D*****y 发帖数: 5788 | 1 10 耶和华使他们在以色列人面前溃乱。约书亚在基遍大大地杀败他们,追赶他们,在
伯和仑的上坡路击杀他们,直到亚西加和玛基大。
11 他们在以色列人面前逃跑,正在伯和仑下坡的时候,耶和华从天上降大冰雹在他们
身上(冰雹原文作石头),直降到亚西加,打死他们。被冰雹打死的,比以色列人用刀
杀死的还多。
12 当耶和华将亚摩利人交付以色列人的日子,约书亚就祷告耶和华,在以色列人眼前
说,日头阿,你要停在基遍。月亮阿,你要止在亚雅仑谷。
13 于是日头停留,月亮止住,直等国民向敌人报仇。这事岂不是写在雅煞珥书上吗?
日头在天当中停住,不急速下落,约有一日之久。
14 在这日以前,这日以后,耶和华听人的祷告,没有像这日的,是因耶和华为以色列
争战。
时间对于人来说是固定,一天只有24个小时,没有不同。然而,神是时间的主人,在神
没有时间的限制,这点在人来看是无法理解的。但是我们凭着信,因着信,因为神是全
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 2 "但是我们凭着信,因着信,因为神是全能的。" Amen. thanks for the daily post.
【在 D*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 10 耶和华使他们在以色列人面前溃乱。约书亚在基遍大大地杀败他们,追赶他们,在 : 伯和仑的上坡路击杀他们,直到亚西加和玛基大。 : 11 他们在以色列人面前逃跑,正在伯和仑下坡的时候,耶和华从天上降大冰雹在他们 : 身上(冰雹原文作石头),直降到亚西加,打死他们。被冰雹打死的,比以色列人用刀 : 杀死的还多。 : 12 当耶和华将亚摩利人交付以色列人的日子,约书亚就祷告耶和华,在以色列人眼前 : 说,日头阿,你要停在基遍。月亮阿,你要止在亚雅仑谷。 : 13 于是日头停留,月亮止住,直等国民向敌人报仇。这事岂不是写在雅煞珥书上吗? : 日头在天当中停住,不急速下落,约有一日之久。 : 14 在这日以前,这日以后,耶和华听人的祷告,没有像这日的,是因耶和华为以色列
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 3 真是返祖啊
【在 D*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 10 耶和华使他们在以色列人面前溃乱。约书亚在基遍大大地杀败他们,追赶他们,在 : 伯和仑的上坡路击杀他们,直到亚西加和玛基大。 : 11 他们在以色列人面前逃跑,正在伯和仑下坡的时候,耶和华从天上降大冰雹在他们 : 身上(冰雹原文作石头),直降到亚西加,打死他们。被冰雹打死的,比以色列人用刀 : 杀死的还多。 : 12 当耶和华将亚摩利人交付以色列人的日子,约书亚就祷告耶和华,在以色列人眼前 : 说,日头阿,你要停在基遍。月亮阿,你要止在亚雅仑谷。 : 13 于是日头停留,月亮止住,直等国民向敌人报仇。这事岂不是写在雅煞珥书上吗? : 日头在天当中停住,不急速下落,约有一日之久。 : 14 在这日以前,这日以后,耶和华听人的祷告,没有像这日的,是因耶和华为以色列
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 5 so what's your point? I hope by now you understand the limits of human
knowledge.
no one believes light can curve till Einstein, that doesn't mean light didn'
t curve till Einstein.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 太陽繞地球在基督徒中沒有爭議吧?
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 6 你信不信太陽繞地球? 這不難回答吧?
didn'
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so what's your point? I hope by now you understand the limits of human : knowledge. : no one believes light can curve till Einstein, that doesn't mean light didn' : t curve till Einstein.
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 7 她是不会回答的
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你信不信太陽繞地球? 這不難回答吧? : : didn'
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 8 太阳月亮都是为地球服务的,没有地球,那些就是摆设没用的东西
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你信不信太陽繞地球? 這不難回答吧? : : didn'
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 9 賭一個包子, 她今天會回答的。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她是不会回答的
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 10 吃
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 賭一個包子, 她今天會回答的。
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 11 still don't see your point. is it relevent to today's bible study topic?
