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b*****y
发帖数: 163
1
There is a special column in current issue of "Nature"
talking many aspects of Chinese science. Most articles
are written by overseas Chinese. FYI.
q*n
发帖数: 1203
2

seems you are following all the magazines. :)

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: There is a special column in current issue of "Nature"
: talking many aspects of Chinese science. Most articles
: are written by overseas Chinese. FYI.

b*****y
发帖数: 163
3

i am not following magazines. in these days, the only thing you need is
an email account. once upon you surrender your privacy to those publishers,
they enthusiastically, automatically and periodically send you emails as
so-called alerts, reminders and notices, etc. and in most cases, with such
a prototypical email you will find a hyperlink on which you can
conveniently click with one of the buttons on your mouse. if without any
compatibility issue, one of your favorite browsers will be brought

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
:
: seems you are following all the magazines. :)

q*n
发帖数: 1203
4
//Admire.
I seriously suspect you have a plan to use this bbs as a place to practice E
nglish, aren't you?
No offense. Maybe i should do that too. :)

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
:
: i am not following magazines. in these days, the only thing you need is
: an email account. once upon you surrender your privacy to those publishers,
: they enthusiastically, automatically and periodically send you emails as
: so-called alerts, reminders and notices, etc. and in most cases, with such
: a prototypical email you will find a hyperlink on which you can
: conveniently click with one of the buttons on your mouse. if without any
: compatibility issue, one of your favorite browsers will be brought

b*****y
发帖数: 163
5
your suspicion is dismissed. the fact is that i don't know how to use any
fast chinese input method.
most Chinese are brainy. it means that people think too much without
intelligence. such as waste too much neuron waves on language issues.
this is a very dark corner and weak point of Chinese culture. relax, do
whatever makes you feel appropriate and comfortable. we are here having fun.
if we are lucky, we get our points delivered and ideas exchanged. we can
occationally get something constructiv

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: //Admire.
: I seriously suspect you have a plan to use this bbs as a place to practice E
: nglish, aren't you?
: No offense. Maybe i should do that too. :)

q*n
发帖数: 1203
6
sigh, you ARE the brainy chinese.
Maybe my english did not convey my joke well, all I thought was that it takes
a special reason for a certain ID to start write out a well-formed
college-style essay whenever he gets the chance.
But this one, will be failing as a college essay, since it gives out not
supported, overgeneralized and blatantly biased statements on one culture, and
all of which are not even slightly related to the post this lengthy arguments
are supposed to be replying on.
I am sorry

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: your suspicion is dismissed. the fact is that i don't know how to use any
: fast chinese input method.
: most Chinese are brainy. it means that people think too much without
: intelligence. such as waste too much neuron waves on language issues.
: this is a very dark corner and weak point of Chinese culture. relax, do
: whatever makes you feel appropriate and comfortable. we are here having fun.
: if we are lucky, we get our points delivered and ideas exchanged. we can
: occationally get something constructiv

b*****y
发帖数: 163
7
i must apologize. your joke was well understood and appreciated with no
question. i wrote under certain context, which was not aimed at your post.
the context spans at least a couple years long. you might consider to
withdraw your sorry. i hope i can write something well-supported, less
generalized and midpoint-posed, next time.
unfortunately, it is generalized to attack a culture which all people share
in this bbs. hence, the danger is that subjective emotion could be hardly
avoided. it is poli

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: sigh, you ARE the brainy chinese.
: Maybe my english did not convey my joke well, all I thought was that it takes
: a special reason for a certain ID to start write out a well-formed
: college-style essay whenever he gets the chance.
: But this one, will be failing as a college essay, since it gives out not
: supported, overgeneralized and blatantly biased statements on one culture, and
: all of which are not even slightly related to the post this lengthy arguments
: are supposed to be replying on.
: I am sorry

q*n
发帖数: 1203
8
Well, My opinion is that it is better to address a more solid issue with bet
ter-supported arguments. It is ok to talk in a context, but not to address
entirely to this year long context.
Also, I am not sure if the useage of "you" is appropriate in your post, I feel
you are constantly making remotely-true conjectures on how I think. This is a b
it annoying from an audience's stand.

