R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 1 John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know hi
s master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that
I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
Jesus said to his disciples that they are friends of him, instead of servant
s. I feel this verse is related to local church's doctrine "God became man
that man might become God ". I appreciate that Mr. windking dares to hold
this doctrine here, knowing that the "mainline" (mostly Calvinists) Christia
ns treat this as heresy. This argument of local church standpoint is relat
ed to the next verse I learned:
John 15:18 "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do
not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is wh
y the world hates you.
Does it feel good to be hated by other people if that
means you are standing with God? We are talking about homosexuality these
days. Are the gays and lesbians be hated by the world as well?
In most case, we don't know whether we are speaking for God. Of course, eve
ryone can claim he is defending God. When you say I am a anti-God, I will s
ay you are a demon-worshiper. OK, we read this verse:
John 15:17 This is my command: Love each other. | m****a 发帖数: 9485 | 2
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人有潜力,可以在神的帮助下变得像神,我们教会跟召会的看法一致。我至今记得读过
倪柝生弟兄的书,我认为跟圣经的教导是吻合的。这里是圣经的一些经文,指明了这样
的可能是真切的。
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_4058_180621.html
值得注意的是,人变成神--不是人成了天父,需要别人崇拜,也不是人变成了耶稣,成
了救主,如果这样理解就不对了,而是说人可以在神的帮助下,不犯罪,完全圣洁。很
多人否认这样的可能性,我认为这是小看了耶稣救恩的大能,以及对神的儿女的神性的
轻视。当然,这个过程可能是漫长的,今生不够,还要加上千禧年的时间,才是最后的
大审判。
说需要神的帮助,是说要跟神订立新约。订立新约在千禧年期间还会继续面向得救的--
-第一次复活的人。也有很多在第一次复活的人不愿意订立新约的,他们将是承受月亮
般荣耀的,就是中荣的人,但他们还是信了耶稣的赎价,接受了神仁慈的白白的礼物。
【在 R*o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know hi : s master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that : I learned from my Father I have made known to you. : Jesus said to his disciples that they are friends of him, instead of servant : s. I feel this verse is related to local church's doctrine "God became man : that man might become God ". I appreciate that Mr. windking dares to hold : this doctrine here, knowing that the "mainline" (mostly Calvinists) Christia : ns treat this as heresy. This argument of local church standpoint is relat : ed to the next verse I learned: : John 15:18 "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19
| R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 3 I like this doctrine from the local church because ancient Chinese also beli
eved 天人合一
【在 m****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : hi : that : servant : man : hold : Christia : relat : 19 : 人有潜力,可以在神的帮助下变得像神,我们教会跟召会的看法一致。我至今记得读过
| m****a 发帖数: 9485 | 4
beli
圣经也讲天人合一,天--其实就是天父。很多合一的章节都是教导人可以跟神合一--目
标心意行动上的合一。耶稣是中保,跟耶稣联合,就是跟天父联合了。比如约翰福音的很
多经节
14:20到那日,你们就知道我在父里面,你们在我里面,我也在你们里面。
15:5 我是葡萄树,你们是枝子。常在我里面的,我也常在他里面,这人就多结果子。
因为离了我,你们就不能作什么。
17:20-23我不但为这些人祈求,也为那些因他们的话信我的人祈求。
21使他们都合而为一。正如你父在我里面,我在你里面,使他们也在我们里面。叫世人
可以信你差了我来。
22你所赐给我的荣耀,我已赐给他们,使他们合而为一,像我们合而为一。
23我在他们里面,你在我里面,使他们完完全全的合而为一。叫世人知道你差了我来,
也知道你爱他们如同爱我一样。
【在 R*o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I like this doctrine from the local church because ancient Chinese also beli : eved 天人合一
| p**********r 发帖数: 3581 | 5 找到答案了吗?就哦哦smith有多少个未成年老婆?
我告诉你吧,7个不到18岁。当然他也娶了四个50多岁的老婆。
还有就是,他娶的老婆里有多少老公当时还活着的?
11个。
【在 m****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : beli : 圣经也讲天人合一,天--其实就是天父。很多合一的章节都是教导人可以跟神合一--目 : 标心意行动上的合一。耶稣是中保,跟耶稣联合,就是跟天父联合了。比如约翰福音的很 : 多经节 : 14:20到那日,你们就知道我在父里面,你们在我里面,我也在你们里面。 : 15:5 我是葡萄树,你们是枝子。常在我里面的,我也常在他里面,这人就多结果子。 : 因为离了我,你们就不能作什么。 : 17:20-23我不但为这些人祈求,也为那些因他们的话信我的人祈求。 : 21使他们都合而为一。正如你父在我里面,我在你里面,使他们也在我们里面。叫世人
| R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 6 If I would write a gospel for Joseph Smith, I would delete all of these and
just show people the story before his death.
【在 p**********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 找到答案了吗?就哦哦smith有多少个未成年老婆? : 我告诉你吧,7个不到18岁。当然他也娶了四个50多岁的老婆。 : 还有就是,他娶的老婆里有多少老公当时还活着的? : 11个。
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