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你信不信太陽繞地球? 這不難回答吧? : : didn'
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 12
你解釋一下 "日头阿,你要停在基遍。月亮阿,你要止在亚雅仑谷。
13 于是日头停留,月亮止住,直等国民向敌人报仇。
这事岂不是写在雅煞珥书上吗?
日头在天当中停住,不急速下落,约有一日之久。"
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : still don't see your point. is it relevent to today's bible study topic?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 13 what's to be explained? The bible documented an event (when/where/what/why/
who) and didn't document "how" becuause the mechanics is beyond the limit of
our current knowledge set (let alone those thousands of years ago) and IMHO
, irrelevant to the message.
If you have to figure out the "how" (the mechanics) for everything,or have
the "won't believe it till I see it" mindset, you shall start questioning/
challenging almost everything you believe -- starting from the evolution
hypothesis.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 你解釋一下 "日头阿,你要停在基遍。月亮阿,你要止在亚雅仑谷。 : 13 于是日头停留,月亮止住,直等国民向敌人报仇。 : 这事岂不是写在雅煞珥书上吗? : 日头在天当中停住,不急速下落,约有一日之久。"
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o**1 发帖数: 6383 | 14 根据这个想法,任何荒谬的事都是可信的。
西游记记载了猴子从石头里蹦出来,但是没有记载为什么,因为这个超出了你的小脑瓜
的知识和理解力。但是猴子从石头里蹦出来这个是可信的。
of
IMHO
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's to be explained? The bible documented an event (when/where/what/why/ : who) and didn't document "how" becuause the mechanics is beyond the limit of : our current knowledge set (let alone those thousands of years ago) and IMHO : , irrelevant to the message. : If you have to figure out the "how" (the mechanics) for everything,or have : the "won't believe it till I see it" mindset, you shall start questioning/ : challenging almost everything you believe -- starting from the evolution : hypothesis.
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 15 明明說了 how, 就是讓太陽停住。 這表示寫聖經的人以為是太陽繞地的。
你如果以為上帝給你腦袋, 也許她在暗示你要動動腦。
of
IMHO
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's to be explained? The bible documented an event (when/where/what/why/ : who) and didn't document "how" becuause the mechanics is beyond the limit of : our current knowledge set (let alone those thousands of years ago) and IMHO : , irrelevant to the message. : If you have to figure out the "how" (the mechanics) for everything,or have : the "won't believe it till I see it" mindset, you shall start questioning/ : challenging almost everything you believe -- starting from the evolution : hypothesis.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 16 First, I didn't see the "How" -- it only described the result.
"這表示寫聖經的人以為是太陽繞地的。" that's YOUR own 以為.
also, measure of movements is always relative to the frame of reference, we
often change the measure/frame of reference to present the problem in a
simple/easier/intuitive framework to describe/solve. You shall 動動腦 and
take some physics class.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 明明說了 how, 就是讓太陽停住。 這表示寫聖經的人以為是太陽繞地的。 : 你如果以為上帝給你腦袋, 也許她在暗示你要動動腦。 : : of : IMHO
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 17 這麼說你同意太陽繞地了?
你要太陽停在某地, 你應該命令太陽還是命令地球?
來, 動腦我們看看。
we
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, I didn't see the "How" -- it only described the result. : "這表示寫聖經的人以為是太陽繞地的。" that's YOUR own 以為. : also, measure of movements is always relative to the frame of reference, we : often change the measure/frame of reference to present the problem in a : simple/easier/intuitive framework to describe/solve. You shall 動動腦 and : take some physics class.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 18
what's your frame of reference?
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 這麼說你同意太陽繞地了? : 你要太陽停在某地, 你應該命令太陽還是命令地球? : 來, 動腦我們看看。 : : we
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 19 whichever! 就用你的好了, 你是不是用地球當參考點?
那你得命令整個宇宙停下來, 一天別轉, 對吧?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : what's your frame of reference?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 20 what's your point?
If you are trying to figure out the "how" part (as your question indicates),
I have already answered in the previous post.