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: i must apologize. your joke was well understood and appreciated with no
: question. i wrote under certain context, which was not aimed at your post.
: the context spans at least a couple years long. you might consider to
: withdraw your sorry. i hope i can write something well-supported, less
: generalized and midpoint-posed, next time.
: unfortunately, it is generalized to attack a culture which all people share
: in this bbs. hence, the danger is that subjective emotion could be hardly
: avoided. it is poli

b*****y
发帖数: 163
9
Ok, without further confusion, i catagorize my post into random or
spontaneous thoughts, which were obviously far from solid.
by the way, the "you" is used in a generally friendly or a neutral way. it
was particularly true for the last sentence. i apologize if you are annoyed,
at the same time suggest you to desensitize your reading attitude a little.

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: Well, My opinion is that it is better to address a more solid issue with bet
: ter-supported arguments. It is ok to talk in a context, but not to address
: entirely to this year long context.
: Also, I am not sure if the useage of "you" is appropriate in your post, I feel
: you are constantly making remotely-true conjectures on how I think. This is a b
: it annoying from an audience's stand.

q*n
发帖数: 1203
10

hmm, that is interesting. Maybe you can explain it a little bit?
i apologize if you are annoyed,
bet
feel
is a b
post.
share
hardly
with
incorrect.
when
thing
offended(automatically).
the
all

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: Ok, without further confusion, i catagorize my post into random or
: spontaneous thoughts, which were obviously far from solid.
: by the way, the "you" is used in a generally friendly or a neutral way. it
: was particularly true for the last sentence. i apologize if you are annoyed,
: at the same time suggest you to desensitize your reading attitude a little.

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b*****y
发帖数: 163
11
any explanation will twist it further :-). nothing negative
was put into it. it was not my intention to annoy you, and
"mad" is not necessarily bad. etc..
let's just stop messing up with this and move on to
address some serious and solid stuff.

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
:
: hmm, that is interesting. Maybe you can explain it a little bit?
: i apologize if you are annoyed,
: bet
: feel
: is a b
: post.
: share
: hardly
: with

q*n
发帖数: 1203
12
that is ok.
就是我自己写东西的时候对什么时候用“you"很敏感,不知道怎么用。
还有就象我在上一片贴子里说的,不建议先猜度,在猜度上费笔墨。

it

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: any explanation will twist it further :-). nothing negative
: was put into it. it was not my intention to annoy you, and
: "mad" is not necessarily bad. etc..
: let's just stop messing up with this and move on to
: address some serious and solid stuff.

s***l
发帖数: 2236
13
英语就是害人,blahblahblah都是废话。:)

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: any explanation will twist it further :-). nothing negative
: was put into it. it was not my intention to annoy you, and
: "mad" is not necessarily bad. etc..
: let's just stop messing up with this and move on to
: address some serious and solid stuff.

w**a
发帖数: 1024
14
有同感,上课听课感觉95%老师讲的都是废话。

publishers,
so-called
strategies

【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 英语就是害人,blahblahblah都是废话。:)
h*****e
发帖数: 59
15
还没想睡就考了古,忍不住说两句, 趁夜深人静.
u need to relax too.
the "very dark corner and weak point" u mentioned does not uniquely exist
in Chinese culture. it applies to the mankind at large.
其实你所提到的这种现象跟人性有关多于跟中国文化有关. 与生俱来的自尊心虚
荣心以及于成长过程中产生的民族自豪感在"自己不如人"的情况下容易使人产生自卑羡慕
甚至嫉妒的心理. 在自卑的状态下人自然比较容易敏感和受刺激. 这与哪国文化无关. 如
果你说美国人普遍就不这样, 那是因为他们有比较强的优越感.
通俗一点讲, 如果我长的很丑, 你却要在我面前展示你的美丽(经意或不经意的). 我自然
不舒服. 也许除了不舒服, 我还会说, 现在双眼皮大眼睛不流行了, (我们的)单眼皮才
是最时尚的. 或者说: 显摆什么呀, 卖弄风姿, 真是浅薄庸俗. 但是如果我自己就是美
女, 而且比你还美, 对于你的展现我大概就不那么在意. 无论哪国人, 产生这样的

