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发帖数: 38403 | 1 Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
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Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
magazine of the American Geological Institute, by Steven Newton of the
National Center for Science Education – an organisation whose mission is to
ensure that evolution continues to be taught in US schools.
Newton describes the way in which so-called "Young Earth" creationist
geologists – who sometimes hold advanced degrees in geology despite
believing that the planet Earth is only a few thousand years old – work
within the mainstream US geology scene. The creationists will attend
conferences, organise field trips, present papers and give lectures. They
will often use the language and refer to the theories generally accepted by
geologists, even going so far occasionally as to refer to timespans in the
millions or billions of years: though if pressed they will admit that they
personally don't believe that the planet has existed for anything like so
long.
According to Newton, these exercises serve two purposes. They allow the
creationists to claim in frequent press releases and other publicity
materials that their ideas are gaining acceptance in the scientific
community, and they allow doubt to be subtly cast on the theories generally
accepted for why and how given rock formations etc have come to be. Often an
alternative view will be presented that the given formation might instead
have come about due to a lengthy immersion in water at some time in the
recent (less than 10,000 years ago) past: but no specific mention of Noah or
the Flood will be made.
Newton describes a field trip led by several creationists as an excursion
organised at last year's meeting of the Geological Society of America. The
creationists presented their credentials in such a way as to obscure their
beliefs, and while many hints were dropped that perhaps the geology visited
might result from something very like the Flood, no overt mention of Young
Earth ideas was ever made. The preferred science-friendly phrase for the
Flood employed by the creationists is "massive marine transgression",
apparently: one of the trip leaders is known to believe that this can
explain the formation of the Grand Canyon.
Newton comments:
Creationists will continue to promote Flood Geology and their radical
interpretation of Grand Canyon strata because a young Earth is critical to
their rejection of evolution. As in Field trip 409, observations are often
made that are indistinguishable from standard geology, but young-Earth
conclusions drawn from them are unwarranted.
Newton also notes that mainstream scientists criticising the creationists
tended to come off as rude and confrontational, in sharp contrast to the god
-botherers' excellent manners and polished conduct. He suggests that in this
respect if no other, proper scientists could learn something from the
infiltrators, and he cautions against any move to ban the creationist pseudo
-geologists from conferences and meetings.
Let a thousand flowers bloom, weeds and all. The best ideas from the
meetings are further subjected to peer review in journals, which is where
theories are built; conferences are more freeform. Geology will not suffer
if creationists participate in our meetings, but the public relations damage
from the misperception that we are systematically hostile to any view —
especially religious views — is real.
You can read the full Earth article here. ®
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/creationists_infiltrate | l**********t
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"Geology will not suffer if creationists participate in our meetings, public
relations damagefrom the misperception that we are systematically hostile
to any view — especially religious views — is real."
Lessons to be learned by "scientists". | l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 3 你真是很可怜
public
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: thanks for sharing.
: "Geology will not suffer if creationists participate in our meetings, public
: relations damagefrom the misperception that we are systematically hostile
: to any view — especially religious views — is real."
: Lessons to be learned by "scientists".
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【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
: By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
: Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
: Free whitepaper – Physical Security in Mission Critical Facilities
: Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
: theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
: geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
: for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
: The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
: mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
| j********1
发帖数: 2073 | 5 Thanks for sharing
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
: By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
: Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
: Free whitepaper – Physical Security in Mission Critical Facilities
: Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
: theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
: geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
: for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
: The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
: mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
| m****u
发帖数: 1689 | 6 Thanks for sharing
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
: By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
: Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
: Free whitepaper – Physical Security in Mission Critical Facilities
: Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
: theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
: geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
: for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
: The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
: mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
| w*********r
发帖数: 3382 | 7 that's the power of cherry picking and selective alexia
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你真是很可怜
:
: public
| B******y
发帖数: 2255 | 8 求真便不能靠标签来求，要靠内容吧。
今天凡是贴上creationist的标签，便表示是愚昧或少智，这就是为什么基督徒对很多
科学的结论存疑。因为有很多科学结论是以信仰的方式被树立的，以信仰的方式被求证
的。至少我们大量看到创造论的东西不被接受，被贴上标签。
所以人在刊物上看不到创造论的东西，当然是进化论成立了。因为创造论已经看不到证
据了，被标签了雪藏了。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
: By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
: Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
: Free whitepaper – Physical Security in Mission Critical Facilities
: Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
: theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
: geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
: for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
: The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
: mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
| l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 9 愚昧是因为这个吧
【在 B******y 的大作中提到】
: 求真便不能靠标签来求，要靠内容吧。
: 今天凡是贴上creationist的标签，便表示是愚昧或少智，这就是为什么基督徒对很多
: 科学的结论存疑。因为有很多科学结论是以信仰的方式被树立的，以信仰的方式被求证
: 的。至少我们大量看到创造论的东西不被接受，被贴上标签。
: 所以人在刊物上看不到创造论的东西，当然是进化论成立了。因为创造论已经看不到证
: 据了，被标签了雪藏了。
| l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 10 Yup, welcome back
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: that's the power of cherry picking and selective alexia
| w*********r
发帖数: 3382 | 11 never been away
just hidden in the dark trembling with despite
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Yup, welcome back
| l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 12 lol
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: never been away
: just hidden in the dark trembling with despite
| f*******0
发帖数: 1775 | 13 Thanks for sharing
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Grand Canyon? Caused by Noah's Flood, that
: By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
: Posted in Science, 14th June 2011 10:35 GMT
: Free whitepaper – Physical Security in Mission Critical Facilities
: Creationists are infiltrating US geology circles in an attempt to push the
: theory that the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that recognised
: geological phenomena which appear to contradict this idea can be accounted
: for by Noah's Flood and similar Bible stories.
: The attempt by creationist "scientists" to present themselves as part of
: mainstream US geology is described in the July edition of Earth, the
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