As to how the event is described, it is documented in the bible.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : whichever! 就用你的好了, 你是不是用地球當參考點? : 那你得命令整個宇宙停下來, 一天別轉, 對吧?
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 21 宁可废话千遍,也不肯一句了事
),
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's your point? : If you are trying to figure out the "how" part (as your question indicates), : I have already answered in the previous post. : As to how the event is described, it is documented in the bible.
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 22 你怎么还没有受洗?
【在 G******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 宁可废话千遍,也不肯一句了事 : : ),
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 23 不得不承認 GetThere 的評語還是很正確的。
),
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's your point? : If you are trying to figure out the "how" part (as your question indicates), : I have already answered in the previous post. : As to how the event is described, it is documented in the bible.
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 24 上来休闲一下,不要搞得这么严肃 :)
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你怎么还没有受洗?
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 25 我是说你早上洗澡了么?我一般是洗澡前蹲厕所时候发发贴。
【在 G******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上来休闲一下,不要搞得这么严肃 :)
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 26 废话千遍 are for these 废话 questions.
一句了事: Justification by Faith.
【在 G******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 宁可废话千遍,也不肯一句了事 : : ),
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 27 你看,这就是非常完美的答案
(1)杀成屠婴道德吗?-- 道德
为啥?-- Faith
(2) 地球6千年吗?-- 是
为啥? -- Faith
(3)兔子反刍吗?蟋蟀4条腿吗?蛇吃土吗?-- 是
为啥? -- Faith
(4) 基督教是迷信吗?-- 不是
为啥?-- Faith
、、、、、、
这就是圣经里的智慧:
提多书
1:9 坚守所教真实的道理,就能将纯正的教训劝化人。又能把争辩的人驳倒了。
路加福音
21:14 所以你们当立定心意,不要豫先思想怎样分诉。
21:15 因为我必赐你们口才智慧,是你们一切敌人所敌不住,驳不倒的
你一旦用人的智慧人的知识来辩护神,你就落入了撒旦的陷阱。这就是自以为是的基督
徒在这里犯的自大的错误。
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 废话千遍 are for these 废话 questions. : 一句了事: Justification by Faith.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 28 do you understand the definition of "faith" in Bible? If so, why are you wasting your time here with these nonsense questions?
【在 G******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你看,这就是非常完美的答案 : (1)杀成屠婴道德吗?-- 道德 : 为啥?-- Faith : (2) 地球6千年吗?-- 是 : 为啥? -- Faith : (3)兔子反刍吗?蟋蟀4条腿吗?蛇吃土吗?-- 是 : 为啥? -- Faith : (4) 基督教是迷信吗?-- 不是 : 为啥?-- Faith : 、、、、、、
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 29 那些問題不是 nonsense, 是你不能回答。
wasting your time here with these nonsense questions?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you understand the definition of "faith" in Bible? If so, why are you wasting your time here with these nonsense questions?
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 30 这些问题不是nonsense,but your answers are.
正常人都会问这些问题。
wasting your time here with these nonsense questions?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you understand the definition of "faith" in Bible? If so, why are you wasting your time here with these nonsense questions?
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 31 成交,你输定了
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 賭一個包子, 她今天會回答的。
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 32 iPad?
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是说你早上洗澡了么?我一般是洗澡前蹲厕所时候发发贴。
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 33 引经据典废话千遍,一敲起来就是,"空,空"
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 废话千遍 are for these 废话 questions. : 一句了事: Justification by Faith.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 34 I did answer your questions -- IMHO, you can't prove/disprove the Bible or
replace faith with human knowledge. As far as I can see, that's what you
have been trying in this forum with all your questions.
Tell me if you understand the following verses. Did Jesus answer 尼 哥 底 母
's questions?
<< 約 翰 福 音 3 >> |
l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 35 "引经据典"--that's my goal. unfortunately I'm not as familiar with bible
verses as some others here.
"废话千遍" if you read and recognize these are bible verses, I have
accomplished my goal.
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 引经据典废话千遍,一敲起来就是,"空,空"
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 36 无用功做上万遍也还是无用功,在你这种心态还要放上好笑二字,
顺便问一下这个版有一个常驻非基圣经是没翻过几遍的么?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "引经据典"--that's my goal. unfortunately I'm not as familiar with bible : verses as some others here. : "废话千遍" if you read and recognize these are bible verses, I have : accomplished my goal.