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: your suspicion is dismissed. the fact is that i don't know how to use any
: fast chinese input method.
: most Chinese are brainy. it means that people think too much without
: intelligence. such as waste too much neuron waves on language issues.
: this is a very dark corner and weak point of Chinese culture. relax, do
: whatever makes you feel appropriate and comfortable. we are here having fun.
: if we are lucky, we get our points delivered and ideas exchanged. we can
: occationally get something constructiv

s***n
发帖数: 821
16
agree... hehe

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: 还没想睡就考了古,忍不住说两句, 趁夜深人静.
: u need to relax too.
: the "very dark corner and weak point" u mentioned does not uniquely exist
: in Chinese culture. it applies to the mankind at large.
: 其实你所提到的这种现象跟人性有关多于跟中国文化有关. 与生俱来的自尊心虚
: 荣心以及于成长过程中产生的民族自豪感在"自己不如人"的情况下容易使人产生自卑羡慕
: 甚至嫉妒的心理. 在自卑的状态下人自然比较容易敏感和受刺激. 这与哪国文化无关. 如
: 果你说美国人普遍就不这样, 那是因为他们有比较强的优越感.
: 通俗一点讲, 如果我长的很丑, 你却要在我面前展示你的美丽(经意或不经意的). 我自然
: 不舒服. 也许除了不舒服, 我还会说, 现在双眼皮大眼睛不流行了, (我们的)单眼皮才

b*****y
发帖数: 163
17
nature tells that creatures in same species can be biologically far apart
due to many varying factors such as living condition, environment and
geological differences. from the eyes of monkeys in africa, monkeys living
in southeast asian behave in a mysterious way. living beings are born
with such physical differences from day one. so talking about uniqueness
is much safer that talking about general principles, even at the biological
or natural level. if you generalize so-called human nature and

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: 还没想睡就考了古,忍不住说两句, 趁夜深人静.
: u need to relax too.
: the "very dark corner and weak point" u mentioned does not uniquely exist
: in Chinese culture. it applies to the mankind at large.
: 其实你所提到的这种现象跟人性有关多于跟中国文化有关. 与生俱来的自尊心虚
: 荣心以及于成长过程中产生的民族自豪感在"自己不如人"的情况下容易使人产生自卑羡慕
: 甚至嫉妒的心理. 在自卑的状态下人自然比较容易敏感和受刺激. 这与哪国文化无关. 如
: 果你说美国人普遍就不这样, 那是因为他们有比较强的优越感.
: 通俗一点讲, 如果我长的很丑, 你却要在我面前展示你的美丽(经意或不经意的). 我自然
: 不舒服. 也许除了不舒服, 我还会说, 现在双眼皮大眼睛不流行了, (我们的)单眼皮才

q*n
发帖数: 1203
18
哎,你这批评人的方法,难以服人。
象howcome那样,好歹也是就事论事,有理有据。
你要是有各版批人的兴致,不如好好自己写点东西,我们看着也有收益。
这么来几句,与人于己都无益处。

biological
hard
hard,
have
exist
卑羡慕
关. 如
我自然
眼皮才
就是美
想法是
就算
的.
attitude.

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: agree... hehe
h*****e
发帖数: 59
19
Hehe. I thought you knew better.
如果你硬要 emphasize biological and psychological differences among individual
human beings to an extreme extend, 也不肯承认人类具有的commonalities on a
macro scale, 你就更加不能把你在这里所体会到的 “unique” experience强扯到中国
文化的 “common ground”上去.
我并没有说世界上的每一个人在处理自尊心和自卑心理的时候都有我所讲的同样的reacti
on. Of course their reactions vary. 我只是告诉你这种现象不是在中国文化中所独有
的. 就象爱情, 不同文化背景下的人对爱的理解和爱的方式会有不同, 但是爱情的存在,
暗恋, 热恋, 失恋, 由爱所产生的嫉妒, 占有欲, 仇恨, 在每种文化里在哪一个国度里看
不到?
关于对中国文化的评价, 我所说的´constructive” 是指你在批评时的感情色彩.
在抨击同样一

