
: 好心劝一句，以后有关MM的事，你什么也别说。这样你整个人看上去还算正常。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 54 哥再来重申一下。 斑竹我很佩服女赌神的自信和勇气， 能玩10/20 本身就是很牛B的
一件事。扑克这东西就是以成败论英雄。女赌神如果升上去，站稳了，就是扑克班第一人
，没有之一， 那么哥以后就是女赌神的第一粉丝加护花使者。 （理解力比较差的同学
，比
如wmwmw, 请按字面意思理解， 不要又上来瞎解释乱咬。）
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这理解能力。 还来人身攻击。 只有封你几天了。
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 55 I just found out the stupid ACR even take rake for BJJ money. Even a 3
dollars pot take like $0.25 as BJJ, plus the regular house rake. That is
high way robbery.
It make NL50 almost unplayable unless you can open 4+ table at the same time
. BTW, My IQ only allows me to open 2 tables. I am slow :)
I am not too worried about those Reg. But all in all, it is not very
profitable to play them. In Lock, I regularly build my bankroll from $100-$
200. But in ACR, because there are so many regulars, I need at least $700-$
800 so I can mix up and not too worry about busted out.
God damn, if only Lock can get their act together. I like their UI, like
that I can see hold cards from hand history, like their player pool (more
fishes). |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 56 战绩很好。赞
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: 俺也回报一下战况。。。
: 9月份开始玩ACR，几乎每天玩至少一个小时，已有三周了。同样发现ACR确实reg多鱼少
: 不好打，玩NL100和NL200都是同样的对手，必须慎重行事，要有耐心和creativity，呵
: 呵。。。战况还可以，先后存了800刀，昨天打到了近2000刀（包括bonus和rakeback)
: ，要不是输80刀给popokaka，成绩还会更好，他领俺入的门，也算回报吧，请笑纳，哈
: 哈哈哈。。。
: 希望11月份NJ可以有更多网上选择，说不定又可以回到最爱的PS。在ACR玩完bonus就走
: 人，打一枪换个地方，多年策略，哈哈。。。
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 57 ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
time
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: I just found out the stupid ACR even take rake for BJJ money. Even a 3
: dollars pot take like $0.25 as BJJ, plus the regular house rake. That is
: high way robbery.
: It make NL50 almost unplayable unless you can open 4+ table at the same time
: . BTW, My IQ only allows me to open 2 tables. I am slow :)
: I am not too worried about those Reg. But all in all, it is not very
: profitable to play them. In Lock, I regularly build my bankroll from $100-$
: 200. But in ACR, because there are so many regulars, I need at least $700-$
: 800 so I can mix up and not too worry about busted out.
: God damn, if only Lock can get their act together. I like their UI, like
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 58 Not fun if the game becomes a full grind. If the edge is small, which I
admit I am in this case, I have to spend more time and be more patient. For
a small amount of money?
A huge part of winning poker is to find fish and find the player who is
weaker than you. If fish pool is small, there is little need to continue to
grind. And we have to move on.
Heard Bovada's player pool is pretty good. Unfortunately they don't open
business in NY state. For you guys live in NJ and open to every playing room
and even have chance to play poker star, you all should be very happy.
+2.
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
: But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
: moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
:
: time
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 59 I always consider myself as a recreational player. I play for fun not for
money.
Playing fish is not fun
For
to
room
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Not fun if the game becomes a full grind. If the edge is small, which I
: admit I am in this case, I have to spend more time and be more patient. For
: a small amount of money?
: A huge part of winning poker is to find fish and find the player who is
: weaker than you. If fish pool is small, there is little need to continue to
: grind. And we have to move on.
: Heard Bovada's player pool is pretty good. Unfortunately they don't open
: business in NY state. For you guys live in NJ and open to every playing room
: and even have chance to play poker star, you all should be very happy.
:
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 60 Partically agree, it's definitely fun to play poker with friends with small
stakes, we have friendly games all the time...but to play for a long time
and have more fun, you need try to make money somehow, otherwise this good
hobby can't go for long, playing fish is the key to make money and it's more
fun to me, sometimes too bad if you find yourself is the fish, you have to
run...:)
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: I always consider myself as a recreational player. I play for fun not for
: money.
: Playing fish is not fun
:
: For
: to
: room
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 61 上周跟着zhangsan上了nl100 跟个巨凶的玩家tangle了两手牌 直接破产的飘过
哥表示 对acr的界面还是不适应 |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 62 No fun playing against guys better than you. It is fun though to watch their
training video or hand analysis video and learn from them. That is two
different things.