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 37 真神,一个包子
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I did answer your questions -- IMHO, you can't prove/disprove the Bible or : replace faith with human knowledge. As far as I can see, that's what you : have been trying in this forum with all your questions. : Tell me if you understand the following verses. Did Jesus answer 尼 哥 底 母 : 's questions? : << 約 翰 福 音 3 >>
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 38 [一年读经]posts are not only for these "常驻非基".
IMHO, 翻过几遍 doesn't mean understand. Otherwise why you won't be "常驻非基
".
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 39 。。。。。。你的回复基本还真可以用"nonsense"来概括,
你嘟囔些啥你自己都知道?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : [一年读经]posts are not only for these "常驻非基". : IMHO, 翻过几遍 doesn't mean understand. Otherwise why you won't be "常驻非基 : ". : 在 leonana (leonany) 的大作中提到: 】
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 40 聖經就你懂, 非基都不懂, 懂了一定信, 對吧?
什麼邏輯?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : [一年读经]posts are not only for these "常驻非基". : IMHO, 翻过几遍 doesn't mean understand. Otherwise why you won't be "常驻非基 : ". : 在 leonana (leonany) 的大作中提到: 】
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 41 littletshirt, 你連回答太陽是繞地球的都不敢回答,
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 42 皮球逻辑,皮厚中空
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 聖經就你懂, 非基都不懂, 懂了一定信, 對吧? : 什麼邏輯?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 43
that's your logic/reasoning, not mine.
Proverbs 9:10 "敬 畏 耶 和 华 , 是 智 慧 的 开 端 。 认 识 至 圣 者 , 便
是 聪 明 。 "
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 聖經就你懂, 非基都不懂, 懂了一定信, 對吧? : 什麼邏輯?
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 44 是的, 聖經是這麼說的, So? 任何一本書都必須信嗎?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : that's your logic/reasoning, not mine. : Proverbs 9:10 "敬 畏 耶 和 华 , 是 智 慧 的 开 端 。 认 识 至 圣 者 , 便 : 是 聪 明 。 "
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 45 1 太陽是繞地球? -- You didn't specify your reference frame in your question.
2 不敢回答 -- I don't want to waste time on questions unrelated to faith/
belief, or attempts to disprove faith with "science". IMHO, they belong two
different domains. Ask yourself whether you are taking "science" as granted
and following it blindly.
3 害我又輸一個包子 -- learn to face the consequences of your own action.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : littletshirt, 你連回答太陽是繞地球的都不敢回答, : 害我又輸一個包子, 太過分了。
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 46 整個問題就是應該以什麼為參考點才合理, 你還問我用哪個參考點?
question.
two
granted
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1 太陽是繞地球? -- You didn't specify your reference frame in your question. : 2 不敢回答 -- I don't want to waste time on questions unrelated to faith/ : belief, or attempts to disprove faith with "science". IMHO, they belong two : different domains. Ask yourself whether you are taking "science" as granted : and following it blindly. : 3 害我又輸一個包子 -- learn to face the consequences of your own action.
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 47 胡扯,应该是"敬畏耶和华 ,是迷信的开端 。 认识至圣者 , 不要智慧只要信就罢
了 。 "
拿个你们祖宗亚当的例子,那厮是吃了分辨是非的果子才有了智慧,敬畏认识耶和华的
时候连眼目都没明亮
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1 太陽是繞地球? -- You didn't specify your reference frame in your question. : 2 不敢回答 -- I don't want to waste time on questions unrelated to faith/ : belief, or attempts to disprove faith with "science". IMHO, they belong two : different domains. Ask yourself whether you are taking "science" as granted : and following it blindly. : 3 害我又輸一個包子 -- learn to face the consequences of your own action.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 48
Very good point. Do we believe every book we read?
For example, I don't believe the "Evolution Theroy" a) w/o a convincing proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis and b) w/o experiencing it myself. Do you?
Personally, bible would just be another book if not for the implication of belief in daily life and fellowships in church, which makes the words in the Bible alive.