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: nature tells that creatures in same species can be biologically far apart
: due to many varying factors such as living condition, environment and
: geological differences. from the eyes of monkeys in africa, monkeys living
: in southeast asian behave in a mysterious way. living beings are born
: with such physical differences from day one. so talking about uniqueness
: is much safer that talking about general principles, even at the biological
: or natural level. if you generalize so-called human nature and

b*****y
发帖数: 163
20
i don't know if you are right or not. i don't even know whether my arguement
is right or not. your observation and interpretation are apparently valid.
when we explore the uniqueness of a culture, we actually recognize the
existence and the conserved value of that culture. e.g., you mentioned "love"
and tried to make it as a conceptual abstraction which could be identified
among all types of cultural backgrounds. however, in practice, when you
look closer to the abstraction, it is hardly applica

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: Hehe. I thought you knew better.
: 如果你硬要 emphasize biological and psychological differences among individual
: human beings to an extreme extend, 也不肯承认人类具有的commonalities on a
: macro scale, 你就更加不能把你在这里所体会到的 “unique” experience强扯到中国
: 文化的 “common ground”上去.
: 我并没有说世界上的每一个人在处理自尊心和自卑心理的时候都有我所讲的同样的reacti
: on. Of course their reactions vary. 我只是告诉你这种现象不是在中国文化中所独有
: 的. 就象爱情, 不同文化背景下的人对爱的理解和爱的方式会有不同, 但是爱情的存在,
: 暗恋, 热恋, 失恋, 由爱所产生的嫉妒, 占有欲, 仇恨, 在每种文化里在哪一个国度里看
: 不到?

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q*n
发帖数: 1203
21
no offense.
看了你以前中文发的贴子,觉得用词和立意都和现在很不一样啊?
以前的那个倒是更对我的胃口。
不知道是有什么个人的转变呢,还是我纯粹妄加猜度?

【在 b*****y 的大作中提到】
: i don't know if you are right or not. i don't even know whether my arguement
: is right or not. your observation and interpretation are apparently valid.
: when we explore the uniqueness of a culture, we actually recognize the
: existence and the conserved value of that culture. e.g., you mentioned "love"
: and tried to make it as a conceptual abstraction which could be identified
: among all types of cultural backgrounds. however, in practice, when you
: look closer to the abstraction, it is hardly applica

h*****e
发帖数: 59
22
u two date bah

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: no offense.
: 看了你以前中文发的贴子,觉得用词和立意都和现在很不一样啊?
: 以前的那个倒是更对我的胃口。
: 不知道是有什么个人的转变呢,还是我纯粹妄加猜度?

h*****e
发帖数: 59
23
i wonder what is ur motive to ask this question in the first place.
if u know human nature so well, why dont u take a guess

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: agree... hehe
b*****y
发帖数: 163
24
there are probable transitions, but i think most of them are consistent.
the perspectives may be very different, which makes them look like
two contradictory stands. this is a matter of coordination.

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: no offense.
: 看了你以前中文发的贴子,觉得用词和立意都和现在很不一样啊?
: 以前的那个倒是更对我的胃口。
: 不知道是有什么个人的转变呢,还是我纯粹妄加猜度?

s***n
发帖数: 821
25
I mean these are all too 八卦

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: i wonder what is ur motive to ask this question in the first place.
: if u know human nature so well, why dont u take a guess

a*******y
发帖数: 64
26
which part(s) is (are) the non-八卦?

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: I mean these are all too 八卦
o*****e
发帖数: 435
27
good point.








whole
fun.

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: 还没想睡就考了古,忍不住说两句, 趁夜深人静.
: u need to relax too.
: the "very dark corner and weak point" u mentioned does not uniquely exist
: in Chinese culture. it applies to the mankind at large.
: 其实你所提到的这种现象跟人性有关多于跟中国文化有关. 与生俱来的自尊心虚
: 荣心以及于成长过程中产生的民族自豪感在"自己不如人"的情况下容易使人产生自卑羡慕
: 甚至嫉妒的心理. 在自卑的状态下人自然比较容易敏感和受刺激. 这与哪国文化无关. 如
: 果你说美国人普遍就不这样, 那是因为他们有比较强的优越感.
: 通俗一点讲, 如果我长的很丑, 你却要在我面前展示你的美丽(经意或不经意的). 我自然
: 不舒服. 也许除了不舒服, 我还会说, 现在双眼皮大眼睛不流行了, (我们的)单眼皮才

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