To playing guys always know where they at, or super nit, is more painful
than losing to a lucky fish. Against fish, you know you eventually gonna get
it back. Against good players or nit, not so much. Eventually, the fun of
winning meaningful money take over everything.
Personally, my biggest happiness will be fish shoving 100bb+ on your head
and you are holding the stone cold nuts. Ask Teacher MM and he will have a
field day and posting another 20+ hand history. |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 63 Yeah, being able to make money from poker table is good. But obviously you
make way more money from your full-time job.If just for money, a lot of
things like e-business or stocks make more money than playing poker.
I've played chess for very long time before playing poker. Though never won
a dime by doing that, I enjoyed the game a lot by out-thinking strong
opponents.
To me,poker is just the same as chess, making some money is the bonus.
Grinding at lower stakes mechanically is the same as doing a part-time job
at KFC, money wise and intelligence wise
small
more
to
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Partically agree, it's definitely fun to play poker with friends with small
: stakes, we have friendly games all the time...but to play for a long time
: and have more fun, you need try to make money somehow, otherwise this good
: hobby can't go for long, playing fish is the key to make money and it's more
: fun to me, sometimes too bad if you find yourself is the fish, you have to
: run...:)
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 64 I actually don't agree.
If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
I definitely will.
If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
their
get
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No fun playing against guys better than you. It is fun though to watch their
: training video or hand analysis video and learn from them. That is two
: different things.
: To playing guys always know where they at, or super nit, is more painful
: than losing to a lucky fish. Against fish, you know you eventually gonna get
: it back. Against good players or nit, not so much. Eventually, the fun of
: winning meaningful money take over everything.
: Personally, my biggest happiness will be fish shoving 100bb+ on your head
: and you are holding the stone cold nuts. Ask Teacher MM and he will have a
: field day and posting another 20+ hand history.
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 65 No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
getting fun for getting owned?
Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
it?
with
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: I actually don't agree.
: If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
: I definitely will.
: If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
:
: their
: get
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 66 yeah, that's our difference
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 67 If MJ tries, I don't think I can even touch the ball. But still worth the
price. Some people willing to spend millions for space traveling, is that
really more fun than watch a movie at home? To some people yes, to some
people no.
Opponent selecting is a very important skill for pros. But again I am
recreational.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 68 It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
course, "keeps his winning".
Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 69 not poker related. but.. paying 2 G to play with MJ on a basketball court
is.. en... dumb.... from a guy who play basketball weekly and would give up
going to casino to play B-ball over the weekend.... |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 70 Sure, at his peak, he made well over 4m this year and has been this year
biggest winner.
But the only problem is he gave most of this winning back, like he always
does, to the players. And he has to move down again to build his bankroll.
He is doing this over and over and over again through his career. In
lifetime, he is several millions in a hole based on poker tracking results.
If not for PS sponser money, he probably has to play NL100 now.
Gambler can win or lose millions, what is new? Archie Karas turned 50
dollars to 40 millions, in 70s. Isuldur1 in his dream can't even win that
much. But what about now?
only
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
: best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
: playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
: course, "keeps his winning".
: Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
: made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
: most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
:
: take
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 71 People are just different, some just play for challenge and entertainment,
and welcome every chance to test their skills against top-caliber opponents,
I think it's nothing wrong as long as people enjoy doing it...I once
challenged a prefessional Weiqi 9p for a fun game, she simply destroyed me,
yes, it's lot of fun:) |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 72 Variance is part of the game, especially at higher stakes. If you can't
accept the variance,then it's not your game. Isildur was up about 3.7m until
August. I'm not sure about august and September, if you are, plz post the
link.
Archie Karas is different, he lost all his money by playing dice. Of course,
he is a great poker player. But playing dice is just suicide. I don't see
how this has anything to do with isildur, does he play dice as well?
Sure he may go broke in the future. Wall street bankers go broker. I may go
broke playing NL100. I won't say anything until that actually happens.
.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Sure, at his peak, he made well over 4m this year and has been this year
: biggest winner.
: But the only problem is he gave most of this winning back, like he always
: does, to the players. And he has to move down again to build his bankroll.
: He is doing this over and over and over again through his career. In
: lifetime, he is several millions in a hole based on poker tracking results.
: If not for PS sponser money, he probably has to play NL100 now.
: Gambler can win or lose millions, what is new? Archie Karas turned 50
: dollars to 40 millions, in 70s. Isuldur1 in his dream can't even win that
: much. But what about now?
