R******d
发帖数: 976 | 1 both happened on a 3/5 table at local casino.
Hand1:
Villain is a local reg, young asian at his late 20s. Hero played few hands
with him before. Saw him the other day stacking off KK on a 34T3 board and
beat by 35s. Hero has a TAG image. V has 450 stack, hero covers.
Hero is dealt AKs at BB. Villain opens 20 from MP. BTN calls. SB folds. Hero
3bets to 75. Both V and BTN flat.
(Pot 213) Flop 446r
Hero cbets 120.
Villain tanks and shoves. BTN folds. Hero..?
Hand2:
Villain is a new guy, white male at late 20s. Only reference is early of the
same session he bet hero 3 streets allin on a 9 high board with Q9s and
lost to hero's A9. V has 270ish and hero covers.
5-way limped pot. Hero limps at CO with KJo.V checks at BB.
(Pot 20) Flop J62r
Check to hero who bets 15. Only V calls.
(pot 50) turn K. Now there is a flush draw.
V checks and hero bets 45. V tank calls.
(Pot 140) River 6
V checks and hero bets 65. V tank...and shove...Hero?? |
w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 2 Hand1: Villain leads on flop.
Hand2:
First I would not bet on flop when river come a 6.
You may think V have J(which is the only possibility that you can win).
But when he had top pair previously , he bet 3 streets, so it doesn't look
like he had top pair this time.
So I would fold on river. |
z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 3 Hand1: Fold, on flop V leads with a middle pair.
Hand2: I would fold. It's limped pot, V could have anything, possibly a boat
by the river, at least a 6, it beat your range, and V is very strong by
check-raising river...btw you may want to raise from KO with KJo... |
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 4 “First I would not bet on flop when river come a 6” how do you know on the
flop when river is a 6?
回正题，hand1没啥说的，扔
hand 2 这个river size太尴尬了，1-to-2 odds接对面shove，我能想到的情况里多数
时候你会被trips甚至boat吃掉，少数时候会有Kx/Jx在这乱搞，limped pot就是这点烦
人...我会扔
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Hand1: Villain leads on flop.
: Hand2:
: First I would not bet on flop when river come a 6.
: You may think V have J(which is the only possibility that you can win).
: But when he had top pair previously , he bet 3 streets, so it doesn't look
: like he had top pair this time.
: So I would fold on river.
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 5 My bad.
I meant not to bet on river, because a 6 came out.
the
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: “First I would not bet on flop when river come a 6” how do you know on the
: flop when river is a 6?
: 回正题，hand1没啥说的，扔
: hand 2 这个river size太尴尬了，1-to-2 odds接对面shove，我能想到的情况里多数
: 时候你会被trips甚至boat吃掉，少数时候会有Kx/Jx在这乱搞，limped pot就是这点烦
: 人...我会扔
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R******d
发帖数: 976 | 6 多谢以上各位
hnad1我是fold了 V showed a 4 after i folded. 这又带来一个其他问题 如果你
3bet with AA/KK，你这时会fold吗？
hand2是打错了 因为前面刚搞了个大pot，call得比较随意. v showed A6o. 还是那条
定律，在3/5，nobody c/r bluff river.
前面🈶盆友说open raise KJo，能展开说说吗？
the
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: “First I would not bet on flop when river come a 6” how do you know on the
: flop when river is a 6?
: 回正题，hand1没啥说的，扔
: hand 2 这个river size太尴尬了，1-to-2 odds接对面shove，我能想到的情况里多数
: 时候你会被trips甚至boat吃掉，少数时候会有Kx/Jx在这乱搞，limped pot就是这点烦
: 人...我会扔
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 7 AA/KK 很难fold。但是这里还是有一些讲究的。
水平好的对手应该不敢拿中对和你allin，因为你也可能是大对。
有些搞不清牌力的（比hand2那个）就可能拿中对这么干。所以对某些牌手还是可以
fold的。
hand2这牌，其实给出了这个对手很有用的information.
1.他分不清牌力，overplay，TPWK bet 3条街。
2.他有top pair就会bet，没有就会check，所以他的牌容易read。
3.他是个donk。中对call两条街。所以不要bluff他，有强牌只管大bet，他有top pair
（甚至中对）fold不掉。
【在 R******d 的大作中提到】
: 多谢以上各位
: hnad1我是fold了 V showed a 4 after i folded. 这又带来一个其他问题 如果你
: 3bet with AA/KK，你这时会fold吗？
: hand2是打错了 因为前面刚搞了个大pot，call得比较随意. v showed A6o. 还是那条
: 定律，在3/5，nobody c/r bluff river.
: 前面🈶盆友说open raise KJo，能展开说说吗？
:
: the
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 hand 1, 3bet size 略小，我会fold
hand 2，river no value to me because flop and turn bet too 狠 lol |
R******d
发帖数: 976 | 9 hand2的v有点calling station的资质，但这吧牌还是耍得可以
pair
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: AA/KK 很难fold。但是这里还是有一些讲究的。
: 水平好的对手应该不敢拿中对和你allin，因为你也可能是大对。
: 有些搞不清牌力的（比hand2那个）就可能拿中对这么干。所以对某些牌手还是可以
: fold的。
: hand2这牌，其实给出了这个对手很有用的information.
: 1.他分不清牌力，overplay，TPWK bet 3条街。
: 2.他有top pair就会bet，没有就会check，所以他的牌容易read。
: 3.他是个donk。中对call两条街。所以不要bluff他，有强牌只管大bet，他有top pair
: （甚至中对）fold不掉。
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R******d
发帖数: 976 | 10 hand1发生在早上8点过，整桌都比较tight passive，3bet 75应该可以捡钱了，如果V
不call，btn也不会call
hand2安以为v是在drawing，因为不大像有J或46两队，所以bet得比较大，river6以后
就觉得他是air。过后想如果这样，应该直接check behind的，因为除了6x/44不会有其
他能call 65的牌
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: hand 1, 3bet size 略小，我会fold
: hand 2，river no value to me because flop and turn bet too 狠 lol
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A*******e
发帖数: 4024 | 11 Some thoughts about hand 2. If I were the hero, I would bet more on the flop
. btw, on the flop, the pot was 25.
Say I bet 25, V called.
Pot is 75, I will bet 55-60 on the turn when the K comes.
If he called, the pot would be 185-195.
On the river, I may not be able to fold to a his c/r if I bet the river.
The point here is, if I think I was ahead, I will try to let the villian
commit as early as possible because he is short stack.
Hero
【在 R******d 的大作中提到】
: both happened on a 3/5 table at local casino.
: Hand1:
: Villain is a local reg, young asian at his late 20s. Hero played few hands
: with him before. Saw him the other day stacking off KK on a 34T3 board and
: beat by 35s. Hero has a TAG image. V has 450 stack, hero covers.
: Hero is dealt AKs at BB. Villain opens 20 from MP. BTN calls. SB folds. Hero
: 3bets to 75. Both V and BTN flat.
: (Pot 213) Flop 446r
: Hero cbets 120.
: Villain tanks and shoves. BTN folds. Hero..?
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