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是的, 聖經是這麼說的, So? 任何一本書都必須信嗎?
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 49 那你每天蒙头抹油了没有啊?
proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis
and b) w/o experiencing it myself. Do you?
belief in daily life and fellowships in church,
which makes the words in the Bible alive.
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Very good point. Do we believe every book we read? : For example, I don't believe the "Evolution Theroy" a) w/o a convincing proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis and b) w/o experiencing it myself. Do you? : Personally, bible would just be another book if not for the implication of belief in daily life and fellowships in church, which makes the words in the Bible alive.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 50 "蒙头抹油" -- have you learned anything else from the your bible "reading"?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那你每天蒙头抹油了没有啊? : : proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis : and b) w/o experiencing it myself. Do you? : belief in daily life and fellowships in church, : which makes the words in the Bible alive.
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 51 整本圣经有什么老祖宗没提到而值得学习的? 愚信么?那个不是学到的
?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "蒙头抹油" -- have you learned anything else from the your bible "reading"?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 52 so you disprove Bible simply because you believe some of its teaching are
also covered in 老祖宗's teaching? is that a good excuse to mock the
Christian belief? BTW, are you practicing 老祖宗's teaching (the virtues)
yourself?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 整本圣经有什么老祖宗没提到而值得学习的? 愚信么?那个不是学到的 : : ?
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o**1 发帖数: 6383 | 53 你practice圣经的教导了吗?
蒙头抹油割包皮
杀婴屠城吃猪肉
你按圣经做到了多少?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so you disprove Bible simply because you believe some of its teaching are : also covered in 老祖宗's teaching? is that a good excuse to mock the : Christian belief? BTW, are you practicing 老祖宗's teaching (the virtues) : yourself?
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 54 好奇一下你这个结论怎么下出来的?
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so you disprove Bible simply because you believe some of its teaching are : also covered in 老祖宗's teaching? is that a good excuse to mock the : Christian belief? BTW, are you practicing 老祖宗's teaching (the virtues) : yourself?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 55 "整本圣经有什么老祖宗没提到而值得学习的?" -- sorry if I misinterpreted your
question. What's your point then?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好奇一下你这个结论怎么下出来的?
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 56 沒錯, 不必完全相信任何一本書。
進化論可以解釋許多現象, 有許多證據支持,
你如果看過一本正經進化論書籍就知道了
(我知道你本科生物, 但是你還是沒讀過進化論,
否則不會說不出一本書)
聖經有什麼書以外的證據?
你把一本書有沒有影響力跟書裡講得真不真搞混了,
想想"轉法輪" 或 "摩門經" 就知道了。
proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis and b) w/o experiencing it myself.
Do you?
belief in daily life and fellowships in church, which makes the words in
the Bible alive.
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "整本圣经有什么老祖宗没提到而值得学习的?" -- sorry if I misinterpreted your : question. What's your point then?
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 57 好奇一下你的思维离不开信和信仰么?
your
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "整本圣经有什么老祖宗没提到而值得学习的?" -- sorry if I misinterpreted your : question. What's your point then?
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 58
i have read 進化論書籍 along with many other bio/sciecne books.not aware of any
proof of "random" mutataion in the nature, or any practical application of
the theory. Can you post your findings from "正經進化論書籍"?
you treat Bible as a subject of research, I take it a guideline of way of
life. I guess the 證據s (other than Bible itself) would be personal
experiences and the fellowships within the church.
why bother?
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 沒錯, 不必完全相信任何一本書。 : 進化論可以解釋許多現象, 有許多證據支持, : 你如果看過一本正經進化論書籍就知道了 : (我知道你本科生物, 但是你還是沒讀過進化論, : 否則不會說不出一本書) : 聖經有什麼書以外的證據? : 你把一本書有沒有影響力跟書裡講得真不真搞混了, : 想想"轉法輪" 或 "摩門經" 就知道了。 : : proof of the "random mutation" hypothesis and b) w/o experiencing it myself.
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 59 of course not.. aren't we in the TrustInJesus 讨论区?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好奇一下你的思维离不开信和信仰么? : : your
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 60 说实话,不像
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : of course not.. aren't we in the TrustInJesus 讨论区?
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