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 73 yeah, I think driving a 200k car is dumb... from a guy who drive everyday.
spend millions for space traveling
is insane ...from a guy loves sifi. Jerry buss is beyond stupid to spend
hundred of thousands dollars to play with the pros... from a guy who plays
poker everyday.
Thank god people think different, otherwise the world is just so boring
up
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: not poker related. but.. paying 2 G to play with MJ on a basketball court
: is.. en... dumb.... from a guy who play basketball weekly and would give up
: going to casino to play B-ball over the weekend....
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 74 totally different. these things are fun. playing BB with MJ is not for
either for him or me. PASS. I would not even bother to drive 10 mils to
play with him for free.....
traveling
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: yeah, I think driving a 200k car is dumb... from a guy who drive everyday.
: spend millions for space traveling
: is insane ...from a guy loves sifi. Jerry buss is beyond stupid to spend
: hundred of thousands dollars to play with the pros... from a guy who plays
: poker everyday.
: Thank god people think different, otherwise the world is just so boring
:
: up
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 75 YOU think these things are FUN. That's the point. FUN is something very
subjective.
How is it different for Buss to play Ivey in poker from you play MJ in
basketball.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: totally different. these things are fun. playing BB with MJ is not for
: either for him or me. PASS. I would not even bother to drive 10 mils to
: play with him for free.....
:
: traveling
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 76 it is all about dream, actually I call it affordable dream.
但是现实是残酷第，年纪越大，被生活磨砺越多，越意识到，偶像、梦想之类的东西真
的是尼玛浮云，随之慢慢降低目标，回归实际，另一方面，开始算计自己还有多少年头
可以打拼，甚至开始计划退休了。
所以小popo和tbs两代人说两代话，其实也是可以理解。
哥还是那句话，最重要的是你知道自己在做什么，自己觉得值得就可以。 |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 77 就是这样。 popo 估计也就是个九零后吧？ 小毛孩子， 叔叔们的悲剧他不能理解哈。
。 哎
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: it is all about dream, actually I call it affordable dream.
: 但是现实是残酷第，年纪越大，被生活磨砺越多，越意识到，偶像、梦想之类的东西真
: 的是尼玛浮云，随之慢慢降低目标，回归实际，另一方面，开始算计自己还有多少年头
: 可以打拼，甚至开始计划退休了。
: 所以小popo和tbs两代人说两代话，其实也是可以理解。
: 哥还是那句话，最重要的是你知道自己在做什么，自己觉得值得就可以。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 78 其实我也不觉得和phil ivey 打牌会FUN。。。。不过如果我有buss 的 家产， 就会觉
得FUN. 对于buss 来说，这些pro 也就是一个戏子， 花钱寻点开心。 看着些pro 为
了他看起来也就是点小钱绞尽脑汁，我也会觉得FUN.
但这和打篮球也是没可比性的。。。。
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: YOU think these things are FUN. That's the point. FUN is something very
: subjective.
: How is it different for Buss to play Ivey in poker from you play MJ in
: basketball.
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 79 疯爆妹妹，这个属于人身攻击了啊
哈。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 就是这样。 popo 估计也就是个九零后吧？ 小毛孩子， 叔叔们的悲剧他不能理解哈。
: 。 哎
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 80 Isilder doesnt know how to book winnings because he plays for challenge.
Leatherass and nanonoka play only for money. Like apples and oranges.
take
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: No way I will pay 2 grand to play MJ. I can assure you any NBA player can
: crash 98% of ppl on this planet. If they try, you won't even be able to take
: a semi accurate shot. It won't be a fair game. It is pure ownage. Are you
: getting fun for getting owned?
: Isildur1 might be a good NL player, but he is a bad poker player who can't
: keep his winning, who don't know how to select his game and his opponents.
: Poker is a lot more just playing two/four cards on the table.
:
: it?
: with
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 81 I don't really know the meaning of play poker for challenge. They all poker
players trying to win money to make a living. Well, even that challenge part
is true, Isulder1 failed as a winning poker player because his result
showed he is not up to the challenge.
He is not a newbie now. He played for several years and had millions of hand
history. His online result speak for itself:
http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Isildur1.aspx?show=2013#gr
Just look at the graph, and choose this year, at the peak, he won well over
4.5 Million in July, now he is back to even.
He sure get poker talent and skills. Nobody deny that. But if you believe
poker players are just playing cards at the table and be out-smart most of
the players, and you easily brush off other aspects of the skills like tilt
control, bank roll management, table selection, game selection,etc. You
seriously underestimate what takes to be a winning professional poker
players. I think it is very hard. As a recreational players, I sometimes
even stress out. Like successful stock traders, I give those guys respect
because it is very hard to face uncertainty every day and still be
successful. |
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 82 IMO,playing for challenge may be very similar to playing for ego. Isildur
will play HU with anyone in this world. He may not think he has edge over
durrrr or ivey, but he does not think he is an underdog either, for sure.
His earning in his bank account is enough for his living expenses, the rest
of it is for working, not for spending. You can say playing a player without
edge is gambling, but what is wrong with it?
Playing for money will avoid stronger players, players on the same level, or
players that you may have only a little edge on because that would not
maximize your winning. Leatherass and nanonoko will never ever play HU with
"isilder" level players.
There is no right or wrong for these two styles. What you value most decides
what you do.
poker
part
hand
over
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: I don't really know the meaning of play poker for challenge. They all poker
: players trying to win money to make a living. Well, even that challenge part
: is true, Isulder1 failed as a winning poker player because his result
: showed he is not up to the challenge.
: He is not a newbie now. He played for several years and had millions of hand
: history. His online result speak for itself:
: http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Isildur1.aspx?show=2013#gr
: Just look at the graph, and choose this year, at the peak, he won well over
: 4.5 Million in July, now he is back to even.
: He sure get poker talent and skills. Nobody deny that. But if you believe
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 83 Where I said there is some wrong with isilder1? None. I just state the
obvious.
Everyone has his own lifestyle. They are free to live with it. But as a well
-known players, ppl are entitled to have their opinions on him. that is all. |
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 84 Well I said "you" as a general term, not you thebigslick. Sorry for the
misunderstanding.
well
all.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Where I said there is some wrong with isilder1? None. I just state the
: obvious.
: Everyone has his own lifestyle. They are free to live with it. But as a well
: -known players, ppl are entitled to have their opinions on him. that is all.
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 85 Damn, ACR's cashout services is really really fast. I submitted the withdraw
request and I was told today the request has already been processed.
A $200 profit, but takes 3 days work. Could have won more, but I shipped
100bb preflop in SB holding TTs against Btn Regulars' 4 bet in a 3 handed 6
max game, Btn Reg had KKs. What else is new? Even 3 handed, Reg still has
very tight of range making 4 bet. Should have know better.
Anyway, has to give ACR credit for the cashout. Too bad I decide to close
the door since every time I sit down I have to very focused. The reward is
not good enough for the stress and late night sleep.
In the meantime, had a 2k rush on Lock last week, submitted the cashout a
couple days ago and the status still not changed for a bit. Come on. |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 86 cashout at lock really sucks. I am very encouraged that you received your
first withdraw. Maybe I can receive mine in a few months as well...
withdraw
6
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Damn, ACR's cashout services is really really fast. I submitted the withdraw
: request and I was told today the request has already been processed.
: A $200 profit, but takes 3 days work. Could have won more, but I shipped
: 100bb preflop in SB holding TTs against Btn Regulars' 4 bet in a 3 handed 6
: max game, Btn Reg had KKs. What else is new? Even 3 handed, Reg still has
: very tight of range making 4 bet. Should have know better.
: Anyway, has to give ACR credit for the cashout. Too bad I decide to close
: the door since every time I sit down I have to very focused. The reward is
: not good enough for the stress and late night sleep.
: In the meantime, had a 2k rush on Lock last week, submitted the cashout a
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a******7
发帖数: 28 | 87 楼主,最近对online很有兴趣. 之前打过pokerstar,想问一下有没有什么美国的online
网站的交流群?
ACR
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Lock 实在 cash out 太慢。WSN 脑筋动到 ACR 上。看 poker cashout tracking. ACR
: 的 cashout 是数一数二的。坑爹的 Bovada 不让纽约州注册，ACR 成为不二的选择。
: 前天住了个册，虽说有 1000 的 deposit bonus, 非不让俺 deposit 超过 250。逼得
: 哥只有 250 了。
: 钱一到户，直奔牌桌，哥直接就上 NL100 了。版花打 NL 10/20 临场就带 2.5 的
: full buyin. 俺觉得俺比版花更强，俺整个 bankroll 就 2.5 个 buyin.
: 在 Lock 打得多了，尤其在一群 Reg 都走了以后，打得很顺，game is so soft, 觉得
: 自己水平大概是很高了，NL100 在 ACR 应该也是如此。
: 结果大错特错，就我打过的几个网站来说， ACR 的 NL100， NL 50 应该是 Reg 最多
: ，鱼最少的。Short stack 的所谓的鱼也就是一般的 weak loose, 也不会瞎搞纯
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